Entitled? You're the guy bitching that the little guy should either get Rose Bowl tickets or quit buying season tickets from the university.
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Entitled? You're the guy bitching that the little guy should either get Rose Bowl tickets or quit buying season tickets from the university.
Thanks wasn't bothered by loss of $20 just got me thinking how much cash they could make off of fans who couldn't go. More I read about points needed I think my odds are lot less of getting tickets unfortunately. Sad thing is I think if Iowa beats Sparty I think tickets and travel cost would be lot cheaper to see them if they went to Dallas for Cotton Bowl.
I don't feel bad for them at all, but if they are I-Club members they still get in.
I was hoping for a win over MSU and a spot in Dallas . . .within driving distance and right now Cotton Bowl tix are like $80 . . .that was my best chance of seeing a bowl game. As much as I think the Rose Bowl is cool, the Cotton seems more affordable for more people
If you just created an account for the first time today and still expect to get tickets, you not only have zero chance to get them, but the University is probably going to ban you from campus for being so obtuse.
I don't know why you say this. There are people who are both season ticket holders and I club members and don't have online accounts (see = old). If you signed up today, and your priority points are linked, and you are a STH/IClub member you will be considered with everyone else.
Why do you think differently? Obviously this doesn't apply to people with no points/no st/no membership.
I really just wish my priority points were accurate... I'd still be short of 150, but I'd be a lot closer. Of course this is an awful time to try and get them to straighten out my points, but it isn't something you really pay attention to until you need them.
An "old person" would be calling up his grandkid and asking for help setting up an account, not "jumping on and setting up an account in a matter of minutes". It's science.
Seems many of the same ppl complaining about Rose bowl prices are the same ppl who brag about getting tickets for most home games for $10. Works both ways.
I also wonder how many ppl said they would never invest in Iowa football again until KF was gone attended either the MN game or now want in on the rose bowl. If you are one of those ppl you aren't gonna get much sympathy.
Rose Bowl prices are dictated in the exact same manner as booking flights and hotels but no mention on calling delta or Marriott scalpers.
I also wonder how many ppl said they would never invest in Iowa football again until KF was gone attended either the MN game or now want in on the rose bowl. If you are one of those ppl you aren't gonna get much sympathy.
Rose Bowl prices are dictated in the exact same manner as booking flights and hotels but no mention on calling delta or Marriott scalpers.
I guessed on number of season tickets, so sue me.
You still have it wrong. I never proposed a "did you attend" test. You just made that up. If a season ticket holder has 2 seats, and he buys 2 bowl tickets, he can sell them to whoever he wants. I never said otherwise. The person with 2 season tickets should not be able to buy 4..or 6... or 8 until every season ticket holder has had a chance to purchase an amount of bowl tickets equal to their season tickets. Not all the higher priority folks will buy tickets, thus the low priority folks will get a decent shot. If they are still not all purchased, then you go thru again and the high point people can then buy more.
I also never flip flopped on big donors like you claim. Again, you just made that up.
Not a difficult concept to grasp.
You are flatly ignoring the people who have more than 8 tickets .... so you are now advocating that people with 10, 20, however many tickets should get that many? And that the people with 8 should still get 8?
How does that solve your premise that I quoted above? Your complaint is simple, has been since you first posted it: You want people who actually attended the season games to be able to go over "family/friends" .... hence the obvious implication you want a litmus test.
Your scenario does not allow for more "regular joes" to get tickets than the current one.
Damn, I was really trying to not be obtuse.
In no way shape or form am I 'expecting' to get these tix, I'm just exhausting all options to pull these off at face value before I begin to resort to the secondary market. I'm checking ticket master every so often and have some friends in the LA area looking into it as well.
Other than having a handful of relatives /friends/coworkers who've graduated from the U of I, I'm just one of those sad 't-shirt fans' with no real ties to the school other than pride in being from 'Iowa'. I try to get to a game every year, and the way this season was going I was holding out hope all along that this could be a Rose Bowl year.
About 5 of us back in 91 were all set to go the Rose Bowl (all 21-22, no cares in the world)....couple backed out at the last minute. We said at the time, 'let's just plan on going next time'... well 25 years later, it's finally next time. I'd like to make it work this time, but $800 tix makes it a little more difficult.
You are intentionally being obtuse, which is pretty much par for the course for you. You know darn well what my point is.
