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Iowa Republicans Advance Bill to Make Bringing Children to Drag Shows a Felony

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Iowa Republicans have advanced a bill that would make bringing children to drag shows a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine between $1,025 and $10,245.

House Study Bill 158 also states that businesses could be fined $10,000 for allowing minors to attend drag performances, including “story hours.”

Anyone over 18 who brings a minor to a drag show would be guilty of a class “D” felony. A parent or legal guardian bringing a child to a drag show may face civil action of $10,000 to $50,000 for each violation of the law.

Opponents of the bill argued that the language is too vague and could make it a crime for someone who identifies as “transgender” to speak in front of anyone under 18.

The bill defines a “drag show” as any performance where the performer “exhibits a gender identity that is different than the performer’s gender assigned at birth.” This will include clothing, makeup, or any “other gender signifiers.”

The law will apply to any performance where “The performer sings, lip-syncs, dances, reads, or otherwise performs before an audience for entertainment, whether or not performed for payment.”

Dozens of protesters gathered outside during the vote on Tuesday, with many chanting “trans rights” and “drag is not a crime.”

Republican Rep. Helena Hayes said the bill will be tweaked so children are not banned from genuine art performances.

“You cannot say that if we want to address the content of drag performances, that automatically makes us anti-trans,” Hayes said, according to a report from the Des Moines Register.

“This is not about banning drag shows for adults,” Oliver Bardwell, with Iowans For Freedom, said. “It’s not about stifling freedom of expression. It’s about keeping adult content where it belongs: With adults.”

 
For a person singing and dancing in fabric sewn together differently than their biological sex? Okay, Nazi dork.
That's not normal and the living situation and child well being should at minimum be looked in to.

There's also a difference between a "drag show" and a performance where some people happen to be dressed for roles of the opposite sex, these are very different things.

But I probably shouldn't have replied, you're very obviously unhinged.
 
That's not normal and the living situation and child well being should at minimum be looked in to.

There's also a difference between a "drag show" and a performance where some people happen to be dressed for roles of the opposite sex, these are very different things.

But I probably shouldn't have replied, you're very obviously unhinged.
Out president is a rapist. Our governor is a drunk driver. Those are the people we need to keep our kids from.
 
Because the other 14 page thread wasn't enough?

No. Asshole Rs are moving forward with this. It clearly isn't enough.
 
So it’s ok to show a kid R rated material, but the minute someone dresses in drag it’s a felony? That is ridiculous.

I could understand if you made a law that said it is illegal to take kids to something that verbally or visually describe, in graphic detail, sexual acts regardless of the sexes of the people involved. But to single out people who may not have any sexual content in their show at all simply because they are identifying as a different sex or wearing different clothes? That is just being dumb and mean.
 
So it’s ok to show a kid R rated material, but the minute someone dresses in drag it’s a felony? That is ridiculous.

I could understand if you made a law that said it is illegal to take kids to something that verbally or visually describe, in graphic detail, sexual acts regardless of the sexes of the people involved. But to single out people who may not have any sexual content in their show at all simply because they are identifying as a different sex or wearing different clothes? That is just being dumb and mean.
This law is being written and supported by people who likely have never been a drag show.
 
Just imagine gay karaoke night.

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That's not normal and the living situation and child well being should at minimum be looked in to.

There's also a difference between a "drag show" and a performance where some people happen to be dressed for roles of the opposite sex, these are very different things.

But I probably shouldn't have replied, you're very obviously unhinged.
I’m unhinged, says the Nazi who wants CPS called in for parents looking at men wearing cloth stitched together differently and playing women. Republicans would have shut down any of Shakespeare’s original Globe Theater productions too. What dumbass lunatics.
 
Honestly if you're a parent who takes a kid under the age of a out 15 to a drag show you should at minimum receive a visit from child protective services and brief investigation.
How many drag story hours have you been to? Or any drag show at all? While it's not something we go to regularly, I assure you it's nothing worse than a guy in a dress, standing in front of a congregation, singing show tunes with audience participation, and trying to get the audience to donate money.
 
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That's not normal and the living situation and child well being should at minimum be looked in to.

There's also a difference between a "drag show" and a performance where some people happen to be dressed for roles of the opposite sex, these are very different things.

But I probably shouldn't have replied, you're very obviously unhinged.
What is that difference and how is that addressed in the bill we're discussing?
 
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How many drag story hours have you been to? Or any drag show at all? While it's not something we go to regularly, I assure you it's nothing worse than a guy in a dress standing in front of a congregation, signing show tunes with audience participation, and trying to get the audience to donate money.
It sends the wrong message to kids, keep them away from the garbage.
 
