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Article from one of my former colleagues:

Take care on banning books​

Iowa, Florida lead US in banned school books​


Deirdre Cox Baker
Nov 18, 2024

Did you know that Iowa, as well as Florida, lead the entire United States in restricting access to library books?

According to PEN America, which records such topics, more than 3,600 books were banned in Iowa school libraries in 2023-2024.

Banned books largely have a theme, of sorts, of race, sexual or gender identity.

It makes sense for parents to review books read by youngsters, but when the children grow up, some sense of trust should be established.

I grew up in a household where all five Cox children learned how to read at a young age.

My mother and father were both avid readers and scorned the television, which was a newish thing in the 1960s. To this day I watch about 4 hours of television each day. In one famous family story, our black-and-white television broke and my parents did not allow television in the home for two years!

Banned books also might include topics that readers find helpful in today’s world: Think, substance abuse, depression, mental health concerns and sexual violence.

I have two books on hand that are on banned lists. To wit:

1. “The Scarlet Letter,” by Nathanial Hawthorne and published in 1850, was based in puritanical Massachusetts where a teenage girl, Heather Prynne, conceived a baby with a man to whom she was not married. She tried to live a life of repentance and dignity but was forced to wear a “scarlet A” letter, for adultery.

2. “Huckleberry Finn,” by Mark Twain, was published in 1894. This is a work of art, and was on my “must read” list for years. It involves a white boy, Finn, and a black man, Jim. There is some violence but it’s pretty tame considering today’s standards.

When you investigate this topic it becomes non-sensical. “Captain Underpants?” “Winnie the Pooh?” Both are on various banned lists.

I believe that at some point, parents should trust their children to make decent choices. This is especially important when it comes to what the kids read.

The American Library Association has documented cases of banned books since 1990. Jodi Picoult’s book, “19 Minutes” and John Green’s book, “Looking for Alaska” are frequently banned in Iowa. Both authors are now suing the state over its school library restrictions.

Iowa’s Republican lawmakers argue that books with graphic descriptions of content have no place in the schools.

Opponents say the proposed law is overly broad and poses an unconstitutional impact on the rights to free speech and to receive information.

I believe most of the oversight starts with parents. Careful and sensible oversight would make some of these decisions unnecessary.

Pubic Hearing:

The public is invited to an opening hearing of the proposed banned books rules. It is set for 8-9 a.m. at the state boardroom of the Grimes State Office Building, Room B50, 400 East 14th St., Des Moines.

Written comments can be made not later than 4:30 p.m. on Dec. 11 by emailing Thomas.mayes@iowa.gov or by calling 515-281-8661. Letters may be mailed to Thomas A. Mayes, Iowa Department of Education, Grimes State Office Building, 400 E. 14th St., Des Moines, IA 50013.
 
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Not surprised.

There are increasingly more reasons for me not to like this state.
I grew up in Iowa City and stayed until I was 27, when I moved to NYC for grad school. I used to take pride in being from Iowa, but that’s changed over the years. The political landscape has shifted in a direction that feels more like Kansas—definitely not the best look.
 
I grew up in Iowa City and stayed until I was 27, when I moved to NYC for grad school. I used to take pride in being from Iowa, but that’s changed over the years. The political landscape has shifted in a direction that feels more like Kansas—definitely not the best look.
A huge issue is also what you just described. Far too many of you left us amongst the ignorant and uneducated fools who are now the majority.
 
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BTW, Iowa has the highest new cancer rates than the country
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When I was in 9th grade we took a class trip to St. Lous, MS. But not before stopping in Hannibal, MS to check out Mark Twain's hometown and references to the many places up and down the Mississippi that he would later write about. Stories of which were required reading for us at the time.

Sad.
 
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A huge issue is also what you just described. Far too many of you left us amongst the ignorant and uneducated fools who are now the majority.
For decades, this has been the reality: Iowa offers limited opportunities, especially for me in a creative field. Take my own experience as an example—I could never have worked as a six-figure Art Director in Iowa. Most creatives there feel fortunate just to land a low-paying job, let alone one that aligns with their passions or talents.

That said, I believe the more profound shift stems from the influence of right-wing media, particularly Sinclair Media which was primed by decades of Fox News. Over the years, Sinclair acquired a significant share of AM radio stations and local TV affiliates, saturating the airwaves with extreme right-wing narratives. As a result, many people in small towns find themselves immersed in a flood of misinformation and outright falsehoods. This echo chamber of distorted ideas has profoundly shaped the cultural and political landscape. Iowa used to be a state that stood up for decency. That obviously isn't the case any longer as the state has voted for Trump three elections now.
 
For decades, this has been the reality: Iowa offers limited opportunities, especially for me in a creative field. Take my own experience as an example—I could never have worked as a six-figure Art Director in Iowa. Most creatives there feel fortunate just to land a low-paying job, let alone one that aligns with their passions or talents.

That said, I believe the more profound shift stems from the influence of right-wing media, particularly Sinclair Media which was primed by decades of Fox News. Over the years, Sinclair acquired a significant share of AM radio stations and local TV affiliates, saturating the airwaves with extreme right-wing narratives. As a result, many people in small towns find themselves immersed in a flood of misinformation and outright falsehoods. This echo chamber of distorted ideas has profoundly shaped the cultural and political landscape. Iowa used to be a state that stood up for decency. That obviously isn't the case any longer as the state has voted for Trump three elections now.
You've nailed it. I grew up hearing RW AM radio on at public places in rural Iowa as a kid didn't pay any attention to it. Now suffering the consequences of it.
 