The math just doesn't add up to me. So do the 40,000 requests include people's additional requests? For instance I put in for the 2 I could get and then put 4 in the additional section because the rest of my family wants to go and we all share 4 season tickets just rotate the games.
I find it very hard to believe that we have double the allotment for the Rose Bowl then the B1G champ game and yet the min point value is going to be higher. Just does not make mathematical sense.
Why are there several reports that Stanford is given 27,000 and we are given 22,002? Why the discrepancie?
Last point about the numbers. If 49,000 are given to the teams were in the hell are the other 40,000. I can understand that some go to corporate sponsors and others to the ticket packages that deal direct with rose bowl but that might eat up half.
No real point to all this just venting.
I find it very hard to believe that we have double the allotment for the Rose Bowl then the B1G champ game and yet the min point value is going to be higher. Just does not make mathematical sense.
Why are there several reports that Stanford is given 27,000 and we are given 22,002? Why the discrepancie?
Last point about the numbers. If 49,000 are given to the teams were in the hell are the other 40,000. I can understand that some go to corporate sponsors and others to the ticket packages that deal direct with rose bowl but that might eat up half.
No real point to all this just venting.
Wow I spent 10 days in So. France, Spain and Italy -air, meals, transportation with my wife for $1400 dollars less than that.
Fix it by allowing only Gold Hawks to purchase a max of two per seat. Then put everyone else in a pool for the remainder of the tickets.
And Petes sake request more than 22k
Actually the season tickets were way down this year. Lowest in a decade. I think around 35k.
I agree that each of those 35k should get first crack, in order of preference points. Any left over should go back through this circus of a process. These priority points are hell to young people like my wife and I. It's pretty tough to accumulate 150 points by 30 while trying to start your careers and raise a family (and that is even with starting off with the generous60 points we get for both being alumni and letter winners).
Well, what you and your wife have going for you is that you're still likely to be alive the next time Iowa makes this game. The majority of the people near the top of that list won't be.
You'd have to be in the top 5-10% of all ticket holders with that many points.
If you can't get you're request filled, no one will.
Point 1 is pretty simple, obviously a hell of a lot more people are requesting Rose Bowl tickets than they were to Indy. As noted, any I-Club member is potentially on this list, even if they live too far away to have season tickets at Kinnick. You are now taking requests from potentially any Iowa fan that lives anywhere in the country (or world) who might be interested in planning this trip, as opposed to Indy where we never knew for sure until 2 weeks before that we were going, and the pool of interested people was basically restricted to those that lived within, say, a 10 hour drive or so from Indy. There are no such restrictions here as people have plenty of time to plan travel for a significant distance.
As to point 2, assuming those numbers are correct, then it's obvious that the Pac-12 team is allotted more tickets in the contract than the B1G rep is. Why, who knows? Most likely the Pac-12 fanbases being closer, they naturally assume that in a "typical" year, more fans of that school will be likely to buy those tickets than will the B1G fans. Clearly they didn't expect Iowa to be back any time soon.
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They can't. It's set by the contract between the league and the bowl. Every school that qualifies every year faces this same dilemma. This is not an unusual problem to have.
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I don't get why you are confused. This is simple: Many more people want to go to the Rose Bowl than the Big Ten CG. That is the discrepancy. As said above, any I-Club member (thousands in Phoenix alone) can request them.
Now why Stanford has "more", I have no idea, nor do I know whether it is "true".
The other 40,000 go to sponsors/corporations/ticket resellers/groups/etc, just like it does with EVERY other event, like the Superbowl.
What I would be curious about is how well the Big Ten is represented at the Rose each year. Obviously if some schools sell less than allotment there is a problem, BUT, if we always sell out the allotment, why isn't the BIG pushing for a much bigger allotment? Surely they want us to be well represented at the biggest non-playoff bowl.
I do. You feel cheated and feel like you, instead of other people, should get tickets. Which is precisely the problem you are complaining about.
They instituted priority points system a decade ago, it hasn't really changed, nor does it appear likely to any time soon. What a surprise you don't like the system when it works against you.
My main issue is the priority point format. It seems to me 3pts/year of tickets is low (especially when consecutive years is meaningless). Next, 20 points for a letter winner is very "meh" (also I think it is strange that it applies to every sport, seems football letter winners should receive some type of bonus). Finally, in years like this many are frustrated because of all the people that haven't renewed recently, yet are jumping ahead of others for bowl game tickets.
