Ok, since you disagree, but refused to answer the question, I will ask it even more plainly: Why would one refuse to follow her simple request? Because it is definitionally wrong?
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Ok, since you disagree, but refused to answer the question, I will ask it even more plainly: Why would one refuse to follow her simple request? Because it is definitionally wrong?
Because your nature should make having sex with a woman a gimme. If you truly see him as a woman, then how would your instinct not gravitate towards having sex with Jenner?
If you say yes, you're showing homosexual tendencies because he still has a penis and a grandpas voice. If you say no, then you don't actually respect him as a woman.
Jesus, you aren't even intelligent enough to understand my questions, you failed a, b, and c.
I suspect most people are simply tired of him being an attention whore. The 20/20 interview. The Vanity Fair photo shoot. The 8-part tv documentary series. The Arthur Ashe Courage Award. And so on and so on.
I for one am naturally averse to just about anything related to the entire Jenner/Kardashian clan of nitwits.
Because they don't have to, just like he doesn't have to accept he was born a man. The door swings both ways. Are they wrong by calling him a him? Is it anatomically incorrect? Is it a genetic mistake to say that?
You're right it's a simple request, which is simply deniable.
No, you're a spoiled kid who doesn't like something if it doesn't go your way. Make no mistake Iowa, your game is easy to see, and easier to ignore.
Of course they don't have to. Jesus, who here was saying otherwise? You are just arguing with an imaginary person you try to put in my place.
Seriously, go back and read your answers to my questions. I am always amazed by your, because you are a real person, and people on HROT apparently know who you are and you still insist on posting your drivel...knowing that they see you in the real world.
There you go again, your question was answered and because princess IowaHawk didn't like the answer, she pretends she didn't read it.
You asked why would one refuse the request to call him a her. I answered it, youre pouting because you don't like the answer. I run the show here Iowa. Anytime you talk to me, you're talking because I allow it.
Because I'm not afraid to show my true thoughts on things. This statement from you right here, shows that you are a dishonest person who feels the need to play PC over being honest about ones own thoughts.
You've lived a closeted life. So many clues and so much proof of this from you. Three words, you are afraid. Simple as that.
No, you didn't. Saying, "because they don't have to," is not an answer. "Why did the chicken cross the road," "well, because he was physically able to," doesn't make sense. Are you taking that a step further and saying that they do it because they are oppositional defiant? Someone asks them to, but because they can do the opposite they will?
I already asked if it was because of definitional terms, which you didn't respond to.
Yes, I did. I even explained why they would refuse. He is not a she, he is a he, period. Like mentioned before the lady who claimed to be black, was in fact NOT black at all. So she will not be called black, and YES, people will refuse to lie to her for her.
Same with Caitlyn, they will not lie about who he is, because he simply requests it. It's obvious that the system has broken you down into an almost programmed state of insanity. You're choosing to adhere to illusion, rather than reality. Take the red pill next time.
And I asked you specifically, here I will repeat it:
I will ask it even more plainly: Why would one refuse to follow her simple request? Because it is definitionally wrong?
If that is the reason, are you claiming these people refuse to call people the definitionally wrong term, not just Caitlyn? So they refuse to call this person African American?:
They refuse to call this person Mexican, or even Hispanic?:
I think this idea that AT has concocted to be quite humorous. That people are walking around thinking/saying, I will not call them that because it is a lie, and I don't lie, therefore I won't say it. Nuh uh, no way, not me, I ain't lying.
Well I hope they do refuse, because Idris Elba is from England and Benicio can't be called Mexican, because he is Puerto Rican. You can call him Hispanic though, that fits.And I asked you specifically, here I will repeat it:
I will ask it even more plainly: Why would one refuse to follow her simple request? Because it is definitionally wrong?
If that is the reason, are you claiming these people refuse to call people the definitionally wrong term, not just Caitlyn? So they refuse to call this person African American?:
They refuse to call this person Mexican, or even Hispanic?:
Try better examples next time.
You do? Why? It's no different than someone trying to tell you an orange is purple. Or that an orange is an apple, because the orange identifies with being an apple. The base reason for that, is because it's a lie. Subliminally understood or not, calling something for what it is not, is a lie. The reasonable response is to refuse to call if that, because it is definitively wrong, therefore false, and you guessed it,....a lie.
Ok, do this slowly now:
Are you claiming people will refuse to call an apple an orange....because it is a lie? THAT is the reason why someone would refuse to do so?
I'm beginning to think you Can't Understand Normal Thinking. Let's make this easy for you Patrick....
