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Iowa WBB 2024-2025 Season Thread

As someone noted above it does look like some data from last year is still included. I compared Nolan to HHS last year. For the most part they were pretty aligned, but HHS would have outliers where they were impactfully different. It seemed HHS was generally more accurate.
Score
-24​
-15​

Just did another poorman's scorecard like the one I posted yesterday and gap widen a little more between HHS and Nolan ELO. I'll monitor it over the season to see how HHS and Nolan ELO pans out.
Score
-26​
-11​

The one thing noticed about HerHoopStats is they change the history of rankings at the time that game was played. That's why when I go back 9-10 days the team's ranking are all the same as if no ranking updates happened in that time frame. I did notice HHS changed the rankings on most teams from yesterday. Don't think I like that feature where they change the rankings of past games to what their ranking is today as it can skew who the real underdog/fav was at that point in time. That's just me as others may like past game rank changes for other reasons.

Example:
Iowa may be rated #10 a week ago when they played Drake.
Today Iowa is rated #5.
HHS goes back and chances our ranking of that Drake game to #5 to match today's ranking.
That's what I have noticed on my end without a subscription.
 
#21 Oregon lost to SDSU
#20 NCST lost by 17 to #7 LSU
#19 IL lost by 23 to #14 Kentucky
#18 Ole Miss lost by 13 to #2 UConn
#17 TCU plays #3 Notre Dame on Fri
 
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Iowa with a 92% - 95.9% chance to win from all 3 models.

Iowa projected with a 21-22 point win today by Massey.
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col_iowa.jpg
Rhode Island
Kingston, RI, USA
Iowa
Iowa City, IA, USA
Actual Score00
Most Likely5980
Median5980
Mean58.8380.80
Win Probability7%93%


Iowa projected with a ~14 point win today by Torvik.



Credit to @UptownHawk for providing HerHoopStats line of ~23 point win.
Rhode Island - 95.9% chance of winning; 78-56 (22.6)


Warren Nolan predicts 18 point Iowa win (78 - 60).


Team Rankings:
ELOHHSBTKMAMSTSSRSMAvg Rank
Iowa
15​
5​
19​
3​
7​
28​
4​
11.6​
Rhode Island
117​
81​
99​
150​
159​
157​
103​
123.7​


Rankings Key:

Again, Nolan's ELO seems closest to the average computer model rankings for this game.
 
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Just did another poorman's scorecard like the one I posted yesterday and gap widen a little more between HHS and Nolan ELO. I'll monitor it over the season to see how HHS and Nolan ELO pans out.
Score
-26​
-11​

The one thing noticed about HerHoopStats is they change the history of rankings at the time that game was played. That's why when I go back 9-10 days the team's ranking are all the same as if no ranking updates happened in that time frame. I did notice HHS changed the rankings on most teams from yesterday. Don't think I like that feature where they change the rankings of past games to what their ranking is today as it can skew who the real underdog/fav was at that point in time. That's just me as others may like past game rank changes for other reasons.

Example:
Iowa may be rated #10 a week ago when they played Drake.
Today Iowa is rated #5.
HHS goes back and chances our ranking of that Drake game to #5 to match today's ranking.
That's what I have noticed on my end without a subscription.
HHS updates scores almost immediately and you cannot go back in time and look at ratings for a specific date unless you track outside on your own. Thanks for all of the data.
 
Iowa with a 92% - 95.9% chance to win from all 3 models.

Iowa projected with a 21-22 point win today by Massey.
col_ri.gif
col_iowa.jpg
Rhode Island
Kingston, RI, USA
Iowa
Iowa City, IA, USA
Actual Score00
Most Likely5980
Median5980
Mean58.8380.80
Win Probability7%93%


Iowa projected with a ~14 point win today by Torvik.



Credit to @UptownHawk for providing HerHoopStats line of ~23 point win.
Rhode Island - 95.9% chance of winning; 78-56 (22.6)


Warren Nolan predicts 18 point Iowa win (78 - 60).


Team Rankings:
ELOHHSBTKMAMSTSSRSMAvg Rank
Iowa
15​
5​
19​
3​
7​
28​
4​
11.6​
Rhode Island
117​
81​
99​
150​
159​
157​
103​
123.7​


Rankings Key:

Again, Nolan's ELO seems closest to the average computer model rankings for this game.
Vegas line is Iowa by 24.5
 
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A couple of BigTen teams have been rocked by injuries. I've noticed Cotie McMahon hasn't played in OSU's last three games and is apparently in a boot.
 
