Is this fool talking about me? "Punch him in the d***?" This is why I only pop in on the message boards once in a while. Probably, even less now.Hawkbuck
Is this fool talking about me? "Punch him in the d***?" This is why I only pop in on the message boards once in a while. Probably, even less now.Hawkbuck
Is this fool talking about me? "Punch him in the d***?" This is why I only pop in on the message boards once in a while. Probably, even less now.
Hawkbuck,Is this fool talking about me? "Punch him in the d***?" This is why I only pop in on the message boards once in a while. Probably, even less now.
Hawkbuck,
When I read through the chain I thought he was referring to Shikreto who started the thread but no longer appears to be on here. Maybe I am wrong but I thought the comment was directed at him not you.
I think everyone appreciated your insight (I know I do).
Probably? So you're saying there's a chance... (although I hope it's higher than the likelihood of this reference landing)Is this fool talking about me? "Punch him in the d***?" This is why I only pop in on the message boards once in a while. Probably, even less now.
I agree with basically all of this. Like you said, it seems like the biggest roster conundrum at the moment is how to get Mallegni minutes when she seems limited to the 4 and what impact that has on Stuelke. I was hoping they could shift Mallegni to the 3 for some of those, but if they didn't try it last night, I'm not overly optimistic they think it's viable.Lengthy thoughts on our lineup after the exhibition:
I'm anticipating an 8 person rotation (9 when Syd gets back).
1: Olsen/Stremlow
2: McCabe
3: Feuerbach
4: Stuelke/Mallegni
5: Heiden/O'Grady
Frontcourt:
If I'm not mistaken, Teagan only played the 4 last night. I thought she might see minutes at the 3 too. That could become an issue if the goal truly is to play Hannah at the 4, because I believe Teagen will prove too valuable to keep off the floor. To free up minutes for both, I think we're going to have to use Hannah at the 5 for probably 10 minutes per game still like we did in the second half last night.
For example:
4: Hannah (20min), Teagen (20min)
5: Heiden (22min), Hannah (10min), O'Grady (8min--split minutes more evenly with Heiden if she's playing well)
It would be nice for Teagan and Hannah to both play 30+ minutes, but that just won't be possible without Hannah at the 5 (or Hannah/Teagan trying out the 3).
Backcourt:
With Syd (and Guyton) out the backcourt is a lot less crowded at the moment. We have 120 minutes to spread around among 4 players, so probably something like 30 minutes each.
1: Olsen (35min), Stremlow (5min)
2: McCabe (25min), Stremlow (15min)
3: Kylie (32min), Stremlow (8min)
It's not really an athletic backcourt outside of Kylie and I think as fatigue sets in at the end of games we're going to be really vulnerable there to faster teams. When Syd gets back it will help a TON with grit and hustle. I know it's been speculated that Kylie would lose her starting spot to Syd, but I think it will be McCabe. Kylie is going to play the Gabbie role and be relied on for her defense. She'll be too valuable in that way... plus seniority. McCabe will still be important though. Stremlow's ball pressure was effective, but it was against a D2 team. If she manages to be that disruptive against better teams I'll be pleasantly surprised. The potential is definitely there but might take her a year to grow into the role (which is totally understandable).
If Levin steps up or Guyton gets back to health, minutes are available now but not sure they will be in the second half of the season.
Yep. Obviously Syd is going to play significant minutes, so that will throw the McCabe/Kylie/Mallageni into some juggling. Jan and her staff will have to make adjustments based on the opponent, but its sure nice to go into games with more size if both Heiden and AOG push for minutes.I agree with basically all of this. Like you said, it seems like the biggest roster conundrum at the moment is how to get Mallegni minutes when she seems limited to the 4 and what impact that has on Stuelke. I was hoping they could shift Mallegni to the 3 for some of those, but if they didn't try it last night, I'm not overly optimistic they think it's viable.
The good news is Heiden, Mallegni, and Stremlow all look ready to contribute. I thought Iowa was being underrated nationally and the scrimmage reinforces that for me.
Kylie gives really good energy on defense ... so I agree with your concern about fatigue among the backcourt.Lengthy thoughts on our lineup after the exhibition:
I'm anticipating an 8 person rotation (9 when Syd gets back).
