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Iowa WBB Cinderella run officially over.....

Was bringing back Marshall and Martin the right choice? Martin averages last season, 7.7 pts & 4.2 rbs...Marshall 6.2 pts & 1.6 rbs. With the portal being so guard heavy, seems the opportunity to get more production was at their positions. Continuity & chemistry obviously play a role. Curious what everyone thinks.
 
Was bringing back Marshall and Martin the right choice? Martin averages last season, 7.7 pts & 4.2 rbs...Marshall 6.2 pts & 1.6 rbs. With the portal being so guard heavy, seems the opportunity to get more production was at their positions. Continuity & chemistry obviously play a role. Curious what everyone thinks.
It was their choice
 
Was bringing back Marshall and Martin the right choice? Martin averages last season, 7.7 pts & 4.2 rbs...Marshall 6.2 pts & 1.6 rbs. With the portal being so guard heavy, seems the opportunity to get more production was at their positions. Continuity & chemistry obviously play a role. Curious what everyone thinks.
I do think Bluder is purposefully staggering the fab 5. 2 this yr, 2 next, likely CC the year after. With our relative lack of skills across the board, the chemistry and experience of KM and GM will prove very valuable in limiting turnovers.

Warnock was indeed the best shooter of the 3 seniors but also the worst ball handler and therefore the biggest liability. She also played the worst defense of the 3.

Her biggest strengths (rebounding and 3 pt shooting) are likely to not be an issue for us, I’d say. For rebounding, Hannah and Sydney getting more minutes alone should make up for that IMO. In addition to our 3 starting Gs, we have multiple guards who can step up at the 3. If one of them can shoot near her clip — Davis, McCabe, perhaps Feuerbach even — we should be in good shape.

We start the pre-season with a ranking of #4. I don’t think that’d be the case if we let all 3 starting seniors move on. That kind of notoriety is worth something in terms of coverage and hopefully recruiting. Had we let Martin or Marshall go instead, we may still be in the same boat, but I’d be more worried about replacing their intangibles.
 
If that was the case, we rly should recruit better lol. I think a lot of people rly also gloss over the fact that Iowa to most people is synonymous with what we think of the Dakotas. Not appealing.

People are also rly underestimating the unpopularity of the B1G. All American kids wanna play with other All American kids. The B1G has a reputation as weak for that reason. Maryland fans talk about how they wish they will played for the ACC all the time.

We also don’t have the titles to become a UConn of ours. In contrast, we’ve been third in line behind Marlyland and OSU. I think those are where it starts. Everything else comes later. Things can still change, it’s just harder for us than most.
That’s not true at all. You are the one underestimating the BIG. NOT others “underestimating the unpopularity of the BIG.”

Maryland, Iowa, OSU ALL in the Elite Eight?

Get a Grip.
 
If that was the case, we rly should recruit better lol. I think a lot of people rly also gloss over the fact that Iowa to most people is synonymous with what we think of the Dakotas. Not appealing.

People are also rly underestimating the unpopularity of the B1G. All American kids wanna play with other All American kids. The B1G has a reputation as weak for that reason. Maryland fans talk about how they wish they will played for the ACC all the time.

We also don’t have the titles to become a UConn of ours. In contrast, we’ve been third in line behind Marlyland and OSU. I think those are where it starts. Everything else comes later. Things can still change, it’s just harder for us than most.
You’re so reaching at this point. Yep, nobody wants to go to Ohio St, Michigan, Indiana, Maryland. All amazing state schools, very prestigious, some of the biggest and best schools in the country both academically and athletically. Iowa is near the bottom of the conference academically and still a great school. You’re just arguing to argue now.
 
That’s not true at all. You are the one underestimating the BIG. NOT others “underestimating the unpopularity of the BIG.”

Maryland, Iowa, OSU ALL in the Elite Eight?

Get a Grip.
This year was by far the best year for the B1G in many years. And thank god, I was very happy to see it.

Newsflash: The B1G has a reputation in WBB for getting exposed in the tourney and bounced early. Our last Final Four was 2015 (Maryland’s FIRST year on the B1G lol — before that, 2005!) and the last NC…1999 I think?

As to the other point, all you have to do is count the number of AAs in the B1G and compare it to other conferences.

You are right. I forgot about Parrish’s transfer and Miller. So, unless I missed someone else, the Big Ten will have 4 McDonald’s All Americans in 2022-23. Last year’s Final 4 rosters had 28 McD AAs.

I think Clark has brought a lot of positive publicity to the B1G. I hope it continues to trend upwards. UCLA and USC should help.
 
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Yes. It will. If anyone here actually thinks that is something to be disappointed about, you’re not a fan of our women. You’re a fan of bragging rights.

Just a reminder, this team won the B1G regular season and tourney titles last year and again won the tourney this year. They have beaten Indiana 6 of the last 8 meetings. They beat OSU and MD twice this year, Mich 2 of the last 3 meetings. All of these teams made the elite 8 this or last season (IU made it in ‘21 actually but their entire roster returned in ‘22 and we beat them 3/3 games that season).

