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Iowa State deserves to win this game…

Gill, Vander Zee, Ostrenga, Lechey, and Johnson are the brightest spots. But our OLine has proven they are just not good, and Cade continues to underthrow passes.
 
Iowa is not a legit top 25 team. Coaching in-game decisions continue to be terrible. The OL is not good enough. Quarterback is not good enough. And the Iowa secondary is not good enough.

Congratulations Iowa State. They deserve this win.
Agreed! I believe they are the better program. Better offense that isn’t stuck in 1987. Better qb play. We have the same dog shit offense we’ve had for the past 10+ years.
 
Gill, Vander Zee, Ostrenga, Lechey, and Johnson are the brightest spots. But our OLine has proven they are just not good, and Cade continues to underthrow passes.
His arm is an entry level BB Gun vs a rifle.
 
Mac is not good. Short, slow, weak arm.

Kirk needs to go.
Yeah, I think it is time for Kirk to retire after this season. No one knows how the season plays out, but even if Iowa catches fire and goes on to win 10+ games, the game has still passed him by. How much longer can he continue to coach at a high level?

It is probably time for the next chapter of Iowa football. The job is attractive enough to someone who can modernize Iowa football to compete in the new Big Ten. I just don’t see Kirk ball chugging along much longer in the new conference.

Iowa might be lucky to go 7-5 this season.
 
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Iowa is not a legit top 25 team. Coaching in-game decisions continue to be terrible. The OL is not good enough. Quarterback is not good enough. And the Iowa secondary is not good enough.

Congratulations Iowa State. They deserve this win.
I love the Hawks and am an optimist, but I can not find much fault in this post. Maybe a 25 team, but not a top 15. I can not understand the offensive second half play calling. The OL is not up to standards given their experience and years in the program. QB is fine if he is surrounded by top level talent at every position. (but Lester has had little time and recruiting there) Our secondary is fine. Gave up some and I knew they would against a good passing team, which is why we needed to keep the foot on the gas on offense and just could not get it done. Gotta score more then 19 points.
 
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Agreed! I believe they are the better program. Better offense that isn’t stuck in 1987. Better qb play. We have the same dog shit offense we’ve had for the past 10+ years.
I wouldn’t say better program right now, but there could easily be a changing of the guard if Kirk insists on hanging on too long.

While Iowa has upgraded skill position players, they still do not have receivers who have breakaway speed or who can make a play going up over a DB. The talent level at the wide receiver position and quarterback position is night and day between Iowa State and Iowa.

I think you also saw how the Iowa defense, while fundamentally solid, is not invincible. Their secondary has holes and the DL started to get manhandled a little in that second half by what should have been a weak OL.

The other issue is recruiting. Kirk just can’t recruit enough athletes to compete at a high level as far as competing at a top 25 level.. The game has changed. You have to have speed and talent at the WR position, and Iowa just doesn’t have that. You also have to have a very talented quarterback with mobility, and needless to say Iowa putting all their eggs in the Cade McNamara basket has been a total failure.

Get the right coach and bring some new life into the program and you might actually be able to put some NIL money to good use. As it is, Iowa has a lame duck as a head coach. And, from what I saw, Iowa State has the better team, once they figured out how to stop the Iowa offense and expose the Iowa secondary on defense.

Unfortunately, there are too many crusty old farts in the Iowa fan base who are petrified of change and too many black athletes.
 
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It was pretty clear towards the end of the 3rd quarter that they were playing better on both sides of the ball. I think the better team won today. We got lucky that they started the game sh**ing the bed and turning it over
 
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I love the Hawks and am an optimist, but I can not find much fault in this post. Maybe a 25 team, but not a top 15. I can not understand the offensive second half play calling. The OL is not up to standards given their experience and years in the program. QB is fine if he is surrounded by top level talent at every position. (but Lester has had little time and recruiting there) Our secondary is fine. Gave up some and I knew they would against a good passing team, which is why we needed to keep the foot on the gas on offense and just could not get it done. Gotta score more then 19 points.
Sorry, but Cade is most certainly not fine. In just two games he's made numerous late, and short throws. Almost all his throws over 10 yards are one or the other or both. Even with line play, he could easily have three more TDs this year, but by the time he decides to throw the ball he doesn't have the arm to get it there.
 
They weren’t the better team pretty even actually but you can’t win with a QB who can run or throw and a coach that thinks it’s 1970
 
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No, ISU absolutely didn't deserve shit
They outplayed Iowa in the second half and didn’t make one coaching gaffe after the next like Iowa did.

As bad as clock management was at the end of the first half and the play calling at the goal line, and even as bad of a decision as it was to go for two halfway through the 3rd quarter, the worst decision of all was after getting the ball back in your opponent’s territory after a muffed punt and having a chance to put the game out of reach, the first play from scrimmage is a designed rollout in which a quarterback with a weak arm has to throw back across his body to the other side of the field to a completely blanketed TE, giving Iowa State a gift of an INT that absolutely turned the momentum of the game.

So, yeah, I would say Iowa deserved to lose and Iowa State deserved to win. They made the plays they needed to at the end of the game and capitalized on Iowa’s mistakes. Amazingly, Iowa stayed in their base defense, even on the final Iowa State drive, and left the deep third of the field completely wide open for Iowa State to throw a pass down the sideline with tons of green in front of the receiver to pile up a lot of YAC, putting them in field goal range. I mean, JFC, you know Iowa State has no timeouts to work with, you would think if you were halfway smart you would have the sidelines blanketed and force every throw underneath over the middle.
 
They outplayed Iowa in the second half and didn’t make one coaching gaffe after the next like Iowa did.

As bad as clock management was at the end of the first half and the play calling at the goal line, and even as bad of a decision as it was to go for two halfway through the 3rd quarter, the worst decision of all was after getting the ball back in your opponent’s territory after a muffed punt and having a chance to put the game out of reach, the first play from scrimmage is a designed rollout in which a quarterback with a weak arm has to throw back across his body to the other side of the field to a completely blanketed TE, giving Iowa State a gift of an INT that absolutely turned the momentum of the game.

So, yeah, I would say Iowa deserved to lose and Iowa State deserved to win. They made the plays they needed to at the end of the game and capitalized on Iowa’s mistakes. Amazingly, Iowa stayed in their base defense, even on the final Iowa State drive, and left the deep third of the field completely wide open for Iowa State to throw a pass down the sideline with tons of green in front of the receiver to pile up a lot of YAC, putting them in field goal range. I mean, JFC, you know Iowa State has no timeouts to work with, you would think if you were halfway smart you would have the sidelines blanketed and force every throw underneath over the middle.
Iowa has a competent QB its over. Period. So no.
 
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Sorry, but Cade is most certainly not fine. In just two games he's made numerous late, and short throws. Almost all his throws over 10 yards are one or the other or both. Even with line play, he could easily have three more TDs this year, but by the time he decides to throw the ball he doesn't have the arm to get it there.
He absolutely refuses to use his legs on a throw. Dude is a fade away jump shooter regardless of situation.
 
Iowa has a competent QB its over. Period. So no.
You’re saying Iowa has a competent quarterback or if they had one?

Because, gee, no shit. If only Iowa had Patrick Mahomes and the 2002 Iowa OL. The game would have been different. Amazing.

But that’s not really logical as a rebuttal of how Iowa State outplayed Iowa. Surely, you see that?
 
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