Iowa Hoops Record 2016/2017
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Assuming Peter Jok wants to remain in the USA next year, he'll either be at Iowa or working at a local Hyvee. My guess would be at Iowa.
I think he's saying Pete won't go play pro ball in Europe.
I'll go with 20 wins, bubble team.
I am going to hold out for the schedule but in the mean while.....I am going to enjoy this ...
The non-conference schedule is going to be a challenge. We have Virginia, Seton Hall, Iowa State, UNI and a few other tough ones that I can't remember. If we can get to 10 wins non-con, I will consider that a big success.
I need to see that schedule....Might add a win or two if Fran can pull in a Charlie Moore or the equivalent.
Cyclones and panthers are both winnable next year, are seton hall and Virginia part of whichever tournament we're in next year?
Conference-wise is impossible to say until the schedule comes out, and knowing what the final roster. I expect to be in the conversation for the NCAA every year. I won't be mad necessarily if we miss, due the major turnover.
Seton Hall is our draw in the B1G vs big east challenge (Gambit challenge or something)
I think Virginia is part of one of our non-con tourneys.
I think Virginia is part of one of our non-con tourneys.
So far about 33% of us have the Hawkeyes making the NCAA's. I sure hope the 33% are correct.
It's just a gut call for anybody at this point. No look at the whole schedule. No idea (entirely) who is going pro or not. And there are always team who lose someone or gain someone in the summer.
But it might be neat to compare this poll to another one done about a month before the season.
I think a lot of you are going to be pleasantly surprised with next year's squad.
Noncon schedule so far
Emerald Coast Classic
2 of Savannah/St Francis/Grambling/Rio Grand Valley (@Iowa)
Virginia
Providence/Memphis
Rivals
Iowa State
UNI (@ Des Moines)
Gavitt Games
Seton Hall
ACC Challenge
@ ??? (My guess is a middle road team like Georgia Tech or Virginia Tech)
Others
Kennesaw St
Nebraska Omaha
North Dakota
UNO and UND were both in the 150-200 RPI range last year so those are good additions
That leaves most likely two more teams that will likely be home cupcakes. I think we'll go something like 8-5 in noncon and 9-9 in B1G but that all depends on the schedule of course.
Emerald Coast Classic
2 of Savannah/St Francis/Grambling/Rio Grand Valley (@Iowa)
Virginia
Providence/Memphis
Rivals
Iowa State
UNI (@ Des Moines)
Gavitt Games
Seton Hall
ACC Challenge
@ ??? (My guess is a middle road team like Georgia Tech or Virginia Tech)
Others
Kennesaw St
Nebraska Omaha
North Dakota
UNO and UND were both in the 150-200 RPI range last year so those are good additions
That leaves most likely two more teams that will likely be home cupcakes. I think we'll go something like 8-5 in noncon and 9-9 in B1G but that all depends on the schedule of course.
So basically you think we are going to go 1-5 vs Virginia, Providence/Memphis, UNI, ISU, Seton Hall, and a middle of the pack ACC team?
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I'd take a 9-9 Big Ten record if it was offered up right now...and the chance of a NCAA bid dependent on non-conference and BTT success. Part of the excitement of college basketball is the newness each season offers. After 3 NCAA's in a row + an NIT final the last 4 years, I don't want to take that level of success for granted. However, I will admit I am excited to see different players and some in new roles-even if the end result isn't as good as it has been.
Since we are 7 months or so away from the start it is easy for me to be optimistic about the potential contributions of guys like Cook, Moss, Jones, and Bohannon who weren't really part of the team last year. Also, guys Williams, Baer, Wagner and Uhl to step up their game with increased opportunities and maybe a few surprises like a new player or Ellingson becomes a 50% 3 pt shooter. Losing as much experience as Iowa did I imagine the frustrating parts next year will be things like many more unforced turnovers and defensive breakdowns that comes with youth. Hoping to see more athletic ability result in being able to score in tough situations and having more threats to score on the court at the same time. Woody, MG, AC big minutes offered up a lot of misses outside of uncontested layups....but JU, PJ were as good as any offensive players Iowa has had for a long time to balance it out. Next year will be much different regardless of Jok being back or not.
Anyway, I'll go 21 win season with and a shocking good run in the BTT wins lets us get back to the NCAA tournament.
Since we are 7 months or so away from the start it is easy for me to be optimistic about the potential contributions of guys like Cook, Moss, Jones, and Bohannon who weren't really part of the team last year. Also, guys Williams, Baer, Wagner and Uhl to step up their game with increased opportunities and maybe a few surprises like a new player or Ellingson becomes a 50% 3 pt shooter. Losing as much experience as Iowa did I imagine the frustrating parts next year will be things like many more unforced turnovers and defensive breakdowns that comes with youth. Hoping to see more athletic ability result in being able to score in tough situations and having more threats to score on the court at the same time. Woody, MG, AC big minutes offered up a lot of misses outside of uncontested layups....but JU, PJ were as good as any offensive players Iowa has had for a long time to balance it out. Next year will be much different regardless of Jok being back or not.