Iowa with a 88% - 96.9% chance to win from all 3 percentage models.

Iowa projected with a 16-18 point win today by Massey.
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Iowa
Iowa City, IA, USA
BYU
Provo, UT, USA
Actual Score00
Most Likely8064
Median8164
Mean82.1464.28
Win Probability88%12%


Iowa projected with a ~12 point win today by Torvik.


Credit to @UptownHawk for providing HerHoopStats line of 26 point win.
BYU - 96.9% Chance of winning; 26 point win


Warren Nolan predicts 15 point Iowa win (78 - 63).


Team Rankings:
ELOHHSBTKMAMSTSSRSMAvg Rank
Iowa
10​
7​
21​
3​
7​
37​
4​
12.7​
BYU
75​
118​
84​
74​
70​
99​
93​
87.6​

Rankings Key:
 
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Iowa with a 88% - *98% chance to win from all 3 percentage models.

Iowa projected with a 16-18 point win today by Massey.
col_iowa.jpg
col_byu.jpg
Iowa
Iowa City, IA, USA
BYU
Provo, UT, USA
Actual Score00
Most Likely8064
Median8164
Mean82.1464.28
Win Probability88%12%


Iowa projected with a ~12 point win today by Torvik.



Credit to @UptownHawk for providing HerHoopStats line of ~29 point win. *Think this is an old line from a few days ago and it most likely changed by now. Hopefully they can post an updated line today.
BYU - 97.7% Chance of winning; 86-57 (28.6)


Warren Nolan predicts 15 point Iowa win (78 - 63).


Team Rankings:
ELOHHSBTKMAMSTSSRSMAvg Rank
Iowa
10​
7​
21​
3​
7​
37​
4​
12.7​
BYU
75​
118​
84​
74​
70​
99​
93​
87.6​

Rankings Key:
It’s changed but not much. 96.9 percent chance with a 26 point win. Now number 7 in HHS ranking.
 
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Iowa with a 92% - 95.9% chance to win from all 3 models.

Iowa projected with a 21-22 point win today by Massey.
col_ri.gif
col_iowa.jpg
Rhode Island
Kingston, RI, USA
Iowa
Iowa City, IA, USA
Actual Score00
Most Likely5980
Median5980
Mean58.8380.80
Win Probability7%93%


Iowa projected with a ~14 point win today by Torvik.



Credit to @UptownHawk for providing HerHoopStats line of ~23 point win.
Rhode Island - 95.9% chance of winning; 78-56 (22.6)


Warren Nolan predicts 18 point Iowa win (78 - 60).


Team Rankings:
ELOHHSBTKMAMSTSSRSMAvg Rank
Iowa
15​
5​
19​
3​
7​
28​
4​
11.6​
Rhode Island
117​
81​
99​
150​
159​
157​
103​
123.7​


Rankings Key:

Again, Nolan's ELO seems closest to the average computer model rankings for this game.
I like this. Keep it up.🙂
 
Iowa versus Iowa State Thursday night on the 11th 8:00 PM game. Weather looks to be 30° and eight mile an hour winds so it shouldn’t be too bad standing outside looking to buy. What do you suppose the scalpers will be asking for tickets ? Thanks to you that might know approximately.
 
Iowa versus Iowa State Thursday night on the 11th 8:00 PM game. Weather looks to be 30° and eight mile an hour winds so it shouldn’t be too bad standing outside looking to buy. What do you suppose the scalpers will be asking for tickets ? Thanks to you that might know approximately.
I think you should look at SeatGeek instead of trying to get a ticket outside the arena.
 
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Thank you. Looked at some seats and.WOW!!! $400 -$600 per ticket and those were good seats but not great seats and CC is gone.😲
 
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Team players of the week goes to none other than...

Iowa's 8-0 start lands the Hawkeyes as women's college basketball's team of the week

"NCAA.com team of the week, Iowa finished 8-0 in November, serving notice that the Hawkeyes will continue to flourish even after the departure of college basketball’s all-time leading scorer in Caitlin Clark and after the retirement of legendary head coach Lisa Bluder."

"First-year Iowa head coach Jan Jensen became the first coach in Iowa women’s basketball history to begin her tenure 8-0."


What's glaring omitted in the last two wins (past week) that it was accomplished without top scorer and assist leader Lucy Olsen. Plus, two very rusty and/or less practiced frosh PG subs had taken her place to do it.
 
Tennessee up 7 on Florida St midway through the 2nd quarter. Florida State has 9 turnovers.