1: Olsen/Stremlow
2: McCabe
3: Feuerbach
4: Stuelke/Mallegni
5: Heiden/O'Grady
Frontcourt:
If I'm not mistaken, Teagan only played the 4 last night. I thought she might see minutes at the 3 too. That could become an issue if the goal truly is to play Hannah at the 4, because I believe Teagen will prove too valuable to keep off the floor. To free up minutes for both, I think we're going to have to use Hannah at the 5 for probably 10 minutes per game still like we did in the second half last night.
For example:
4: Hannah (20min), Teagen (20min)
5: Heiden (22min), Hannah (10min), O'Grady (8min--split minutes more evenly with Heiden if she's playing well)
It would be nice for Teagan and Hannah to both play 30+ minutes, but that just won't be possible without Hannah at the 5 (or Hannah/Teagan trying out the 3).
Backcourt:
With Syd (and Guyton) out the backcourt is a lot less crowded at the moment. We have 120 minutes to spread around among 4 players, so probably something like 30 minutes each.
1: Olsen (35min), Stremlow (5min)
2: McCabe (25min), Stremlow (15min)
3: Kylie (32min), Stremlow (8min)
It's not really an athletic backcourt outside of Kylie and I think as fatigue sets in at the end of games we're going to be really vulnerable there to faster teams. When Syd gets back it will help a TON with grit and hustle. I know it's been speculated that Kylie would lose her starting spot to Syd, but I think it will be McCabe. Kylie is going to play the Gabbie role and be relied on for her defense. She'll be too valuable in that way... plus seniority. McCabe will still be important though. Stremlow's ball pressure was effective, but it was against a D2 team. If she manages to be that disruptive against better teams I'll be pleasantly surprised. The potential is definitely there but might take her a year to grow into the role (which is totally understandable).
If Levin steps up or Guyton gets back to health, minutes are available now but not sure they will be in the second half of the season.
I agree on McCabe. I thought her defense was still a concern last night.Lengthy thoughts on our lineup after the exhibition:
I'm anticipating an 8 person rotation (9 when Syd gets back).
1: Olsen/Stremlow
2: McCabe
3: Feuerbach
4: Stuelke/Mallegni
5: Heiden/O'Grady
Frontcourt:
If I'm not mistaken, Teagan only played the 4 last night. I thought she might see minutes at the 3 too. That could become an issue if the goal truly is to play Hannah at the 4, because I believe Teagen will prove too valuable to keep off the floor. To free up minutes for both, I think we're going to have to use Hannah at the 5 for probably 10 minutes per game still like we did in the second half last night.
For example:
4: Hannah (20min), Teagen (20min)
5: Heiden (22min), Hannah (10min), O'Grady (8min--split minutes more evenly with Heiden if she's playing well)
It would be nice for Teagan and Hannah to both play 30+ minutes, but that just won't be possible without Hannah at the 5 (or Hannah/Teagan trying out the 3).
Backcourt:
With Syd (and Guyton) out the backcourt is a lot less crowded at the moment. We have 120 minutes to spread around among 4 players, so probably something like 30 minutes each.
1: Olsen (35min), Stremlow (5min)
2: McCabe (25min), Stremlow (15min)
3: Kylie (32min), Stremlow (8min)
It's not really an athletic backcourt outside of Kylie and I think as fatigue sets in at the end of games we're going to be really vulnerable there to faster teams. When Syd gets back it will help a TON with grit and hustle. I know it's been speculated that Kylie would lose her starting spot to Syd, but I think it will be McCabe. Kylie is going to play the Gabbie role and be relied on for her defense. She'll be too valuable in that way... plus seniority. McCabe will still be important though. Stremlow's ball pressure was effective, but it was against a D2 team. If she manages to be that disruptive against better teams I'll be pleasantly surprised. The potential is definitely there but might take her a year to grow into the role (which is totally understandable).
If Levin steps up or Guyton gets back to health, minutes are available now but not sure they will be in the second half of the season.
She had a 3 pointer. Her defense wasn't too bad,Sorry if discussed elsewhere and I missed it but haven’t heard much on Levin so wondering if she played and how she looked? IIRC she sat out some earlier practices.
