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Iowa needs to learn from Wisconsin

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Scheduling a powerhouse the first week.

Impressive win.
 
We would have gotten smoked if we'd played a decent team today. I'm fine with having a warm up game or two.
 
Did you watch the wisky game? Both teams incredibly sloppy. Wisky managed to make fewer mistakes. Iowa would have faired just fine against LSU.
LSU is a dysfunctional, one-dimension team with good athletes. Michigan or OSU would have taken us apart.
 
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It's good for Wiscy, but it's not numerically needed. You don't need an early win against a 'who knows where the end up LSU team' to go to the playoffs. Had we won against MSU last year, we would have went despite our fairly weak schedule.

Still, it is good to see and it does create more excitement to go that route.
 
LSU is a dysfunctional, one-dimension team with good athletes. Michigan or OSU would have taken us apart.
I didn't realize we were talking about teams other than LSU. Regardless, your point is still invalid imo. If we play a team like that out of the gate we see a completely different gameplay and prep.
 
Not really, we played nobody last year were ranked 3 and if we could have stopped a really long drive would have been in the playoffs

Conan the Barbarian was right ...paraphrasing.... a battle with what does not kill you, only makes you stronger. Wisconsin in in better shape with that game, but if they'd lost they wouldn't be better off.

ISU will probably be enough of a battle for this Iowa team.

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Iowa has played exactly 1 non-conference game against the SEC in their entire history...and that was a one-off 12th game kickoff classic in NJ in the 80's against Tennessee. They will never agree to a game at Iowa, and Iowa doesn't hold the allure of a Wisconsin (currently) to make it worthwhile for a program like LSU to schedule a couple neutral site games.

Folks, it ain't gonna happen. Iowa looks for programs like themselves...Pitt, Arizona, ASU, Syracuse - those types of programs.

To me (examples), K-State/Kansas, Texas Tech/TCU, Air Force, Boise State, Washington/WSU, Cincinnati, UConn, Oregon State, Cal, Colorado, Temple, Boston College...those are the types of programs Iowa might have some success scheduling in the future. Programs that might be agreeable to a home and home.

Now, if Iowa can run a decade of Wisconsin type success, win a Rose Bowl for once, or make the playoff...who knows.

You'd think that maybe an Arkansas, Mississippi State, Missouri, South Carolina - might give us a shot...but when it gets right down to it, there's nothing in it for them right now, and their programs are greedy (home cupcakes) just like Iowa.
 
Did you watch the wisky game? Both teams incredibly sloppy. Wisky managed to make fewer mistakes. Iowa would have faired just fine against LSU.

Wow, wishful thinking or you watched the game drunk.
Wisconsin totally dominated a top ranked team who had our former DC on their sidelines.
Time of possession one sided to Wisconsin, shut them out first half while badgers left points on the board and except for a 1 minute 30 second stretch where two Inexperienced Badgers made mistakes , Houston a pick 6 that Chryst never should have called and the WR Rushing fumbling a reception for a first down that led to the only other score, Badgers totally dominated the #5 team in the country, an SEC team.
If Iowa did it you'd be talking NC and Heisman trophies etc.
 
Good win for the Badgers, and to steal a page from the SEC . BIG rules! Doesnt this mean we've beaten Alabama and LSU in the last 3 years?

Sarcasm alert above.
 
I was at the game, we played a base defense...no stunts or blitzing. If we were playing LSU the game plan would of been different. It's one game and we won by 24 points. Lots of new players and Jewell and Hesse missed most of the game.

couldn't have said it better...Iowa is a really good football team that did not need to unleash "everything"....yet I loved the flea flicker and going for the TD on 4th down.
 
Wow, wishful thinking or you watched the game drunk.
Wisconsin totally dominated a top ranked team who had our former DC on their sidelines.
Time of possession one sided to Wisconsin, shut them out first half while badgers left points on the board and except for a 1 minute 30 second stretch where two Inexperienced Badgers made mistakes , Houston a pick 6 that Chryst never should have called and the WR Rushing fumbling a reception for a first down that led to the only other score, Badgers totally dominated the #5 team in the country, an SEC team.
If Iowa did it you'd be talking NC and Heisman trophies etc.
So Iowa would have had no chance? What are you arguing? Regardless of TOP, whisky made a lot of mistakes, like the pick 6 you mentioned, and the pick in the end zone.
 
