Hard to trust this staff's evaluation on a QB.
And it might speak more to how pathetic the WRs have been.
And it might speak more to how pathetic the WRs have been.
Iowa Freshman Quarterback James Resar Moved to Wide Receiver
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How precisely are you differentiating between development and evaluation? They are 2 distinctly different things.
I would agree that Iowa's QB development had been quite poor under Brian. Furthermore, I can understand how development of players can decline if the teaching is poor AND/OR the pass-pro is bad enough to make them a trembling wreck (Petras, Padilla, etc).
If you look at Labas and Petras ... both guys are starting for other D1 programs ... so that isn't a total indictment of player evaluation. It's more of an indictment of player development (over the window that they were at Iowa).
Of course, if you look at guys like Hogan and Padilla ... then yeah, those ended up NOT starting at the D1-level.
However, almost every program ends up getting QBs who seem good ... but their career trajectory doesn't match their original evaluation. The point being that evaluations can be hard. What's more ... the harder part is actually landing the guy who you feel is the best candidate. The point being that recruiting is ultra-competitive for top-tier talent ... particularly at QB (b/c the QB spot can make or break a program ... usually ... of course, Iowa is bizarre because we manage to even win with Deac at the helm).
Anyhow, I believe that the Iowa coaches know how to evaluate QB-talent. The question now is whether Lester can develop them!
I don't trust fans who don't have as much data as the coaching staff.
Kirk also has to manage a whole organization ... particularly, he has to manage it in an equitable way that keeps the whole from fracturing.
Iowa fans like to celebrate talent ... but if Kirk were to blindly do that ... then we'd likely see repeats of shit like what Tom Osborn allowed happen with Lawrence Phillips. You cannot maintain a disciplined program with unity ... but then hold different standards for different guys. Such inequity would quickly cause schisms within the program.
The last time when something like that flew ... it was when Kirk tolerated the differing standard that Soup Campbell allowed from his WRs. It's true that the Hawks saw some great WR play over those years. However, the divisions also ran deeply too ... and that contributed to the 2010 collapse ... which then reverberated for years after. I'm sure if you ask guys like Pat and Adrian ... they may have thought that DJK was a cool guy ... but the also likely didn't dig the fact that he was such a prima donna.
It does make me wonder if getting great WR play requires a position coach who is exemplary at managing prima donnas ... because skill guys often tend to be a handful.
Ghost, I am 100% with. I’m just a fan of brevity, so sometimes my intent doesn’t come through. 😉
That, and I like to make stupid jokes.
They do not, but I do enjoy your thoughtful posts! One of the better ones on this board.
I don't think we'll ever know the talent-level of Kirk QBs.
Look at McNamara. Highly recruited. Stud at Michigan. Comes here and he looks like a 1-star recruit. Is it him? Did he just magically lose all of his talent at the same time he stepped on campus? Or is it the longer a QB is in Kirk's "system", the more he is coached to be a game-manager rather than a winner. And for the record, no coach in history has ever done anything memorable by coaching a QB to underplay his abilities.
Haha Kirk and Co. can't scout QBs for shIt. Once O'Keefe left they became braindead on identifying. I would assume our starters are going to be from the portal.
Wasn't like DJK a high school QB??? Also It sounds to me like they are grooming this weeks #2 to take over after Sully is done next year. Which means they need a solid #2 next year in case of injury. So Now they will need to figure out next spring who is the clear cut #3. Sounds like Lester is getting the QB room in order and we have had some good luck with QB;s going to wr and that kind of makes sense when you think about it.
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I wanna know why they moved Resnar to QB during the season instead of after. We have no second string qb this weekend if Sullivan gets dinged and has to sit out a play or two, or gets knocked out of the game. Cade out due to head injury, Marco out due to injury as well. How the hell does a back up third string qb get hurt? And so is Resnar, who was the 4th string qb. You can’t make up this stuff with this staff.
I don’t think this is a wise move however I am not the coach (thank goodness) but they need bodies at qb and his running threat alone could help Iowa’s offenseFreshman quarterback James Resar has flipped to playing wideout. Even before he got on campus, the #Hawkeyes noted Resar was different than other QB prospects
“You can't deny the athletic ability that he has. That was something that intrigued us.”
