Fine thanks since I didn't have a mRNA vaccine for it...
Iowa lawmakers advance bill that would ban COVID-19 vaccines
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They are working on mRNA vaccines to treat cancer. No wonder Iowa GOP wants to ban them. Under their leadership cancer has found a great home.
MAGA loves cancer. I hope the feeling is mutual.
Morons!:
Iowa lawmakers advanced a bill Monday banning the administration of mRNA vaccines.
The bill, Senate File 360, would outlaw any person in the state of Iowa from administering an mRNA and would impose penalties of up to $500 for anyone found guilty of doing so.
According to MedlinePlus, an official website of the U.S. government, mRNA vaccines are a type of vaccine that use a synthetic piece of genetic code, called mRNA, to produce a specific protein.
COVID-19 vaccines, an example of an mRNA vaccine, work by injecting a COVID-19 protein into the vaccine, which the body’s immune system then recognizes and mounts a response against, helping to protect against infection.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services, has previously sought to revoke the authorization of all COVID-19 vaccines, claiming the risks of the vaccines far outweigh the benefits.
Several doctors spoke in support of the bill, citing the danger of COVID-19 vaccines and the unknown, long-term impacts.
Dr. Ben Tapper, an anti-vaccine chiropractor from Nebraska, said he has studied mRNA vaccines for several years and said there is not enough research yet about the long-term effects, making it dangerous for the COVID-19 vaccine to stay on the market.
“We have literally zero studies to show the long-term effects. Even the manufacturers admit they couldn’t study these vaccines for years before the release,” Tapper said. “Shouldn’t that be enough to pull this from the market?”
According to AP News, there is ample evidence that mRNA vaccines, including those that prevent COVID-19, do not cause harm and are effective.
As of 2022, only .0027 percent of those who had received COVID-19 vaccines resulted in preliminary death, AP News reported.
Edward Dowd, a former Wall Street executive, said his firm Finance Technologies has spent the last four years doing deep, extensive research into excess deaths, disabilities, and injuries. Dowd said there has been a 37 percent rise in civilian labor forces since February 2021 with 4.5 million disabled individuals added, based on his research.
“We identify signals and changes in trends, so we believe that mRNA vaccines are the cause of these trends. Regardless of my opinion, the trend has emerged, which is quite alarming [and it] needs to be investigated,” he said.
Opponents of the bill emphasized the legislation’s imposition on individual rights and the importance of vaccines in keeping the general public safe and healthy.
Lina Tucker Reinders, executive director of the Iowa Public Health Association, said the research around mRNA has been around for decades and is being applied to cancer and agricultural research.
“This is the direction of vaccine research, and stopping this research [and] making these vaccines not available for Iowans puts our health at risk, puts our agricultural sector at risk, and quite frankly, puts our research universities at risk if they cannot engage in this type of research,” Reinders said.
Dr. Patrick Keating, a doctor of child and adolescent psychiatry at Iowa Lutheran Hospital, expressed his frustration with the bill, supporting the effectiveness and safety of mRNA vaccines.
“The mRNA vaccines have been effective in saving thousands and thousands of lives. They have potential to save thousands of more lives,” he said. “These decisions need to be between a physician and their patient. The legislation has no right to take away a patient’s individual choice to be vaccinated or not.”
Dr. John Crosbie, a family medicine physician and professor at Des Moines University, said it would be difficult to imagine himself sitting here today if it hadn’t been for the COVID-19 vaccine.
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“Five years ago, I had to run around town trying to find N95 masks for Mercy Hospital because they had 200 for the entire hospital at the start of the COVID pandemic,” he said. “Now, we have over a million people in the ground. They died because of COVID.”
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, over 1.2 million individuals in the U.S. have died from COVID-19 since Jan. 1, 2020.
Crosbie said the bill would be taking away from future physicians choosing to practice in the state of Iowa.
“I will tell you this right now — our students want no part of practicing here when bills like this are on the table,” he said. “You are chasing them off. You go ahead. Pass it. Chase off the best and brightest.”