Florida St is #1 in TO% on offense
Tennessee #1 on D

Early season cupcakes may be affecting these numbers though.
 
Tennessee up 7 on Florida St midway through the 2nd quarter. Florida State has 9 turnovers.

Florida St is #1 in TO% on offense
Tennessee #1 on D

Early season cupcakes may be affecting these numbers though.
I hope they aren’t making 3’s in Barclay’s and we can minimize TO’s.
 
The girl with the ball in her hand scored 38 tonight, so her going to the hoop figured to be the best play.
Nope. Latson #00, who leads the nation in scoring and had 38 last night, didn't touch the ball during the last possession. #3 Gordon dribbled around, didn't try very hard to get Latson the ball, then then drove the lane for a bad shoot.
 
Nope. Latson #00, who leads the nation in scoring and had 38 last night, didn't touch the ball during the last possession. #3 Gordon dribbled around, didn't try very hard to get Latson the ball, then then drove the lane for a bad shoot.
Ah, my bad.
 
Team players of the week goes to none other than...

Iowa's 8-0 start lands the Hawkeyes as women's college basketball's team of the week

"NCAA.com team of the week, Iowa finished 8-0 in November, serving notice that the Hawkeyes will continue to flourish even after the departure of college basketball’s all-time leading scorer in Caitlin Clark and after the retirement of legendary head coach Lisa Bluder."
Thanks for the article, HGW. Here are the numbers for Tennessee from HHS....Iowa by 4.5, 63% chance of winning at 81-77. Won't be able to post tomorrow so wanted to pass it along today. Thank you for the data you post from Massey, etc.
 
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Computer Models Summary:
Iowa with a 54% - 67% chance to win from 4 percentage models.
Iowa with a 1 - 5 point(s) win from 4 spread models.
Avg Team Rank is #13 Iowa vs #17 Tennessee from 7 ranking models.

A side note to consider is Tennessee has played all 6 games on their home court. Iowa has played only 3 at home, 1 away and 4 neutral games already. This is a neutral site game and could be the advantage we need to get the W here.

Iowa projected with a 4 - 5 point win today by Massey.
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col_iowa.jpg
Tennessee (6-0)
Knoxville, TN, USA
Iowa (8-0)
Iowa City, IA, USA
Actual Score00
Most Likely7479
Median7579
Mean75.5279.77
Win Probability39%61%


Iowa projected with a 1 point win today by Torvik.


Credit to @UptownHawk for providing HerHoopStats line.
Iowa - 63% chance of winning; 4 point win (81-77).


Warren Nolan predicts:
Iowa - 67% chance of winning; 5 point win (77 - 72).


Team Rankings:
ELOHHSBTKMAMSTSSRSMAvg Rank
Iowa
14​
7​
21​
4​
9​
30​
5​
12.9​
Tenn
24​
15​
23​
10​
14​
17​
16​
17.0​

Team Rankings Key:
 
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Computer Models Summary:
Iowa with a 54% - 67% chance to win from 4 percentage models.
Iowa with a 1 - 5 point(s) win from 4 spread models.
Avg Team Rank is #13 Iowa vs #17 Tennessee from 7 ranking models.

A side note to consider is Tennessee has played all 6 games on their home court. Iowa has played only 3 at home, 1 away and 4 neutral games already. This is a neutral site game and could be the advantage we need to get the W here.

Iowa projected with a 4 - 5 point win today by Massey.
col_tn.gif
col_iowa.jpg
Tennessee (6-0)
Knoxville, TN, USA
Iowa (8-0)
Iowa City, IA, USA
Actual Score00
Most Likely7479
Median7579
Mean75.5279.77
Win Probability39%61%


Iowa projected with a 1 point win today by Torvik.



Credit to @UptownHawk for providing HerHoopStats line.
Iowa - 63% chance of winning; 4 point win (81-77).


Warren Nolan predicts:
Iowa - 67% chance of winning; 5 point win (77 - 72).


Team Rankings:
ELOHHSBTKMAMSTSSRSMAvg Rank
Iowa
14​
7​
21​
4​
9​
30​
5​
12.9​
Tenn
24​
15​
23​
10​
14​
17​
16​
17.0​

Team Rankings Key:
Wow. Crazy that they've had all home games. That should help Iowa I would think....
 
Just tracking to see how the computer models adjusted to the outcome.
Seems Sports Reference (SR) model got it right pre-game as all other models predicted IA favored according to ranking.

