Interesting Nugget from D1baseball.com on Friday
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How will he be able to play both baseball and basketball? Basketball could in theory go til almost April.
Guys, CM isn't playing college baseball. He was listed on perfect games database as an Iowa commit but it doesn't specify what sport. Should say basketball.
I am not sure why they do that but I have seen it with other athletes/sports as well. Think it simply has to do with him being a kid that played HS baseball and committed O play a college sport, so they include them.
Not a baseball player at the next level.
I am not sure why they do that but I have seen it with other athletes/sports as well. Think it simply has to do with him being a kid that played HS baseball and committed O play a college sport, so they include them.
Not a baseball player at the next level.
It can be done. For example, Pat Connaughton played both baseball and basketball at Notre Dame and was drafted in each sport. If there is any truth to this he'd likely miss the first couple of months while basketball played on.
I do know that both Connor and Fran attended coach Heller's introductory press conference. And I have also seen them both at Bank Field a number of times over the last couple of seasons as they are baseball fans. Not saying its true, but I do know he was considered a prospect and is athletic enough to do it if he wants. If he has said that he wanted to play, I'm sure there have discussions between offices on how to make it happen. Again, not saying its true, but if he is good enough and can fill out a roster spot without taking any money...why not?
I spoke with Coach Heller and he confirmed Connor IS going to be a part of the Iowa Baseball team when the basketball season ends.
I spoke with Connor at the Perfect Game tournament at Banks Field last weekend and he did say he was going to play baseball at U of I.
I would find this to be a very curious move since baseball starts playing games in late February and would be a month into the season before Connor could even think about joining the team. He would miss fall baseball every year. And wouldn't take part in the summer leagues that many baseball players take part in. What would be the point of using a roster spot on a kid that would be with the team for about 6 weeks every year?
The coaches must see enough talent to sacrifice the time away from baseball. He'd be able to participate in the majority, if not all, of fall baseball. Also, he likely could play in the Iowa Valley League during the summer rather than the Northwoods, Prospect, etc. leagues. Those leagues are great but if your future isn't in baseball it's not always worth the grind during the summer.
Serious question, does the basketball team not have their own stuff going on during the summer and fall? Can he really do both without making either suffer? I'm all for it if he can. I know we've had football players do both but don't know that I've ever seen it with basketball.
Can he make it work? I'm not sure. There are a few examples, though. Pat Connaughton did it at a very high level for Notre Dame. Marcus Heemstra (originally from Rock Valley) played both at South Dakota State. If he ends up playing both it's sure not going to be easy.
Because they wouldn't use up one of the limited roster spots on someone who has played very little baseball and isn't a prospect
Yes. I believe he is just stirring the pot and making crap up just for the hell of it.
You are a baseball guy. Think it through.
35 roster spots.
.279 hitter.
135 CAREER at bats.
Big time basketball prospect.
How many basketball/baseball players at the D1 level do you ever recall playing?
Where and when is he going to get AB's over the next 2 years? He isn't going to be playing outside of HS season. Even the best athletes in the world that try baseball don't succeed very often unless they focus solely on that. No way.
The roster limitation alone would say there is no way. Particularly with what Rick has been doing on the recruiting trail.
Ain't happening. It's just a troll job.
Heemstra is a pitcher. 6'9 210lbs. He had 8 starts in 4 years of basketball. Much easier to do for a pitcher.
Connaughton is a an elite athlete and was drafted in HS and had baseball offers at N Carolina and other big baseball programs.
I see nothing from CM that says he is a great baseball player worthy of being able to play baseball at the next level.
Let's put this to bed.
35 roster spots. Connor wouldn't be on scholarship, meaning they could him after one day of practice.
.279 hitter. Has he even played two years of varsity? I'm not going to put much stock in his average given his young age.
Look, I trust port's word. I agree with you and 3boysmom, though, that it would be incredibly difficult for him to play both sports and there are few who've done so. And I agree with your arguments for him not playing outside of my aforementioned reasons. 2017 is still two years away. Sit tight and relax.
.279 hitter. Has he even played two years of varsity? I'm not going to put much stock in his average given his young age.
Look, I trust port's word. I agree with you and 3boysmom, though, that it would be incredibly difficult for him to play both sports and there are few who've done so. And I agree with your arguments for him not playing outside of my aforementioned reasons. 2017 is still two years away. Sit tight and relax.
It's been many years since I was involved enough to know all the rules but my understanding was that you can only have 35 players listed on your roster starting with the first game. and I thought only around 27 or so can be on scholarship.
With these ridiculous limitations, it makes it very difficult to manage a roster and coaches can't afford to take chances on guys.
Isn't the 35 roster spots a hard limit? My understanding is there are 27 spots that can get scholarship dollars and 35 total including walk ons.
35 is the hard limit, yes. My point is that the remaining eight are walkons. If you look at the current roster on the website there are forty-five players listed. There are cuts made every year and just because you commit and are on campus in the fall there is no guarantee you'll make the roster if you're not on scholarship.
My point is that CM may intend to play baseball the fact he won't be on scholarship means there is no guarantee he'll play because his scholarship will be a basketball scholarship.
Agreed. If this is incorrect, then I would be more inclined to MAYBE believe this rumor has a little bit of legs but still highly doubt.
These crazy limitations have done so much harm to the game. Programs used to have fall tryouts and let as many as 40 or 50 players practice or be a part of the program. Once in a while keep a handful of kids around to practice year round and occassionally one would blossom and make the travel team and in a few occasions become a contributor or even a star.
Title IX has all but gutted baseball and denied opportunities for thousands of boys that would simply be happy to "be on the team" but can't be because they simply aren't allowed.
Actually I'd argue these roster limitations have benefited the college game by leveling the playing field, especially for northern teams.
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Ah, I got ya. Then I think we could be on the same page. What he intends to do and what he would like to do could be very different from what actually happens.
Ah, I got ya. Then I think we could be on the same page. What he intends to do and what he would like to do could be very different from what actually happens.
That is a great point. Kind of like the reduction to 85 in football that leveled the field and kept the powers from stock piling players just to keep them.
It has destroyed alot of kids dreams though
It is still 2 years away, and who knows what will happen between now and then, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that at this moment in time, CM intends on playing baseball at the U of I. The logistics of how that works... I do not know, that is a discussion for Connor, Fran and coach Heller. I have talked face to face with two of those people and the intention is there.