I don't know how to reformat it, but those seem to be the main areas where people take issue. That being said, the almighty dollar rules all. I probably would have upped my ticket donation level years ago had I realized how low I was on the totem pole. Nobody's fault but my own. Now I'll probably just have to spend the "donation" money on secondary market tickets. Oh well...
I just placed my order for 2 on line and it was pretty easy to do. I have exactly 150 points so I will come back on the 14th and let you all know if 150 points was enough to make the cut.
Nope, wrong again. I don't feel cheated. I am well aware how priority/points system works and have no problem with the concept. I have issue with people being able to buy more bowl tickets than they have season tickets. 10 people with 2 season tickets and high priority can potentially tie up 80 bowl tickets. THAT is what I have a problem with.
But you just keep arguing for arguments sake and intentionally missing the point.
Priority is NOT what gets you extra tickets....you realize that right?
You seem to want people with ten tickets to get ten tickets, how is that different?
You realize you are wrong, don't you? Of course you do. Below is a direct cut and paste from the email I received from the University:
Requests will be honored based on the Priority Points System.
Fail again.
Speaking of obtuse.
Ticket PRIORITY is based on the Priority Points System....not the amount of tickets.
Request Limits*: Kinnick Society Gold & Kinnick Society - 8
Champion Hawk - 6
Golden & Silver Hawk - 4
Remaining I-Club Members &
Football Season Ticket Holders - 2
This is current year donation level. A person with 300 priority points who donated at the lowest level gets two tickets. So the people who get 8 tickets aren't those with the highest priority, they are those who donated $15,000 this year.
I'm sure you will admit your wrongfulness now...
Saw it tweeted earlier by Chad Leistekow (sp?) that the University says they've received requests for 43k tickets of the 22k allotment so far, with 24 hours left for season ticket holders to put in requests.
If Stanford doesn't sell theirs, they may get a few more, but I'm guessing plenty of Hawk fans will call up the Stanford ticket office before that happens.
If Stanford doesn't sell theirs, they may get a few more, but I'm guessing plenty of Hawk fans will call up the Stanford ticket office before that happens.
People with more resources pay for more/better service. As in this instance. It's as old as civilization itself.
Anyone that wants better access to tickets can donate more money. Or, you can spend far less on the secondary market and buy the tickets there.
Good to at least have those options, unlike Stalinist Russia where all comrades had equal opportunity to buy nothing since nothing was available.
Exactly, another thing people complaining always ignore is that the demand is FROM IOWA FANS, meaning that when one Iowa fan is "getting screwed", that simply means another Iowa fan is getting the ticket they wanted and were willing to pay for. In simpler terms (seems some on here need that), when one Iowa fan pays $600 for a ticket, the guy who wanted it for $200 isn't getting screwed any more than the $600 guy would if someone gifted it to the $200 guy. Money talks ...but hey, if you can guilt someone in to saving you money, go for it.
Now selling to another team's fanbase is an entirely different and DISGUSTING issue!
Also, that person getting 8 tickets is paying:
$15,000 (minimum) / 8 = $1,875 + $185 PER TICKET when the donation is included. You are simply being outbid, just like on stubhub.
$15,000 (minimum) / 8 = $1,875 + $185 PER TICKET when the donation is included. You are simply being outbid, just like on stubhub.
Requests will be honored based on the Priority Points System.
Doesn't matter what the donation level is....number of tickets is still based on PRIORITY (within each level, of course....that is obvious) I never said otherwise. You helped make my point for me. Thank you. Glad you finally saw the light.
Awhat? Read this slowly: If a person had 8,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 priority points, and yet did not donate $15,000+ THIS YEAR, they do not get 8 tickets. They get two if they donated at the lowest level or bought season tickets.
I'm not sure what you are missing. Ticket NUMBERS beyond 2 are entirely based on donation levels....not priority points.
If the cutoff turns out, in fact, to be 150 priority points. That would mean that every person with 150 points gets the amount of tickets allotted to them by their donation level.
But hell, just by necessity, a person donating $15,000 has more than 150 points, even if this was their very first year of purchase, because by necessity they started with 250 points.
But hell, just by necessity, a person donating $15,000 has more than 150 points, even if this was their very first year of purchase, because by necessity they started with 250 points.
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