For those familiar with Bart Torvik's men's basketball rankings/analytics (similar, but not identical to Ken Pom), Bart has added women's basketball to his site (free). Will be interesting to see how things look as the season progress. For now, Bart's pre-season ranking has Iowa # 25.
NCAAW T-Rank - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank
T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.barttorvik.com
For those familiar with Bart Torvik's men's basketball rankings/analytics (similar, but not identical to Ken Pom), Bart has added women's basketball to his site (free). Will be interesting to see how things look as the season progress. For now, Bart's pre-season ranking has Iowa # 25.
NCAAW T-Rank - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank
T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.barttorvik.com
Interesting. He doesn't think too highly of Cotie McMahon.I like our chances to rise in the rankings! We'll have to see how this shakes out during the season on whether we also retain 3 of the top 50 NCAA players compared to the other top Big Ten teams.
Bart Torvik's Big Ten Rankings with Top 50 Player Rankings
UCLA #5
1) Lauren Betts - #30
2) Kiki Rice - #34
USC #7
1) JuJu Watkins - #2
2) Kiki Iriafen - #6
Maryland #14
1) Shyanne Sellers - #40
2) Sarah Te-Biasu - #44
Ohio St #16
1) Taylor Thierry - #31
Indiana #20
N/A
Washington #22
N/A
Michigan St #24
N/A
Iowa #25
1) Lucy Olsen - #4
2) Sydney Affolter - #47
3) Hannah Stuelke - #49
Bart Torvik's T-Rank Player Stats
T-Rank Player Stats - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank
T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.barttorvik.com
Bart Torvik's T-Rank Team Ranking Stats
NCAAW T-Rank - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank
T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.barttorvik.com
Love Lucy. Thrilled she's our PG. But she is not the #4 player in the country. Whole list is pseudo-stat-science clickbait.I like our chances to rise in the rankings! We'll have to see how this shakes out during the season on whether we also retain 3 of the top 50 NCAA players compared to the other top Big Ten teams.
Bart Torvik's Big Ten Rankings with Top 50 Player Rankings
UCLA #5
1) Lauren Betts - #30
2) Kiki Rice - #34
USC #7
1) JuJu Watkins - #2
2) Kiki Iriafen - #6
Maryland #14
1) Shyanne Sellers - #40
2) Sarah Te-Biasu - #44
Ohio St #16
1) Taylor Thierry - #31
Indiana #20
N/A
Washington #22
N/A
Michigan St #24
N/A
Iowa #25
1) Lucy Olsen - #4
2) Sydney Affolter - #47
3) Hannah Stuelke - #49
Bart Torvik's T-Rank Player Stats
T-Rank Player Stats - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank
T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.barttorvik.com
Bart Torvik's T-Rank Team Ranking Stats
NCAAW T-Rank - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank
T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.barttorvik.com
Mm-Hmm, Raygun needs to make a "I Love Lucy" T-shirt.Love Lucy. Thrilled she's our PG. But she is not the #4 player in the country. Whole list is pseudo-stat-science clickbait.
Mm-Hmm, Raygun needs to make a "I Love Lucy" T-shirt.
She's down to #156.Interesting. He doesn't think too highly of Cotie McMahon.
Teagan will split time between 4-3Lengthy thoughts on our lineup after the exhibition:
I'm anticipating an 8 person rotation (9 when Syd gets back).
1: Olsen/Stremlow
2: McCabe
3: Feuerbach
4: Stuelke/Mallegni
5: Heiden/O'Grady
Frontcourt:
If I'm not mistaken, Teagan only played the 4 last night. I thought she might see minutes at the 3 too. That could become an issue if the goal truly is to play Hannah at the 4, because I believe Teagen will prove too valuable to keep off the floor. To free up minutes for both, I think we're going to have to use Hannah at the 5 for probably 10 minutes per game still like we did in the second half last night.
For example:
4: Hannah (20min), Teagen (20min)
5: Heiden (22min), Hannah (10min), O'Grady (8min--split minutes more evenly with Heiden if she's playing well)
It would be nice for Teagan and Hannah to both play 30+ minutes, but that just won't be possible without Hannah at the 5 (or Hannah/Teagan trying out the 3).