Pre-TN Rankings:
ELOHHSBTKMAMSTSSRSMAvg Rank
Iowa
14​
7​
21​
4​
9​
30​
5​
12.9​
Tenn
24​
15​
23​
10​
14​
17​
16​
17​
Post Rankings:
ELOHHSBTKMAMSTSSRSMAvg Rank
Iowa
20​
12​
21​
6​
17​
31​
6​
16.1​
Tenn
15​
15​
24​
7​
9​
17​
14​
14.4​

Team Rankings Key:
 
Computer Models Summary:
Iowa with a 73% - 90.1% chance to win from 4 percentage models.
Iowa to win by 7 - 17.4 points from 4 spread models.
Avg Team Rank is #16 Iowa vs #40 Iowa State from 7 ranking models.

Nolan's ELO team rankings closely match AP poll rankings with ISU ranked higher.
However, Nolan's RP predicts Iowa with a 80% chance of winning and 10 point win as well as the 6 other models clearly have Iowa as the better ranked team.
HerHoopStats predicts an even bigger Iowa win by ~17 points. WOW!

Massey predicts:
Iowa - 73% chance of winning with ~8 - 10 point win (~69 - 79).
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col_iowa.jpg
#18 Iowa St (8 - 2)
Ames, IA, USA
#21 Iowa (8 - 1)
Iowa City, IA, USA
Actual Score00
Most Likely6978
Median7078
Mean69.9078.71
Win Probability28%73%


Torvik predicts:
Iowa - 76% chance of winning with a ~7 point win (74 - 67).


HerHoopStats predicts:
Iowa - 90.1% chance of winning with a 17.4 point win (82 - 65).
Credit goes to @UptownHawk for providing HerHoopStats line.


Warren Nolan predicts:
Iowa - 80% chance of winning with a 10 point win (78 - 68).


Team Rankings:
ELOHHSBTKMAMSTSSRSMAvg Rank
Iowa
19​
11​
21​
6​
17​
32​
7​
16.1​
ISU
17​
45​
37​
30​
57​
51​
40​
39.6​

Team Rankings Key:
 
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HawksGone Wild,

HHS - Iowa 90.1% chance of winning. +17.4, 82-65
Thanks for that!

Wow, that's a complete stunner their model has us that much better right now!
Could be they're tacking on ~6 point home court advantage at CHA?
The way one thinks about a 10 - 11 point win vs 17 - 18 is somewhat different.

Iowa vs. Iowa State Prediction - bet365
  • Score Prediction: Iowa 74, Iowa State 63
  • Spread Prediction: Projected spread of 11.1 points
  • Total Prediction: 136.4 total points
 
Thanks for that!

Wow, that's a complete stunner their model has us that much better right now!
Could be they're tacking on ~6 point home court advantage at CHA?
The way one thinks about a 10 - 11 point win vs 17 - 18 is somewhat different.
Iowa90.1%9.9%82.164.8+17.4-17.4146.9
Neutral85.2%14.8%79.766.0+13.7-13.7145.7
Iowa St.78.5%21.5%77.367.3+10.0-10.0144.6
Results above for H/A and Neutral.
 
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Thanks for that!

Wow, that's a complete stunner their model has us that much better right now!
Could be they're tacking on ~6 point home court advantage at CHA?
The way one thinks about a 10 - 11 point win vs 17 - 18 is somewhat different.

Iowa vs. Iowa State Prediction - bet365
  • Score Prediction: Iowa 74, Iowa State 63
  • Spread Prediction: Projected spread of 11.1 points
  • Total Prediction: 136.4 total points
I think part of it is Iowa State is a hard team to assess at this point. Most of their wins are over NET 200+ teams. Here are their results against NET Top 104 teams:

at UNI (69): L: 87-75
vs. Drake (104): W: 80-78
Neutral vs. South Carolina (1): L: 76-36
Neutral vs. Middle Tennessee (60): W: 75-59

If you just look at resume, you wouldn't think Iowa State is particularly close to the Top 25. I think they're better than those results, but we need to see it.

Iowa by the same metric:

Neutral vs. Virginia Tech (54): W: 71-52
at Drake (104): W: 86-73
Neutral vs. Kansas (86): W: 71-58
Neutral vs. BYU (74): W: 68-48
Neutral vs. Tennessee (27): L: 78-68
 
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Cal is pounding Stanford, leading by nearly 30 points. Michigan State beat Cal earlier this season.
And Stanford *should* have beaten LSU. I still don't know how LSU managed to win that game--just lucky.

So what this all means, is that if Iowa beats MSU.... Hmm.
 
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