A Lie is a purposeful or intentional or knowingly inaccurate statement. So what do you think? Do you believe that someone would refuse to allow someone to convince them that they should call an apple an orange, knowing that doing so is inaccurate? Please tell me you understand the concept...
Take your time, as I know your asbergers kicks in and you typically have tantrums when something doesn't go your way.
Let me ask this another way:
Did you care whether Dolezal was black or not before it came out? If you had met her on the street, what do you think you would have labeled her as? Does it matter?
Same goes for Caitlyn, are you really saying that this person is definitively a man as you walk past it?
If you couldn't tell when walking past, why do you care what you call her/he/it?
If you don't think simple descriptive definitional terms like male/female or black/white are different than calling someone "Captain Kangaroo" I'm not sure what to tell you.
Yeah I agree. It might be wacky to want to be called captain kangaroo but to say I'm black when I'm white or that I'm a girl when I have a dick is bat shit crazy.
So you'd walk past the person pictured above and immediately go, "yep, thats a dude!" Of course you wouldn't.
you are losing this argument badly. so you resort to an attack on his intelligence...the clarion call of losers everywhere.
this is a red herring and should not be a litmus test for whether one is a male or female. people are deceptive all the time, they are called cross dressers. Some dude dressing up as a female is still a damned man. This question of yours is not persuasive, at all.
Because you are missing/ignoring/not understanding the point. If you meet someone in a quick-exchange type setting, what are you likely to call them? By their general descriptor, right? You call that picture I posted a woman, you call a man a man, an "African American" as such, or black as black, latino as hispanic. But, in every one of those instances you could be entirely wrong....but so what. They are general descriptors. "Captain Kangaro" is not a general descriptor, you wouldn't call a person that (except Captain Kangaroo himself) by looking that them. THAT is the difference.
It is laughable that you think visual inspection should NOT be the litmus test, so, apparently genetic testing should be. And how would someone do genetic testing while meeting someone? Covert blood draws hidden in their palms? Some kind of futuristic retina scans?
I'm not claiming that Caitlyn is a woman, nowhere in my posts (except what AT concocts, idiotically, for his own purposes) will you find anything like that. I'm discussing people's reasons for REFUSING to address Caitlyn as a she, or even discuss it that way. They are doing so because they refuse, because they think his choices are wrong, because they don't agree with him, because they hate him, etc. They aren't doing it because it is factually wrong.
Calling a Mexican hispanic is factually wrong. Calling a black person not from Africa is factually wrong. Calling AT a "business owner" or a "libertarian" is factually wrong. Nobody gives a shit...unless they have personal reasons for refusing to address them as such. Hence my "Dr." example for non MDs.
Yeah but you probably would to this as well:
Plus, now I'm told that visual inspection isn't the litmus test....so why would it matter if you believed Jenner was a guy when you saw him?
here is where you are completely, laughably, 100% wrong.
Bruce Jenner was born with XY chromosomes. that is why he was born with a penis, and fathered children with a woman. Whatever he has chosen to do to mutilate his mind and body into thinking he is otherwise, he is still genetically a male. Mass delusion doesn't change that.
It isn't my fault you don't understand simple biology. try a different topic to argue about because this one you aren't very good at.
Bruce Jenner is still a man, sorry Charlie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system
What do you think you are debating? Why do you think we are discussing whether he/she/it is genetically a man? Do you think I disagree with it?
Yeah but you probably would to this as well:
Plus, now I'm told that visual inspection isn't the litmus test....so why would it matter if you believed Jenner was a guy when you saw him?
how about "unsure" or "person" ?
whatever you or i "think" about someone's sexual orientation does not change what they truly are. the observers opinion right or wrong has no bearing.
No, but you are attempting to use the distinction to obfuscate the issue at hand. Gender is a social construct that doesn't have anything to do with trying force certain groups of people to participate in other certain groups of people delusion of choice.
If i go around identifying as a horse, and you refuse to acknowledge that I am a horse, would you be okay with me turning you into the liberal mob for thought conditioning and sensitivity training?
No, you would probably think i was a nut bag, and rightfully so.
You liberals are not helping the mentally ill by pulling this crap and enabling them. you and your ilk are partly to blame for their suffering. deal with it.
LOL, nice jibberish! You're right though, Gender is mental and sex is biological. Most times they coincide, but not always. No "delusions of choice" are involved whatsoever.
why, because you say so? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
"However, Money's meaning of the word did not become widespread until the 1970s, when feminist theory embraced the concept of a distinction between biological sex and the social construct of gender."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