Anyway, I'll go 21 win season with and a shocking good run in the BTT wins lets us get back to the NCAA tournament.
Certainly possible. It's a young team. Don't think they'll be able to hang with good/experienced teams early, kinda like Wisconsin this year. Also it's very possible they could drop one or two games they shouldn't (Campbell Camels anyone?)
I also think they'll be much better in February than in November.
I'm calling plagiarism on that first sentence. You will be hearing from my lawyer.
in 2012 the lineup looked like this to start the season
FR PG Clemmons
FR SG Gesell
JR WG Marble
SO F White
FR C Woodbury
and that team won 25 games and 9-9 in the BT with them making the NIT Championship.
this year the lineup might look like this
PG SO Williams
SG SR Jok
SF JR Uhl
PF FR Cook
C FR Kriener
wish I could post the video of Kriener leaping over another player in a exhibition for a dunk as that would quash any doubt about his Athletic ability or his inability in playing or starting rather needing 2-3 years to develop.
FR PG Clemmons
FR SG Gesell
JR WG Marble
SO F White
FR C Woodbury
and that team won 25 games and 9-9 in the BT with them making the NIT Championship.
this year the lineup might look like this
PG SO Williams
SG SR Jok
SF JR Uhl
PF FR Cook
C FR Kriener
wish I could post the video of Kriener leaping over another player in a exhibition for a dunk as that would quash any doubt about his Athletic ability or his inability in playing or starting rather needing 2-3 years to develop.
Other than Jok (assuming he is indeed back), Iowa is going to have all new starters. I like the potential of this team and think in time they will be really good. But trying to make any sort of prediction about next year's team is more than a crap shoot. It's an absolute shot in the dark.
For the record, if everyone stays healthy and the young guys improve with experience, I think an at-large bid in the NCAA tourney is certainly possible.
For the record, if everyone stays healthy and the young guys improve with experience, I think an at-large bid in the NCAA tourney is certainly possible.
yes it does as that team was younger than this years team
PG William will be a SO who has played Clemmons was a FR with no paying time
SG Jok as a SR ACTUALLY started again Gesell as a FR never played a minute
SF Marble as a JR did have starting experience Uhl will be a JR and was the 6th man
PF White as SO did have starting experience Cook will be a FR with no prior experience
C Woodbury as a FR had no prior playing time Kriener as a FR will have no prior experience
the 2012 team had 3 starters with absolutely no experience
this season only Cook and Kriener will be the only ones without playing time,
also top 50 by ESPN Wodbury is being replaced by top 50 by ESPN Cook.
so yes they do indeed make this a interesting comparison.
this years team is also deeper than that team, top 3 for that 2012 team were Basabe, Ogelsby, McCabe, May and Olaseni.
I think most will agre that Moss is a better player than Oglesby, Baer is a better player than McCabe maybe even better than May, Wagner is probably better than Basabe, Olaseni was still a project. and if Jones is fullu healthey is the Wild card.
this team is/will be better than that team at the same stage. so winning 20-22 games and being a round of 32 team is not of the realm of happening.
You wasted a lot of time typing up that pile of steaming crap. Basically what I got from that is that the 2016 team is better on paper in your mind, but they won't win 20-22 games or make the round of 32. Makes no sense, but I guess I should have expected that.
nobody expected the 15-16 team to finish better than 9th in the BT Either but it happened, and the only thing that is a pile of crap is you
Little buddy. Some pundits, some people, some, had Iowa as low as ninth last season. Some.
Danny boy. I guess some, just some, actually don't see everything thru black and gold tinted glasses.
Yeah and then there are those who just want to complain about Iowa as if it is finishing dead last every year.
It is not a situation where people are looking at everything thru black and gold glasses. It is a case where some fans (not you obviously) are looking at Fran's body of work as a coach for the past 30 years. He has shown the ability to coach teams up and maintain a level of consistency with regard to win-loss records.
I wouldn't be surprised if Iowa won 20 games in 2016-2017 based upon what Fran has already done at Iowa and what he accomplished at Siena. Is it going to happen (winning 20 games)? I don't know but it will be an interesting and exciting year nonetheless.
Here's the dunk. Only doing this because I can.
This happened on Saturday at Linn-Mar during the ACC Barnstorming Tour game. the announcers on the BTN were picking IA to finish 9th, IA was not even on the preseason Brackts
as well as people on the msg boards. very very few saw what was coming from Uthoff and Jok.
thanks for the vid, not many 6'10 players can do that, combine that with what Cooks does and they will become the slammin brothers,Here's the dunk. Only doing this because I can.
Impressive dunk by Kriener but it doesn't change my opinion on if he starts next year.
that is fine everybody has their opinion, the last time IA had someone with that kind of ability was Sir Jam A lot Wright the next closest was Roy Marble SR.
my opinion is that he can start.
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