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Iowa Freshman Quarterback James Resar Moved to Wide Receiver
James Resar has changed positions. The three-star QB that came in as part of the 2024 class will now play wide receiver.iowa.rivals.com
He has 100 times of 10.67, 10.7, 10.99... that's good speed.
Right. Because Mac's injuries haven't been the biggest difference between him at Michigan and Iowa, like it had to be poor coaching right? The stupidity that gets posted here knows no bounds. Since he was a "stud" at Michigan, if thats even accurate, he had TWO documented knee injuries while still at M, he was recovering when he came to Iowa, then had a serious quad injury, then torn his acl at Iowa. Recovering again from that to start this season. Its obvious he never had great arm talent, but now because his leg injuries he doesn't step into throws and can't drive the ball down field more then 15-20 yards. And your point is that the coaches have nuetered him, is that it? Classic dumb ass post once again...
Even in Cades time at M he was basically a game manager, just with more talent around him. Even after leading them to the CFP Harbough was still going to rotate between him and JJ McCarthy, to decide who should start. I believe each started one game and the Cade started game 3 and thats when he got injured again. If he was that much of a stud after starting the whole previous season I doubt they'd have rotated them. He was good at Michigan, not great and they thought they had something in McCarthy who's more mobile. Cades struggles at Iowa have nothing to do with poor coaching. Obviously they were hoping to get the best version of him, and that has not happened.
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You realize he was moved when Cade was still QB1, Sully QB2, Marco QB3 (wasn't yet injured) and Stratton (who has played some D1 football already) was QB4. Resar was going to redshirt without any shadow of a doubt. I'm pretty certain he had already moved, but this only came out because Cade got injured so now people are looking at the QB back ups. Was ANYBODY worried about who QB5 was a few days ago? Make sense he might be moved and he may have been 1000% behind the chance to move. What I want to know is why so many people on here think they know better then the staff, (and thats not just Kirk) who should be moving where, or other personal matters.
Again before 5 days ago he would have been QB5 on the roster and a obvious redshirt. Was that really a issue before he was moved weeks ago? The thing people should try to understand is that in our little bubble here we get to critique things after the fact. After the play is done, after the game is done, after the injury happens. Does the coaching staff have some kind of crystal ball they're working with? Its just like with play calling. Every play they draw up works on the chalkboard. Its almost always the execution that falls short of the mark. This by the way was the topic on alot of the talk shows about NFL teams struggling. Most of these OC's know what they're doing but even in that league if each guy doesn't do his job almost none of the plays work.
Sorry.
Your doing yeoman work here. 👍
Watching his tape for 2 minutes told you all you needed to know about him throwing at the next level. Was never happening. Of course the Hawks recruit athletes and change their position according to Iowa’s need and their perceived best fit abilities, however not relying on the input of the board in these decisions is a major mistake!😂
Chad Greenway was also a high school QB....I'd say that worked out well too! 😀
It sounds like Marco's issue may not be injury, but an unannounced portal entry. On his Wed podcast, Chad eluded to this, but said he didn't want to be the one to "announce anything". So yeah, sounds like he gone.
It sounds like Marco's issue may not be injury, but an unannounced portal entry. On his Wed podcast, Chad eluded to this, but said he didn't want to be the one to "announce anything". So yeah, sounds like he gone.
Certainly interesting if true, but seems odd. Generally guys heading out are no longer listed in the two deeps. (see Brown and L Williams). As of today Marco is still listed as QB2 which seems unusual given they do that. If true, can Marco play as long as they haven't "announced" him leaving?
Yeah, I noticed the same thing. I didn't think about it being a possible portal move, but it has been telling that Chad has never said "injured" ... just that Marco would be "unavailable." He did say it wasn't a legal thing. So I guess portal makes as much sense as anything.
This is a good point. I also imagine that if Resar is looking to get on the field as a WR as soon as possible, the practice time he is getting in-season during these months is extraordinarily valuable. Far better than waiting until spring ball.
Pretty sure he tore his ACL right after he switched to WR. He is not getting any practice time anywhere.