Iowa lawmakers advance bill that would ban COVID-19 vaccines
Iowa lawmakers advanced a bill Monday banning the administration of mRNA vaccines. The bill, Senate File 360, would outlaw any person in the state of Iowa from administering an mRNA and would impose penalties of up to $500 for anyone found guilty of doing so. According to MedlinePlus, an...dailyiowan.com
Weird. She doesn't look grossly overweight...
You just know she was jabbed and boosted.
Otherwise it would have been a lot worse.
Keep putting thay crap on your veins, that's exactly what your arm will be.
Well Dr. Drew Wasserman and his co-discoverer of mRNA did recently win the Nobel Prize for this. mRNA strands are all through our cells in our bodies. I would be surprised that an mRNA strand that has the 4 main base pairs in an arrangement that produces the Covid 19 spike protein is going to cause health problems.Morons!:
Iowa lawmakers advanced a bill Monday banning the administration of mRNA vaccines.
The bill, Senate File 360, would outlaw any person in the state of Iowa from administering an mRNA and would impose penalties of up to $500 for anyone found guilty of doing so.
According to MedlinePlus, an official website of the U.S. government, mRNA vaccines are a type of vaccine that use a synthetic piece of genetic code, called mRNA, to produce a specific protein.
COVID-19 vaccines, an example of an mRNA vaccine, work by injecting a COVID-19 protein into the vaccine, which the body’s immune system then recognizes and mounts a response against, helping to protect against infection.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services, has previously sought to revoke the authorization of all COVID-19 vaccines, claiming the risks of the vaccines far outweigh the benefits.
Several doctors spoke in support of the bill, citing the danger of COVID-19 vaccines and the unknown, long-term impacts.
Dr. Ben Tapper, an anti-vaccine chiropractor from Nebraska, said he has studied mRNA vaccines for several years and said there is not enough research yet about the long-term effects, making it dangerous for the COVID-19 vaccine to stay on the market.
“We have literally zero studies to show the long-term effects. Even the manufacturers admit they couldn’t study these vaccines for years before the release,” Tapper said. “Shouldn’t that be enough to pull this from the market?”
According to AP News, there is ample evidence that mRNA vaccines, including those that prevent COVID-19, do not cause harm and are effective.
As of 2022, only .0027 percent of those who had received COVID-19 vaccines resulted in preliminary death, AP News reported.
Edward Dowd, a former Wall Street executive, said his firm Finance Technologies has spent the last four years doing deep, extensive research into excess deaths, disabilities, and injuries. Dowd said there has been a 37 percent rise in civilian labor forces since February 2021 with 4.5 million disabled individuals added, based on his research.
“We identify signals and changes in trends, so we believe that mRNA vaccines are the cause of these trends. Regardless of my opinion, the trend has emerged, which is quite alarming [and it] needs to be investigated,” he said.
Opponents of the bill emphasized the legislation’s imposition on individual rights and the importance of vaccines in keeping the general public safe and healthy.
Lina Tucker Reinders, executive director of the Iowa Public Health Association, said the research around mRNA has been around for decades and is being applied to cancer and agricultural research.
“This is the direction of vaccine research, and stopping this research [and] making these vaccines not available for Iowans puts our health at risk, puts our agricultural sector at risk, and quite frankly, puts our research universities at risk if they cannot engage in this type of research,” Reinders said.
Dr. Patrick Keating, a doctor of child and adolescent psychiatry at Iowa Lutheran Hospital, expressed his frustration with the bill, supporting the effectiveness and safety of mRNA vaccines.
“The mRNA vaccines have been effective in saving thousands and thousands of lives. They have potential to save thousands of more lives,” he said. “These decisions need to be between a physician and their patient. The legislation has no right to take away a patient’s individual choice to be vaccinated or not.”
Dr. John Crosbie, a family medicine physician and professor at Des Moines University, said it would be difficult to imagine himself sitting here today if it hadn’t been for the COVID-19 vaccine.
RELATED: Iowa’s cancer rates continue to increase, number of survivors grows
“Five years ago, I had to run around town trying to find N95 masks for Mercy Hospital because they had 200 for the entire hospital at the start of the COVID pandemic,” he said. “Now, we have over a million people in the ground. They died because of COVID.”