Now that there are 9 conference games, until ANYONE can figure out how to get the Clowns off of our schedule (HINT - it won't happen as much as I'd like to see it happen), get used to Iowa State and 2 MAC teams. Like or not (I don't) that's reality until something changes.
 
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Now that there are 9 conference games, until ANYONE can figure out how to get the Clowns off of our schedule (HINT - it won't happen as much as I'd like to see it happen), get used to Iowa State and 2 MAC teams. Like or not (I don't) that's reality until something changes.
Right here, our hands are tied as long as the clowns are mandated to be on the schedule.
 
LSU would have run up and down the field against our run D today.
its possible the Miami offense is pretty good - will be interesting to see how they do the rest of the year. The QB was great yesterday. (that defense is not good) I like to listen to Ed P. during the game (even if i have to suffer Dolph) he mentioned Miami used the same blocking scheme as Mich St and Stanford to blow up the middle of our D line and obviously they were successful. we can expect to see alot of that until we show we can stop it...
 
Iowa has played exactly 1 non-conference game against the SEC in their entire history...and that was a one-off 12th game kickoff classic in NJ in the 80's against Tennessee. They will never agree to a game at Iowa, and Iowa doesn't hold the allure of a Wisconsin (currently) to make it worthwhile for a program like LSU to schedule a couple neutral site games.

Folks, it ain't gonna happen. Iowa looks for programs like themselves...Pitt, Arizona, ASU, Syracuse - those types of programs.

To me (examples), K-State/Kansas, Texas Tech/TCU, Air Force, Boise State, Washington/WSU, Cincinnati, UConn, Oregon State, Cal, Colorado, Temple, Boston College...those are the types of programs Iowa might have some success scheduling in the future. Programs that might be agreeable to a home and home.

Now, if Iowa can run a decade of Wisconsin type success, win a Rose Bowl for once, or make the playoff...who knows.

You'd think that maybe an Arkansas, Mississippi State, Missouri, South Carolina - might give us a shot...but when it gets right down to it, there's nothing in it for them right now, and their programs are greedy (home cupcakes) just like Iowa.

This guy mostly gets it.

But it isn't Wisconsin success that makes the attractive. LSU in no way plays in Madison. But, playing in lambeau, that is attractive.
 
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Now that there are 9 conference games, until ANYONE can figure out how to get the Clowns off of our schedule (HINT - it won't happen as much as I'd like to see it happen), get used to Iowa State and 2 MAC teams. Like or not (I don't) that's reality until something changes.

Barta has already talked about playing numeral site games, so long as the take is the same of a home game.
 
So Iowa would have had no chance? What are you arguing? Regardless of TOP, whisky made a lot of mistakes, like the pick 6 you mentioned, and the pick in the end zone.
If Wiscy comes to Kinnick thinking they can play 8 in the box all day and blitz the linebackers every other play - and win - they may be in for a rude awakening.

LSU is overrated and so one-sided on offense it probably took the Badger DC about ten minutes to come up with a game plan to stop them. Good luck with that against a balanced offense.
 
Barta has already talked about playing numeral site games, so long as the take is the same of a home game.

Bingo. It really is all about money.

I'm betting having these 2 games neutral satisfied both LSU and Wisconsin financially to approve the series. It also takes TV to make that happen.

You think OU plays Houston without Advocare throwing their money into the mix? Make no mistake, OU most likely made MORE money than they do against a patsy at home. No other way that game happens.

No matter how we may dislike it, the plain fact is nationally, the average non-Wisconsin/LSU fan will be much more likely to watch and attend a Wisconsin/LSU, but is more apt to not watch and attend an Iowa/LSU for example.

The only way Iowa against anybody fills a northern NFL stadium is if it's in Chicago or KC against the biggest of the big, and an SEC team ain't gonna come up there to play us cause they know it won't be as financially viable as it would for against a Wisconsin overall.

