until the game was basically out of reach. Too me this stands out as one of the most glaring differences between our gameplan against OSU vs Wisconsin. We did not stretch their defense out. Also, no use of Wadley in the passing game. Iowa regressed back to its conservative nature. I'm not sure why we completely abandoned what worked the previous week, but it's beyond frustrating.
Iowa did not take vertical shots downfield yesterday....
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Our line got blown up yesterday. I don't know that he would have had time to throw it down field. I cannot remember watching an Iowa game where both lines got outclassed so badly. That is not Iowa football. We are supposed to dominate the line
We haven't dominated a line in at least six years.
Yeah I gotta be honest here. If Brian Ferentz isn't the guy that had the crappiest morning on the staff it's Polisek. How do you have 3 o line guys on a staff and be this bad the year after a Joe Moore. The youth thing is over, these guys have had 7 starts and a bye week. The o line has been bad all year.
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There wasn't time to throw deep and when they (rarely) had time the deep throws were covered. The intermediate routes were also covered. Oh, and the short routes, too. And Stanley seemed to have an average of less than two seconds to throw. UW blitzed a lot and yet was still able to cover receivers and stop the run. Just an all-out ass-kicking by Wisconsin's D. They got whipped every which way an offense can get whipped. The very few times Iowa receivers got open and Stanley managed to throw near them they dropped the ball. Just a total shit game.
UW blitzed way more than OSU and had a better scheme to disrupt Iowa's plays. Lots of stunts and Iowa's OL looked lost trying to figure out where the pressure was coming from. Plus, UW runs a 3-4 and it was apparent Iowa wasn't ready for it. It was like they'd never seen a 3-4 defense before even though UW has been running it for years now. Nebraska runs a 3-4, too, but Jackson and Wirfs (who got whipped all game long) are freshman and have never played against it before. Not much of an excuse, though. I was surprised Ferentz didn't get Wirfs out of there or try someone else for a drive, but apparently it's only on the DL that substitutions can be made. Shocked that Iowa is so thin at OL. Polasek seems like a shitty OL coach, too.
We had plenty of time to throw the ball down field. We did not even try. This kills us. We have a QB with a hose and we continue to throw 5-8 yard passes. Our offence clicks when Stanley throws down field!!
Plenty of time? What game were you watching?
17-14 game with the ball and seem route to Fant hits off his hand. Pretty much makes your post look foolish. The next play was a drop by Easley for a first down. Then the botched snap. The game really changed on that series.
We had ran more plays than total yards at that point bear. That wasn't the turning point, it was the straw that broke the back.
The offense yes. The defense held their own until later in the third quarter, and then it started getting out of hand. The offense's futility and the constant short field for Wisky was too much to hold off at that point.
The defense did as good as they could considering they only had 3 plays of rest for almost every single one of their breaks.
I agree the pass protection wasn't great. But I think more times than not there was enough time to throw downfield. Especially if Fant or Hockenson is Stanley's first read. We just didn't even attempt it. Our first target to the TE's was 2/3rds of the way into the 3rd quarter. There are also other ways to buy a QB more time if necessary. Put an extra running back in to help pick up the blitz if we have to. The vertical passing game just wasn't an emphasis of the preparation for this game.
In my opinion in games like this, a 50/50 deep ball to our tall athletic TE's is >>>> than 3 and out and 30 yard punt.
I'm not sure how you know that Fant or Hockenson wasn't the first read on any number of plays. If you were at the game maybe you saw what I and others couldn't see on TV. There were some times when he had enough time in the pocket, but he definitely had a case of the yips most of the game, always afraid he was about to be sacked or hit. The pocket collapsed often enough for him to worry about it.
I remember on one play in particular he motioned for Butler to switch sides while he was in the shotgun even though a safety ran up to the line of scrimmage on the side of the ball where Butler had been. That guy blitzed and there was no one to pick him up. That's on Stanley. I think a number of plays were on Stanley. But he didn't have time very often and certainly not consistently. He had to be nearly perfect and a lot of his throws were off. Some of those balls we're calling drops would have been very tough catches for even really, really good WRs. But, yeah, it wasn't just the line. The line play was the worst problem, though.
But Stanley and the WRs crapped the bed, too. I don't know about the TEs other than it seemed that they were covered plenty. No one on offense ever got into a rhythm. UW deserves a lot of credit, most of it even, but gaining only 66 yards is on the players AND the coaches. I'm not sure who deserves more blame, though, to be honest because I couldn't tell what the hell the offense was trying to do most of the time other than not give up a safety, a sack, a TFL, or a turnover.
