Iowa really is a great place to live. One the lowest cost of living!!!

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

Maybe it's not the place for you and your haircut.

Hey, how do you know about my haircut?

 

[Joes Place]

Is there anything wrong with that?

Apparently not for WDDT.

 

[TornadoHawk93]

Where has fraud indeed found and “fraud” to date? To my knowledge they have not, yet. Remember, all tge are expenses funded by USAid were passed via Congress.

Come on......everyone knows BOTH sides have been caught doing something. Google is your friend. Just one example:

2024 Presidential Election:

• Bridgeport, Connecticut: Five individuals, including three City Council members and a local Democratic Party leader, were charged with absentee ballot tampering during the mayoral primary. Surveillance footage showed multiple instances of ballots being illegally deposited into collection boxes, leading to a court-ordered rerun of the elections.
  apnews.com

 

[TornadoHawk93]

I do, because the Heritage Foundation and a Presidential Committee BOTH found very little.

Holy Moly---

TX alone had EIGHT cases of Voter Impersonation at the polls from 1982 thru 2024.
That's ALMOST ONE PER ELECTION!!!!!

We need to totally spend millions on Voter ID cards!!! 🙄

(FYI: Iowa had ZERO cases)

Please provide proof of your cost claim. LOL!!

 

[TornadoHawk93]

LOLWUT?

You are the one that wants to add unnecessary layers of bureaucracy to voting.

Now it is layers? Please provide evidence of these many layers.

 

[TornadoHawk93]

Yes.

In-person voter fraud has been demonstrated to be in the "10-20 incidents" range.
Creating an entire bureaucracy around "Voter ID", which will need to be re-issued EVERY TIME someone moves, is married or divorced, will "fix" a problem that is practically non-existent.

Far BETTER solution is ensuring people are not "double-registered" in two precincts or states (which can be checked by public databases of info) and verification of legit registrations.

I guess we should just stop reissuing drivers licenses because it is clearly above our ability as a country to do so, and of course it cost way too much.

 

[TornadoHawk93]

How is it "FREE", when it will cost billions to administer and maintain?

Where are your cost numbers from again? I have yet to see those. LOL!!

 

[TornadoHawk93]

This $$ has all been approved by Congress…and a lot of the “discoveries” being banned about are nothing but half-truths and falsehoods…but the make great headlines!
Some waste….yep probably…. Fraud…. Nit much

Really? So you don't think there is much of a chance at DOGE finding fraud occuring because all the money was approved by Congress.....and because of that, there simply is not really much fraud going on.

• The COVID-19 relief programs saw billions lost to fraud due to hastily implemented assistance programs. This spending was approved by Congress.
• The Pentagon has repeatedly failed audits, raising concerns about unaccounted spending. Their spending is approved by Congress
• The IRS and Social Security Administration have reported cases of fraudulent claims and identity theft. Their spending is approved by Congress

 

[Joes Place]

2024 Presidential Election:

• Bridgeport, Connecticut: Five individuals, including three City Council members and a local Democratic Party leader, were charged with absentee ballot tampering during the mayoral primary.

And Voter ID would have address this.......how???

 

[Joes Place]

Now it is layers?

Yep

You need to first ISSUE IDs
Then you have to RE-ISSUE ones to people that move
You will need a PROCESS if they do not have their ORIGINAL ID to de-certify it (meaning, when people USE an ID at an election station, they cannot just "look" at it, they'll need to VERIFY it is still valid and not superseded by a RE-ISSUED one)
You have to RE-ISSUE ones to people that marry or change their names
You have to RE-ISSUE ones to people who lose the ID or have it stolen (which means now you have to TRACK and ensure the LOST ID is never used)

Many many more permutations of nonsense here.

 

[Joes Place]

Really? So you don't think there is much of a chance at DOGE finding fraud

No.

Very little. They have ZERO "auditors" running the show. A bunch of teenage techies have zero experience in identifying fraud.

 

[Joes Place]

Where are your cost numbers from again?

Google.

Go look at what your Driver's license costs, because the individual costs will be similar.

 

[Joes Place]

I guess we should just stop reissuing drivers licenses

Why?

We've used those for years.
And you can write-in a new name or address on the back of them w/o needing a new one.