Play nearer to their place. sure - in a one game deal. More likely to fill the stadium with their own fans - but again, the numbers have to satisfy them AND Iowa...and I would bet when it gets right down to it, they would be satisfied, but Iowa won't (by being forced to take less to get the game scheduled).

Iowa would lose money to do this compared to scheduling a bunny at home. Even with the B10N money, Iowa can't afford to do this. Not when you're building a new practice facility and a new weight room and a new this and a new that just to keep pace facilities-wise with the other big boys (for recruiting).


This also plays into why Iowa has trouble even scheduling home and home against "level competition". To them (and Iowa)...in their eyes do they improve their schedule against an Iowa or schedule a patsy at home? A lot of schools financially need that patsy at home every year, as Iowa does.

There's a financial reason why even the biggies of the SEC schedules FCS and lower tier FBS at home every year - multiple times. They need the money, too.

Alabama plays Western Kentucky, Kent State, and Tennessee-Chattanooga this year. LSU plays Jacksonville State, Southern Miss and South Alabama this year. Florida plays UMass, North Texas, and Presbyterian this year. 90k in the stands in what amounts to being practices for them.

Sure is nice to have that 4th non-con to make playing one good opponent every year in the non-con work. Yet B10 teams are now forced into a) one less home conference game, and b) 1 less opportunity to both fill the cash registers at home AND play a tougher non-con. Which means the big name B10 schools have the advantage over say an Iowa in that regard.

Like a Wisconsin for example.
 
If Wiscy comes to Kinnick thinking they can play 8 in the box all day and blitz the linebackers every other play - and win - they may be in for a rude awakening.
That strategy held us to 221 yards last year. What has changed? Our OTs got feasted on against good pass rushers all of last year and we currently only have one reliable receiving threat. We will need to show improvement in both of those aspects in order to beat stacked boxes
 
That strategy held us to 221 yards last year. What has changed? Our OTs got feasted on against good pass rushers all of last year and we currently only have one reliable receiving threat. We will need to show improvement in both of those aspects in order to beat stacked boxes
I said they 'may' be in for a rude awakening. ;)

What has changed? It will be in Kinnick. It might not be as windy. CJ is older, wiser and hopefully healthier.

I don't see anyone blowing out the stinkin' Badgers, but if the Hawks take care of the ball I think they win.
 
I said they 'may' be in for a rude awakening. ;)

What has changed? It will be in Kinnick. It might not be as windy. CJ is older, wiser and hopefully healthier.

I don't see anyone blowing out the stinkin' Badgers, but if the Hawks take care of the ball I think they win.
I was at that game down near field level and it was not very windy. Slight breeze, but pretty much your average day in Iowa City. Wisky still passed for 234. The impact of the weather was way overblown in that game.

I don't disagree on the last part at all. That's pretty much how we win 95% of our games.
 
All I'm saying is that I don't think Iowa could have stopped a good running team last Saturday.

I was surprised that the tackles seemed to get pushed back. Hesse was out and I have to believe the coaches think he's a better run defender than his replacements. I think Jewell is a future All American and him being out was by far the biggest factor in Miami's offense moving the ball better than I had expected. Taylor didn't have his best game.

Fournette ran for 138 yards against last year's #4 rush defense. They may not be that elite this year, but I bet they're up there. I think Wisconsin's rush D looked better than ours last week. Had Iowa played LSU, LSU would have had an impressive day of running. Obviously, just my opinion.
 
Barta has already talked about playing numeral site games, so long as the take is the same of a home game.

Heard on local radio, that Georgia and North Carolina were each paid $4 million for that game in Atlanta.
Tennessee and Virginia Tech are each being paid $7 million for the game in Bristol, this Saturday.

These are crazy numbers thrown out for neutral site games.
Love to see a B1G-SEC game in Lambeau every year.
 
This guy mostly gets it.

But it isn't Wisconsin success that makes the attractive. LSU in no way plays in Madison. But, playing in lambeau, that is attractive.


It's all about the Benjamins folks. Make no mistake. Money talks, Bullsh!t walks.
 
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