Wadley and Butler are probably the only players on the O who don't deserve much blame. They were pretty much invisible all game, though. And one area where I blame BF was that it wasn't until the 2nd half that he actually ran two running plays in a row. There were a few times when Iowa gained four yards on first down and then tried to pass. Maybe two runs in a row would have ultimately failed, but Iowa never really gave the running game a chance to get going and that would have helped with the passing game. It's obvious now that UW took a long look at the OSU tape and figured out how to take away Iowa's passing game. But BF didn't adjust until the game was out of reach and it seemed they were just running out the clock to get the game over. Every player and coach on offense deserves blame (except the RBs, really).
The O-line has to pass block better before you can take shots down field.The one deep ball thrown to Fant just missed being a TD.
Does anyone really think that the "game plan" was anything like the performance on the field? Do you think Stanley was told to ignore open receivers down the field? He either didn't have time or they were covered, or Stanley was being too conservative and not risking an interception.
And a week after dominating OSU on the LOS, the OL and the OL coach sucks?
This game did not go as "planned". Yes, the coaches did a poor job of finding something that would work as the game went on, and the players made too many mistakes.
And a week after dominating OSU on the LOS, the OL and the OL coach sucks?
This game did not go as "planned". Yes, the coaches did a poor job of finding something that would work as the game went on, and the players made too many mistakes.
2 things I’ve come up regarding the game.
1) give credit to Wisconsin . They clearly had been listening to everyone say they hadn’t played anyone and came in wanting to make a statement. They did that. That said...
2) special teams and offense had their WORST game of the year. Whether it’s vandeberg or Jackson, they have got to catch the punt and not let it bounce. Field position was terrible almost all game, and contributed to the offense. It seems ludicrous that we can’t put with decent hang time. Only good punts we had were off rugby punts. I don’t think a single player did well on Saturday, just terrible.
I wonder if it’s even worse showing tape of the game.
1) give credit to Wisconsin . They clearly had been listening to everyone say they hadn’t played anyone and came in wanting to make a statement. They did that. That said...
2) special teams and offense had their WORST game of the year. Whether it’s vandeberg or Jackson, they have got to catch the punt and not let it bounce. Field position was terrible almost all game, and contributed to the offense. It seems ludicrous that we can’t put with decent hang time. Only good punts we had were off rugby punts. I don’t think a single player did well on Saturday, just terrible.
I wonder if it’s even worse showing tape of the game.
Stanley had Fant for a TD had he just put a bit of touch and air beneath his throw.
GO HAWKS
Unfortunately, the IOWA QB has had very poor performances on the Road in the Big10, this year.
GO HAWKS
Unfortunately, the IOWA QB has had very poor performances on the Road in the Big10, this year.
That last part is an understatement. He's been an atrocity on the road and needs to take a gigantic step forward in that category before we can do anything in the West againStanley had Fant for a TD had he just put a bit of touch and air beneath his throw.
GO HAWKS
Unfortunately, the IOWA QB has had very poor performances on the Road in the Big10, this year.
It was probably hard for stanley to see his receivers from the pile he was under. I still dont understand how our line is this bad. I remember when we all use to praise kf's team for getting better as the year went on. Thats rarely the case anymore. That being said, iowa MUST throw deep and do so early to loosen up the d, even if you dont complete anything. If you wait till later in the game when you're already down big the d will continue to gamble knowing they have a cushion on the scoreboard
Who exactly recruited Polisek, told him what blocking scheme he had to use, stocked the OL with a bunch of recruiting busts so that there is not a Jr, soph on the team that can beat out a a RS Freshman and true Freshman at Tackle. I like Alaric Jackson/wirfs, but similar guys should have already been in pipeline. The OL is on BF/KF.
I was at the game and one glaring thing was Wisky had all 11 guys on most plays less then 10 yards from the LOS. Sometimes with press coverage on the outside. Not sure how we couldn't go deep. Also Hornibrook is terrible and should have been picked off a couple more times. Stares down every pass. But we only have 1 good CB that watches the QB's eyes and breaks on the ball. The others like Rugamba run with their back to the QB and try to use keys from the WR to break up the pass. The TD on Rugamba was terrible. QB stared at the WR the whole time. If Rugamba turns his head he picks it off.
I think tOSU has more line talent then UW, but Wisconsin is the only team that plays that style of blitzing defense in the BIG, so it's hard to duplicate it in practice. Nebby with Diaco has been trying to switch to that style this year, but hasn't had that success. I have found myself thinking that maybe we should steal a page from Bucky and put in the same blitzing style 3-4, but our current D players are not suited for that. AJ I don't think would be as good in the 3-4 as a DT, but I could be wrong.
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