IU and OSU maintained the #2 spot in the country most of the season. We were the only team to beat SC in over a year. The first of 15 I think to beat OSU as well. Our run to the NC game was not really that out of left field. We were ranked top 5 in more than one pre-season ranking. We were not a Cinderella. Creighton was the Cinderella last year. Miami was this year. A Cinderella does not start out ranked #4 or #5 and they don’t earn the #5 overall seed.

Next year we will have a much more athletic and well-rounded team. I’ve thought this for over a year now. Our best 3pt shooter was a freshman who rode the bench this season. Feuerbach and Affolter are much better ball handlers. Affolter is likely just as good a rebounder as McKenna, certainly Czinano.

Our 5s are all quicker and better shot-blockers than Czinano as well. Goodman is 6’3, O’Grady 6’4 and Stuelke is “only” 6’2” but promises to be the best of the 3 (yes, undersized posts can be efficient, have you heard of Naz Hillmon?).

None will be be as automatic in the low post as her (yet) but they don’t need to be, the way our offense works. And tbh we relied on her way too much, leading to painful losses at Illinois and MD. If we are only top 15 in offense vs #1, that might be just fine considering so many other areas of our game should improve (some perhaps significantly).

The team still has some gaps — but very few teams dont. Everyone thought SC was the lone remaining invincible team and hell we beat them pretty handily. UConn is likely the only team that we def can’t beat next year — and that’s only if they’re all healthy / at peak ability. LSU’s outlook is TBD as well. If we can hang with 330 other teams, that’s a fun season. Baylor, ND, MD, OSU, Stanford, TN have all been brought down to earth. They’re all just regular teams now, all beatable.

Y’all can keep hating on this team but ESPN already has us at #4 and a 1 seed in bracketology. They think we’ve got some good pieces. If we don’t win the NC, that’s not some massive failure to whine about.
No, I'm a fan of getting revenge and others not getting the last laugh and the fans being left to pick up the pieces in the aftermath once the players are long gone onto other walks of life.................

That's what I'm a f***ing fan of.







That and I'm a firm believer in:

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This year was by far the best year for the B1G in many years. And thank god, I was very happy to see it.

Newsflash: The B1G has a reputation in WBB for getting exposed in the tourney and bounced early. Our last Final Four was 2015, last NC…1999?

As to your other other point, all you have to do is count the number of AAs in the B1G and compare it to other conferences.
For all the B10 bashing, in their defense, they are on the rise and in uncharted waters as a collective conference.

This was the deepest the B10 has been on the women's side in years, maybe ever, and it's not like the conference itself is going back to secondhand dogsh** next year................just sayin.
 
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For all the B10 bashing, in their defense, they are on the rise and in uncharted waters as a collective conference.

This was the deepest the B10 has been on the women's side in years, maybe ever, and it's not like the conference itself is going back to secondhand dogsh** next year................just sayin.
I do think the B1G is on the rise! I hope Iowa is the biggest recipient of that.
 
I have to agree with your assessment given current roster and anything better will be a plus.
Last year they fell short in the tourney, This year they did better than expected, maybe caught some breaks? Next year I think elite eight might be about right. Stuelke gets stronger, and should develop in the off-season and with starter minutes. OGrady will get better with more time on the court, I think Clark and the staff start to figure out her strengths. I also think Goodman will push for time and will surprise a lot of people who didn't watch her play as a freshman. AJ is kind of a wild card, a bit under-sized, but good footwork. The question is the backup 4, can AJ make the adjustment to play there? After a year in the program is Jayda going emerge? Will they get a 4/5 out of the portal that is either so good they have to start over OGrady/Stuelke or find a player that could start someplace else and be willing to come off the bench?
 
Bluder has shown she will stick w/ her starters 30+ mpg. WIth that said, that leaves 2 spots (80min) for Stuelke, Ogrady, Ediger, Davis, McCabe, Affolter, Fuerbach, etc.....I look for Stuelke to play 20+, so we're really looking at 60min of game time avaiable. I'm suprised Wetering is the only one leaving as I just don't see there being enough minutes to keep everyone happy. My worry is that our best 3 point shooter, who spent last year on the bench, will be on the bench a majority of the season....
 
Bluder has shown she will stick w/ her starters 30+ mpg. WIth that said, that leaves 2 spots (80min) for Stuelke, Ogrady, Ediger, Davis, McCabe, Affolter, Fuerbach, etc.....I look for Stuelke to play 20+, so we're really looking at 60min of game time avaiable. I'm suprised Wetering is the only one leaving as I just don't see there being enough minutes to keep everyone happy. My worry is that our best 3 point shooter, who spent last year on the bench, will be on the bench a majority of the season....
I think OGrady/Goodan/Ediger split more time, especially early. The comfort level with Clark/Cinzano combined with the desire to get Stuelke minutes is what kept the 3 backup centers off the court. That chemistry isnt there right now, and unless one of them emerges as clearly dominant, I think she splits time. She also seems to favor offense over defense, so whoever commits to Jansen style post play, and can reliably handle the feed from Clark will be in the game.
 
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