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, over 1.2 million individuals in the U.S. have died from COVID-19 since Jan. 1, 2020.
Crosbie said the bill would be taking away from future physicians choosing to practice in the state of Iowa.
“I will tell you this right now — our students want no part of practicing here when bills like this are on the table,” he said. “You are chasing them off. You go ahead. Pass it. Chase off the best and brightest.”
Iowa lawmakers advance bill that would ban COVID-19 vaccines
Iowa lawmakers advanced a bill Monday banning the administration of mRNA vaccines. The bill, Senate File 360, would outlaw any person in the state of Iowa from administering an mRNA and would impose penalties of up to $500 for anyone found guilty of doing so. According to MedlinePlus, an...
It is the spike protein that our body builds its defense around in our immune system.
I doubt the idiot repub lawmakers in Iowa know anything about how they work. Too bad for all of us because these types of vaccines can be pretty quickly made to save lives.
I love it when republicans like to tell people what they can and cannot do to their body
Hint: a chiropractor from Nebraska is not a doctor. Or an expert. In anything.
Looks to me like they decided to push the envelope a bit and go for all vaccines now. What say you MAGA folk, do you support this?
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Chiropractors act like they know they just about everything in medicine. They need to stick to "adjustments". They are closer to acupuncturists than actual doctors imo.
They're closer to Dr. Seuss than actual doctors. A number of their schools actively push the anti vaccine nonsense.
Man I'm sure glad we have such big government moves. I'm glad they are looking out for my personal choices so I don't have to make one.
It's not like this state doesn't have a shortage of health care workers already.
It's not like this state doesn't have a shortage of health care workers already.
For the life of me I can't think of why a chiropractor would be able to give advice on vaccines. What do they use vaccines for? Honest question as I've never been to a chiropractor.
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The mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 has been commonly considered the best response to the global COVID-19 pandemic crisis. However, assessment of its real-world effect can be performed by analysis of all-cause mortality by vaccination status. The UK is perhaps the only country which has made publicly available all-cause mortality data by vaccination status.
4.5 Unintended effects of COVID-19 vaccines on the increasing deaths
Last but not least: why are the SMRs of non-COVID-19 related deaths increasing? Why should the risk of those vaccinated with any dose increase compared to that of the unvaccinated? Apart from the risk of immediate adverse reactions/events, the doubt naturally arises that the vaccine might cause damage to the immune system, exposing the vaccinated to a greater risk of death from pathologies non-COVID-19 related37 , 38Non-COVID-19 SMR values show a very similar trend: initially they are much lower than 1, but it is not plausible such a vaccine protection from non-COVID-19 deaths. Therefore, this suggests significant biases in the ONS dataset, leading to an underestimation of the risks for the vaccinated. Regardless of the interpretative hypotheses, the fact that all-cause mortality SMRs in vaccinated increase over time compared to those of unvaccinated requires further, urgent investigation. Moreover, the precautionary principle should suggest much greater caution in promoting extensive vaccination campaigns, pending the acquisition of valid explanations of the alarming phenomenon observed.
All-cause mortality according to COVID-19 vaccination status: An analysis of the UK office for National statistics public data - PMC
The mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 has been commonly considered the best response to the global COVID-19 pandemic crisis. However, assessment of its real-world effect can be performed by analysis of all-cause mortality by vaccination ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
So, alcohol, tobacco, gambling and fireworks are all legal in Iowa, and of course guns and concealed carry (or is it open?). All can be pretty dangerous if not used properly. But the Iowa government is going to decide that a vaccine is illegal?
Can someone explain what Republicans' endgame is here? For the life of me I can't figure out why they are okay with Americans getting sick and dying, or taking away simple freedoms that Republicans have always wanted us to have.
I'm sticking with my prediction...if Trump gets a third term and Democrats can't win a federal election, Republicans will come for our guns. A dictator can't have a well armed populace.
I'm sticking with my prediction...if Trump gets a third term and Democrats can't win a federal election, Republicans will come for our guns. A dictator can't have a well armed populace.
UIHC is "woke", bro....
Suddenly, the SC will "remember" about the "militia" phrase in the 2A.