Backcourt:
With Syd (and Guyton) out the backcourt is a lot less crowded at the moment. We have 120 minutes to spread around among 4 players, so probably something like 30 minutes each.
1: Olsen (35min), Stremlow (5min)
2: McCabe (25min), Stremlow (15min)
3: Kylie (32min), Stremlow (8min)
It's not really an athletic backcourt outside of Kylie and I think as fatigue sets in at the end of games we're going to be really vulnerable there to faster teams. When Syd gets back it will help a TON with grit and hustle. I know it's been speculated that Kylie would lose her starting spot to Syd, but I think it will be McCabe. Kylie is going to play the Gabbie role and be relied on for her defense. She'll be too valuable in that way... plus seniority. McCabe will still be important though. Stremlow's ball pressure was effective, but it was against a D2 team. If she manages to be that disruptive against better teams I'll be pleasantly surprised. The potential is definitely there but might take her a year to grow into the role (which is totally understandable).
If Levin steps up or Guyton gets back to health, minutes are available now but not sure they will be in the second half of the season.
Like the sound of that.Teagan will split time between 4-3
Clickbait? Interesting...Love Lucy. Thrilled she's our PG. But she is not the #4 player in the country. Whole list is pseudo-stat-science clickbait.
I think it was Stremlow.One player was really shutting down her opponent. I think it was Mallegni. Am I right or was it someone else. I know some on here think Feuerbach is the best defender, but I think this other gal was really good.
Revisiting this after seeing the first real game.Lengthy thoughts on our lineup after the exhibition:
I'm anticipating an 8 person rotation (9 when Syd gets back).
1: Olsen/Stremlow
2: McCabe
3: Feuerbach
4: Stuelke/Mallegni
5: Heiden/O'Grady
Frontcourt:
If I'm not mistaken, Teagan only played the 4 last night. I thought she might see minutes at the 3 too. That could become an issue if the goal truly is to play Hannah at the 4, because I believe Teagen will prove too valuable to keep off the floor. To free up minutes for both, I think we're going to have to use Hannah at the 5 for probably 10 minutes per game still like we did in the second half last night.
For example:
4: Hannah (20min), Teagen (20min)
5: Heiden (22min), Hannah (10min), O'Grady (8min--split minutes more evenly with Heiden if she's playing well)
It would be nice for Teagan and Hannah to both play 30+ minutes, but that just won't be possible without Hannah at the 5 (or Hannah/Teagan trying out the 3).
Backcourt:
With Syd (and Guyton) out the backcourt is a lot less crowded at the moment. We have 120 minutes to spread around among 4 players, so probably something like 30 minutes each.
1: Olsen (35min), Stremlow (5min)
2: McCabe (25min), Stremlow (15min)
3: Kylie (32min), Stremlow (8min)
It's not really an athletic backcourt outside of Kylie and I think as fatigue sets in at the end of games we're going to be really vulnerable there to faster teams. When Syd gets back it will help a TON with grit and hustle. I know it's been speculated that Kylie would lose her starting spot to Syd, but I think it will be McCabe. Kylie is going to play the Gabbie role and be relied on for her defense. She'll be too valuable in that way... plus seniority. McCabe will still be important though. Stremlow's ball pressure was effective, but it was against a D2 team. If she manages to be that disruptive against better teams I'll be pleasantly surprised. The potential is definitely there but might take her a year to grow into the role (which is totally understandable).
If Levin steps up or Guyton gets back to health, minutes are available now but not sure they will be in the second half of the season.
As of last night's game, I say O'Grady gets a few more minutes than Heiden. Heiden just needs a little more time to let the game come to her and lets the game slow down for her.Revisiting this after seeing the first real game.
Here's the minutes breakdown that I proposed:
Guards
Olsen, 35 min
Feuerbach, 32
Stremlow, 28
McCabe, 25
Forwards
Hannah, 30min
Teagen, 30
Heiden, 22
O'Grady, 8
Here's what actually happened:
Guards
Olsen, 35 min
Feuerbach, 33
Stremlow, 23
McCabe, 26
Levin, 2
Forwards
Stuelke, 19 (injury)
Teagan, 20
Heiden, 16
O'Grady, 14
Ediger, 7
Gyamfi, 7
Overall I was right on with the guards. Kylie is way more important to the rotation than in past seaons. We will need her to learn to stay out of foul trouble, especially until Affolter gets back. I anticipate that's going to be hard because she'll have the hardest defensive assignment. I suspect Jan was hoping Levin could have a few more minutes but we didn't maintain our lead enough for that to work out.