What is that difference and how is that addressed in the bill we're discussing?
Re the bill... I'm not commenting on that other than to say it's bound to cause more harm than good and I wouldn't have a law about it at all. I assume there's already laws on the books related to exposing children to live nudity? I'd let those laws be applied to drag shows that are so extreme where nudity is a part.

Otherwise I'd simply encourage the public to report instances where children are being exposed to wildly age inappropriate entertainment to child services, and they can look into it. I don't need a well defined law to tell me the difference between parents who took their kids to an alternate form of entertainment to expose them to something different and parents who really are providing their kids with an environment detrimental to their development. Child services operates in that gray area. Let them do their job. If down the road this is an actual problem (I doubt it is), then they can look at what penalties if any should apply then.
 
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Re the bill... I'm not commenting on that other than to say it's bound to cause more harm than good and I wouldn't have a law about it at all. I assume there's already laws on the books related to exposing children to live nudity? I'd let those laws be applied to drag shows that are so extreme where nudity is a part.

Otherwise I'd simply encourage the public to report instances where children are being exposed to wildly age inappropriate entertainment to child services, and they can look into it. I don't need a well defined law to tell me the difference between parents who took their kids to an alternate form of entertainment to expose them to something different and parents who really are providing their kids with an environment detrimental to their development. Child services operates in that gray area. Let them do their job. If down the road this is an actual problem (I doubt it is), then they can look at what penalties if any should apply then.
So you denounce the bill as well. Good to know. Your posts haven't reflected that until now.
 
Honestly if you're a parent who takes a kid under the age of a out 15 to a drag show you should at minimum receive a visit from child protective services and brief investigation.
While I don’t disagree per se, it becomes a slippery slope making something like that a felony.

Let’s also be honest here: the real concern has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with pandering to bigots. Any reasonably intelligent person should be able to see that.
 
While I don’t disagree per se, it becomes a slippery slope making something like that a felony.

Let’s also be honest here: the real concern has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with pandering to bigots. Any reasonably intelligent person should be able to see that.

And you've stumbled upon the problem. Welcome to Ioway!
 
It sends the wrong message to kids, keep them away from the garbage.
Yet another illiterate post from Rico Scurvy that lacks substance and adherence to basic grammar that should have been learned in 6th grade.

I am honestly amazed, although I shouldn’t be, at how pervasive atrocious grammar is among the MIB in which almost none of them seem capable of constructing basic sentences without simple fragment or comma splice errors. I only mention this since so many act all concerned about the well being of children and yet seem so hellbent on ensuring future generations are stupid, uninformed, and largely illiterate.

Rico Scurvy, you suck, broski. Think of the children for crying out loud! 😝
 
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While I don’t disagree per se, it becomes a slippery slope making something like that a felony.

Let’s also be honest here: the real concern has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with pandering to bigots. Any reasonably intelligent person should be able to see that.
I honestly see it as exactly opposite. It IS about protecting children. Why do drag shows need children as an audience?
 
I honestly see it as exactly opposite. It IS about protecting children. Why do drag shows need children as an audience?
Why do any shows need children as an audience?

Are you equally outraged at dance and beauty competitions that have children dressed and made up like adults?
 
That's not normal and the living situation and child well being should at minimum be looked in to.

There's also a difference between a "drag show" and a performance where some people happen to be dressed for roles of the opposite sex, these are very different things.

But I probably shouldn't have replied, you're very obviously unhinged.
So give us a legal definition of the difference. Something that a parent could understand.
 
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While I don’t disagree per se, it becomes a slippery slope making something like that a felony.

Let’s also be honest here: the real concern has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with pandering to bigots. Any reasonably intelligent person should be able to see that.
Yeah I don't support a law. That's a ridiculous political play for something that isn't a big enough problem to warrant time wasted.
 
That's not normal and the living situation and child well being should at minimum be looked in to.

There's also a difference between a "drag show" and a performance where some people happen to be dressed for roles of the opposite sex, these are very different things.

But I probably shouldn't have replied, you're very obviously unhinged.
I would argue that we need to look into the lifestyles of straight white men who think their world view should be thrust upon everyone else like it has been for centuries, leading to mayhem and destruction. Clearly you’re bad at history.
 
I honestly see it as exactly opposite. It IS about protecting children. Why do drag shows need children as an audience?
I said I agree in principle. Children don’t belong at drag shows. But it becomes a slippery slope when it’s not clearly defined. For example, one of the teachers at my school is a transgender man. Since he went from female to male it’s probably not as big of an issue in some people’s minds compared to the alternative, but you can see where I am going with this.

There is nothing suggestive or sexual about anything he does. He’s a normal human being and a good teacher. If we were in Iowa, would this bill open the door for him to be targeted simply because he’s a transgender man and a teacher?
 
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