And the President will be afforded the power in the Exec branch to determine which "militias" are legitimate, and which are not...
That's literally how this plays out
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The mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 has been commonly considered the best response to the global COVID-19 pandemic crisis. However, assessment of its real-world effect can be performed by analysis of all-cause mortality by vaccination status. The UK is perhaps the only country which has made publicly available all-cause mortality data by vaccination status.
4.5 Unintended effects of COVID-19 vaccines on the increasing deaths
Last but not least: why are the SMRs of non-COVID-19 related deaths increasing? Why should the risk of those vaccinated with any dose increase compared to that of the unvaccinated? Apart from the risk of immediate adverse reactions/events, the doubt naturally arises that the vaccine might cause damage to the immune system, exposing the vaccinated to a greater risk of death from pathologies non-COVID-19 related37 , 38
Non-COVID-19 SMR values show a very similar trend: initially they are much lower than 1, but it is not plausible such a vaccine protection from non-COVID-19 deaths. Therefore, this suggests significant biases in the ONS dataset, leading to an underestimation of the risks for the vaccinated. Regardless of the interpretative hypotheses, the fact that all-cause mortality SMRs in vaccinated increase over time compared to those of unvaccinated requires further, urgent investigation. Moreover, the precautionary principle should suggest much greater caution in promoting extensive vaccination campaigns, pending the acquisition of valid explanations of the alarming phenomenon observed.
All-cause mortality according to COVID-19 vaccination status: An analysis of the UK office for National statistics public data - PMC
The mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 has been commonly considered the best response to the global COVID-19 pandemic crisis. However, assessment of its real-world effect can be performed by analysis of all-cause mortality by vaccination ...
Should probably read what you post:
For multi-vaccinated:
Furthermore, they show an implausible high protection of the vaccine against deaths from all causes, too high to be attributed to protection from deaths from COVID-19, which are a minority percentage of total deaths.
This is (quite literally) due to Covid sequelae, where the vaccines are protecting against those Covid complications.
And, they ignore that the vaccines are not as effective against new strains, so their data cannot accommodate continued vaccination. It's basically "cherry picked" data based on the initial sets of vaccines given out, and completely ignoring subsequent vaccinations against newer variants.
Not really much to see here, but a study with severe limitations that pretty much pre-define the conclusions they got.
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The mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 has been commonly considered the best response to the global COVID-19 pandemic crisis. However, assessment of its real-world effect can be performed by analysis of all-cause mortality by vaccination status. The UK is perhaps the only country which has made publicly available all-cause mortality data by vaccination status.
4.5 Unintended effects of COVID-19 vaccines on the increasing deaths
Last but not least: why are the SMRs of non-COVID-19 related deaths increasing? Why should the risk of those vaccinated with any dose increase compared to that of the unvaccinated? Apart from the risk of immediate adverse reactions/events, the doubt naturally arises that the vaccine might cause damage to the immune system, exposing the vaccinated to a greater risk of death from pathologies non-COVID-19 related37 , 38
Non-COVID-19 SMR values show a very similar trend: initially they are much lower than 1, but it is not plausible such a vaccine protection from non-COVID-19 deaths. Therefore, this suggests significant biases in the ONS dataset, leading to an underestimation of the risks for the vaccinated. Regardless of the interpretative hypotheses, the fact that all-cause mortality SMRs in vaccinated increase over time compared to those of unvaccinated requires further, urgent investigation. Moreover, the precautionary principle should suggest much greater caution in promoting extensive vaccination campaigns, pending the acquisition of valid explanations of the alarming phenomenon observed.
All-cause mortality according to COVID-19 vaccination status: An analysis of the UK office for National statistics public data - PMC
The mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 has been commonly considered the best response to the global COVID-19 pandemic crisis. However, assessment of its real-world effect can be performed by analysis of all-cause mortality by vaccination ...
Also, authors are not exactly a "who's who" of epidemiologists and statisticians, which is who you'd want doing this analysis.
Look up their bios if you want.
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The mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 has been commonly considered the best response to the global COVID-19 pandemic crisis. However, assessment of its real-world effect can be performed by analysis of all-cause mortality by vaccination status. The UK is perhaps the only country which has made publicly available all-cause mortality data by vaccination status.