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When I was in 9th grade we took a class trip to St. Lous, MS. But not before stopping in Hannibal, MS to check out Mark Twain's hometown and references to the many places up and down the Mississippi that he would later write about. Stories of which were required reading for us at the time.

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I know I said it on another thread, but education and the ability for MAGAs to read and do their own research......Not going to happen

The only MAGAs that I engage with are some of the dumbest people I have ever encountered.
 
When I was in 9th grade we took a class trip to St. Lous, MS. But not before stopping in Hannibal, MS to check out Mark Twain's hometown and references to the many places up and down the Mississippi that he would later write about. Stories of which were required reading for us at the time.

Sad.
They banned Mark Twain?
 
They banned Mark Twain?
I have two books on hand that are on banned lists. To wit:

1. “The Scarlet Letter,” by Nathanial Hawthorne and published in 1850, was based in puritanical Massachusetts where a teenage girl, Heather Prynne, conceived a baby with a man to whom she was not married. She tried to live a life of repentance and dignity but was forced to wear a “scarlet A” letter, for adultery.

2. “Huckleberry Finn,” by Mark Twain, was published in 1894. This is a work of art, and was on my “must read” list for years. It involves a white boy, Finn, and a black man, Jim. There is some violence but it’s pretty tame considering today’s standards.
 
I grew up in Iowa City and stayed until I was 27, when I moved to NYC for grad school. I used to take pride in being from Iowa, but that’s changed over the years. The political landscape has shifted in a direction that feels more like Kansas—definitely not the best look.
We’ve had a similar experience since leaving our home state. It’s not the state I grew up in, and sadly, it never will be again.
 
I have two books on hand that are on banned lists. To wit:

1. “The Scarlet Letter,” by Nathanial Hawthorne and published in 1850, was based in puritanical Massachusetts where a teenage girl, Heather Prynne, conceived a baby with a man to whom she was not married. She tried to live a life of repentance and dignity but was forced to wear a “scarlet A” letter, for adultery.


2. “Huckleberry Finn,” by Mark Twain, was published in 1894. This is a work of art, and was on my “must read” list for years. It involves a white boy, Finn, and a black man, Jim. There is some violence but it’s pretty tame considering today’s standards.
JFC
 
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Honest question, is it not that hard to check out a banned book at the public library?

You want to read a book banned at school go to your damn PUBLIC library.

I guess I’m not going to lose sleep over this unless I’m missing something.
 
Honest question, is it not that hard to check out a banned book at the public library?

You want to read a book banned at school go to your damn PUBLIC library.

I guess I’m not going to lose sleep over this unless I’m missing something.
Yeah, wouldn’t want schools to be centers for “learning” or anything 🙄
 
Honest question, is it not that hard to check out a banned book at the public library?

You want to read a book banned at school go to your damn PUBLIC library.

I guess I’m not going to lose sleep over this unless I’m missing something.
Those books are age restricted rather than banned outright in most of the school systems I’ve heard or read about.
The vernacular of the time which Twain used to describe characters in the book is not unreasonably best left for older students instead of K-3 beginning readers. I would imagine some teachers would not be comfortable teaching about use of the n word either.
 
Yeah, wouldn’t want schools to be centers for “learning” or anything 🙄
Well that’s the million dollar question, is “learning” really reduced that much without said books?

Are ACT scores lower without these books? I highly doubt it.

Should we be outraged if we can’t check out the books: It, The Fault in Our Stars, or This Book is Gay at school?

Not going to lose sleep over it.

Once again, go to the public library.
 
Are ACT scores lower without these books? I highly doubt it.
If only there were some way to check!

Oh.


 
Those books are age restricted rather than banned outright in most of the school systems I’ve heard or read about.
The vernacular of the time which Twain used to describe characters in the book is not unreasonably best left for older students instead of K-3 beginning readers. I would imagine some teachers would not be comfortable teaching about use of the n word either.
LOL, the people having the vapors over some of these books don't pay any attention to what their kids do on their phones. It's faux rage. Kids should read more Twain. Trump speeches are more age inappropriate than a Twain book.
 
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So let me get this straight, YOU think ACT scores are LOWER because of BANNED BOOKS?

Yes or no?
Part of the overall trend of starving Iowa public schools of excellence: banning books, intimidating teachers, shifting public money to private religious schools - it’s all dumbing down the population here and it’s all inter-related absolutely.
 
I grew up in Iowa City and stayed until I was 27, when I moved to NYC for grad school. I used to take pride in being from Iowa, but that’s changed over the years. The political landscape has shifted in a direction that feels more like Kansas—definitely not the best look.
20+ years ago Mrs. Lucas and I moved back to IC from the South. We didn't want to raise our kids there, we wanted to capitalize on Iowa's schools.
We wouldn't make the same decision today.
 
Part of the overall trend of starving Iowa public schools of excellence: banning books, intimidating teachers, shifting public money to private religious schools - it’s all dumbing down the population here and it’s all inter-related absolutely.

That a yes or a no?

The reason education is going down is because of shitty parents and the advancement of technology.

Nothing to do with not being able to read a book about N Jim.
 
That a yes or a no?

The reason education is going down is because of shitty parents and the advancement of technology.

Nothing to do with not being able to read a book about N Jim.
It’s not a binary, black and white issue. That’s simple minded. The truth is there has been a concerted effort to devalue public education in Iowa and book banning is part of the playbook.

Once again you prove my theory of conservatives inability to think abstractly being accurate. Only a small child or mentally deficient person believes every issue has a black and white answer.

Ironically, being able to read books like Twain would help alleviate that increasingly frequent deficiency in our society and electioraye - but here we are.
 
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