The depth charts get put out Monday. Could have been Tuesday when he informed the coaches. Which is the day that Chad started talking about Marco not being available and KF giving a non-answer when asked about it at the Tuesday press conference. So it's not like they're going to put out a revised depth chart after Monday's.
Sure, but again this is all just speculation. They were very open about Brown and Williams. Why not Marco? My question was can he play if they don't announce it publicly at this time? He can't transfer anyway mid semester. Brown and Williams announced so they didn't use up this seasons eligibility. Obviously thats not an issue with Marco since he has not yet played this season. Technically if they don't announce it, he should be able to play in 4 games and still hit the portal in December. If I'm not mistaken there was a guy on a bowl team who was hitting the portal but hung with his team through the bowl game so they weren't short handed last season....
Marco may find himself the odd man out in the competition for the backup spot to eventually succeed Sullivan. Read during training camp that Stratton had moved ahead of Lainez although Marco should get the nod now should we need to to relieve Sullivan. We have Jimmy Sullivan coming in and a good looking prospect in Cash Herrera in the following class along with Fitzgerald's son coming in as a walkon. The QB room won't stay as thin as it has become for very long.
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Of course, which is why he may very well be hitting the portal. What were discussing now is who would be playing if Sully went down on Saturday. Would Marco be available or is Stratton the defacto backup...
To me, the fact that KF totally avoided the question tells me that, for whatever reason (injury or otherwise), Marco is not available should Sully go down with injury.
I really don't like to speculate on things like this until we hear from Kirk or the player himself. Surprised me to read in another thread that Lainez has broken his thumb which officially makes Stratton the backup Saturday. After the season Marco may evaluate his situation and decide to move on or he might decide to fight it out for the #2 spot in the spring. Only time will tell.
Good Lord. thats a lot to speculate on with nothing to back it up. It could be something minor. It could be a meniscus which often doesn't even require surgery. It could be a lot of things. No reason at all to start throwing out worse case scenarios.....
When a coach says a non-contact injury, that's typically what they're referring to.
Iowa has recruited a lot of good HS QBs that became stars at other positions. McNutt and DJK were HS QBs.
How bad were Brad Banks, Drew Tate, Ricky Stanzi, Vandenberg (jr year) Ruddock (future NFL) CJ (future NFL long term player) and Nate Stanley. That covers 16 years of QBing. KF's first QB was that douche bag Beutgers, 5 star on someone's list.
So the coaches recruited a qb with "weak throwing ability" in a system that needs a great passer? I guess they thought they could coach him up, work on his strength and technigue, and make him a much better passer. But now not!!!
But that is just the quizzical recruiting action. Really, if he has blazing speed and can really run routes and catch then it might make sense. If he has the frame around 6' 4" or so then he could be an excellent tight end.
We shall see and I will pull for him. But I also wonder about our recruiting process with qbs
They do a good job evaluating defensive talent. With Lester, QB will get an upgrade. Kirk should fire his Oline coach and focus his attention on that.
The improvement in QB and WR recruiting will have to improve together along with increased improveent in the passing game. Even 4 star WRs are not going to come here if we are not throwing 25 to 30 passes a game, taking some shots, hitting play pass plays.
Already this year the passing yardage per game is better and the completion percentage is better. Better passing stats will show recruits we want to throw the ball.
I hope even next year we are getting about 200 yards per game each passing and running and around a 400 yard per game total. Top recruits will want to come here. Right now ISM and Charley Jones are in the NFL so even to have a couple of receivers like that and a taller jump ball type receiver would be great on our team.
And CJB could sling the ball and make some great throws which has kept him in the NFL for 8 years.
I knew you were joking but I also really think Kirk would rather have his running backs, WRs, slot guys and tight ends taking the collisions. Running qbs are great especially ones who are good passers so they need to know when to slide.
Then there are those QBs like CJB and Drew Tate who smell the pylon and the first down markers in key situations and will take a hit. CJB made that last second lunge against Pitt in 2015 to get a few extra yards for Koehn's 57 yard fg. Otherwise, slide your butt on the ground qb. I was at Evanston when Tate took off, lept and got hit, and did a 360 in the air into the endzone, amazing skill and effort