4.5 Unintended effects of COVID-19 vaccines on the increasing deaths
Last but not least: why are the SMRs of non-COVID-19 related deaths increasing? Why should the risk of those vaccinated with any dose increase compared to that of the unvaccinated? Apart from the risk of immediate adverse reactions/events, the doubt naturally arises that the vaccine might cause damage to the immune system, exposing the vaccinated to a greater risk of death from pathologies non-COVID-19 related37 , 38
Non-COVID-19 SMR values show a very similar trend: initially they are much lower than 1, but it is not plausible such a vaccine protection from non-COVID-19 deaths. Therefore, this suggests significant biases in the ONS dataset, leading to an underestimation of the risks for the vaccinated. Regardless of the interpretative hypotheses, the fact that all-cause mortality SMRs in vaccinated increase over time compared to those of unvaccinated requires further, urgent investigation. Moreover, the precautionary principle should suggest much greater caution in promoting extensive vaccination campaigns, pending the acquisition of valid explanations of the alarming phenomenon observed.
All-cause mortality according to COVID-19 vaccination status: An analysis of the UK office for National statistics public data - PMC
The mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 has been commonly considered the best response to the global COVID-19 pandemic crisis. However, assessment of its real-world effect can be performed by analysis of all-cause mortality by vaccination ...
One reviewer comment, that I agree with here:
Regarding the overall conclusions I would suggest being more cautious regarding strong statements (such as a moratorium on promoting mass vaccination campaigns should be implemented) as the findings are only observational and require further confirmation and more in-depth investigations at best with inclusion of more potential confounders and IPD.
It is a spot-on observation, as these authors are ignoring long-term complications from Covid (sequelae) that vaccines protect against, and that is highly likely to be a factor as to why they "found" an "unexplainable" outlier observation of the vaccines being "more protective" than they believe is possible. That's really a major gap with their analysis here, IMO.
You should probably read what I posted; this was explained for the dullards and 🤡's out there.
Furthermore, they show an implausible high protection of the vaccine against deaths from all causes, too high to be attributed to protection from deaths from COVID-19, which are a minority percentage of total deaths. Both studies, however, are affected by important biases. The main one is the so-called Immortal Time Bias (ITB), as highlighted in an intervention published in an Italian epidemiology journal. 14 After correction of ITB, the unlikely protection provided by the third dose against death from all causes disappears entirely. Another recent study, 15 was based on the same dataset kindly provided by the authors of the article, 13 but corrected for the ITB. In its multivariable analysis, this study shows higher all-cause death hazard ratios (HRs) for individuals vaccinated with one and two doses compared to unvaccinated, and no protection against all-cause deaths for population vaccinated with 3 or more doses. Furthermore, the study 15 found a small but statistically significant reduction in life expectancy for vaccinated people with two and three or more doses.
One more try: BUT NOT TOO HIGH TO BE ATTRIBUTED TO PROTECTIONS FROM COVID-19 SEQUELAE
Which they did not analyze or discuss at all; because this is a group of bean-counters, not physicians and epidemiology statisticians.
No shit? 'Bean counters' are exactly what you want when doing an analysis of all-cause mortality by vaccination status. They weren't conducting a clinical trial on the safety and efficacy of a covid vaccine, just looking at cold, hard data.
And after they adjusted for biases in the two cited studies they found those 'protections' you are screeching about are non-existent.
Maybe go back and read it a time or ten. Eventually it might sink in.
But likely not.
No, they are not.
Because they forget about sequelae from Covid that can substantially elevate deaths rates, months AFTER an infection. And completely unaddressed by this horseshit "paper".
....and they decried that "vaccination status" could not possibly account for the much lower mortality in that group and has to be some kind of "error".
I miss the days when people's personal opinions wouldn't be signed into law. We have gone down the toilet and there is no turning back.
Nope. They could not declare that, and they did not delve into post-Covid sequelae as the most likely explanation. That's something an actual epidemiologist would look at. Unfortunately, not a single epidemiologist on the paper's author list.