I was a bit off on the forwards, and that's where I think things will continue to be most in flux. Part of it is because Hannah sat the entire 2nd quarter (leading to earlier minutes for Gyamfi and Ediger. Part of it is that O'Grady showed she deserves more minutes. She would have played a few more (in the 2nd quarter) if it weren't for foul trouble. Teagen and Hannah are both really good, and I continue to worry we won't be able to have them both on the floor as much as we'd like.
It's going to be very tough to get Mallegni more than 20 minutes if she's limited to the 4. Stuelke can play the 5, but doing that for many minutes will either force O'Grady into a more limited role than she should have or cut down on Heiden's development opportunities.Revisiting this after seeing the first real game.
Here's the minutes breakdown that I proposed:
Guards
Olsen, 35 min
Feuerbach, 32
Stremlow, 28
McCabe, 25
Forwards
Hannah, 30min
Teagen, 30
Heiden, 22
O'Grady, 8
Here's what actually happened:
Guards
Olsen, 35 min
Feuerbach, 33
Stremlow, 23
McCabe, 26
Levin, 2
Forwards
Stuelke, 19 (injury)
Teagan, 20
Heiden, 16
O'Grady, 14
Ediger, 7
Gyamfi, 7
Overall I was right on with the guards. Kylie is way more important to the rotation than in past seaons. We will need her to learn to stay out of foul trouble, especially until Affolter gets back. I anticipate that's going to be hard because she'll have the hardest defensive assignment. I suspect Jan was hoping Levin could have a few more minutes but we didn't maintain our lead enough for that to work out.
I was a bit off on the forwards, and that's where I think things will continue to be most in flux. Part of it is because Hannah sat the entire 2nd quarter (leading to earlier minutes for Gyamfi and Ediger. Part of it is that O'Grady showed she deserves more minutes. She would have played a few more (in the 2nd quarter) if it weren't for foul trouble. Teagen and Hannah are both really good, and I continue to worry we won't be able to have them both on the floor as much as we'd like.
It appears to me that Mallegni would not be quick enough to guard other 3's in the Big Ten. We have a lot more pieces than Iowa has had in a long time, but how to fit them together. I trust Jan and staff to figure it out.It's going to be very tough to get Mallegni more than 20 minutes if she's limited to the 4. Stuelke can play the 5, but doing that for many minutes will either force O'Grady into a more limited role than she should have or cut down on Heiden's development opportunities.
It's concerning, though, that we haven't seen Mallegni at the 3 even attempted in an exhibition game or against Northern Illinois that was never in doubt in the second half.
I agree about the depth of the team, but I still wonder whether, when it gets down to crunch time, there still ends up being a core rotation of 8½ (or fewer) players as it always was under Bluder. “How can so-and-so not get more minutes,” I always ask? But when I lay it out on paper, in a close game, three players are going to use half the minutes (30-35 minutes each) and five players are going to get 15-25 minutes each, using up the rest of the available minutes. Feuerbach this year shows me that for a player to play up to her potential, she needs time on the floor when it counts.Early season thought: this is probably Iowa's deepest team in quite some time.
I agree about the depth of the team, but I still wonder whether, when it gets down to crunch time, there still ends up being a core rotation of 8½ (or fewer) players as it always was under Bluder. “How can so-and-so not get more minutes,” I always ask? But when I lay it out on paper, in a close game, three players are going to use half the minutes (30-35 minutes each) and five players are going to get 15-25 minutes each, using up the rest of the available minutes. Feuerbach this year shows me that for a player to play up to her potential, she needs time on the floor when it counts.
But I could be way wrong.
Date | Loc | Rank | Opponent | Pts, Score | Chance to Win |
Sun 11-17 | A | 69 (I) | Drake | -7.3, 82-75 | 75% |