Iowalaws Objective Thoughts: ISU Game

[5Fan5]

I can appreciate differing opinions that actually have thought and reason behind them, but true to form, most Hawk fans just blindly follow every decision Ferentz makes and as long as the Hawks win a game, there can't possibly any room for improvement...even when our schedule to date has been the easiest in all Division 1 football.

Let's get our facts straight. Take away Daniels late game long run, and he was averaging just over 4 yards per carry against the worst Power 5 team in football. Wadley averaged 5.5 yards (plus a touchdown catch), and over 10 against Miami, not to mention he is more of a threat catching passes. Yet Daniels continues to get the majority of carries

Those who said Wadley can't take the pounding and Daniels can...and that's why Ferentz isn't playing our best back as much as he should. Again, get your facts straight. Daniels is the injury prone guy that has been hurt most of his career. Wadley has been relatively healthy. Wadley is bigger than Fred Russel was and Freddy was an every down back. So keeping his carries down because he might get hurt is not a valid argument. It's Daniels that should have carries kept down if injuries is the concern.

CJ DOES look slower out there then last year. Watch the game. I think he only has one run of positive yards so far this year, and it was like a 3 yard gain. Meanwhile, he's been sacked quite a bit. As a result, his rushing yards this year are -30.

Our WRs do have quite a few drops in spite of great placement by CJ. That's just a fact. Why argue with it?

CJ has not stretched defenses this year like most Big 10 QBs have. His completion percentage is great in part because most of his passes are only a few yards past the line of scrimmage. If he's got an NFL arm, we are going to need to use it to keep defenses honest.

CJ got hit 3 times alone in the very last series that he played late in the game (at a point where he should not have even been playing). So yes, he was getting hit...pretty often given the level of competition.

If anyone can argue with any of these facts with actual thoughtful responses, it would be interesting to hear it. Trust me, every coach and professional in business can objectively point out flaws as well as successes after a win. Why can't most people on this board?

I am not sure you would recognize a fact if it were right beside you.

As previously was pointed out, Daniels amassed 61 yards on ten carries over five team offensive possessions in the first half. Evidently, I gave you way too much credit allowing you to attempt to calculate a yardage per carry average. Mark down 6.1 yards per rush and keep it handy.

In the second half, Daniels did not see the ball on Iowa's initial possession. On the second offensive set in half number two, Daniels rushed twice for a net of 1 additional yard. the next possession for Iowa (#8 overall), Daniels added a total of seven more yards on two carries.

If you have any mathematical aptitude at all, you should be able to add the 61 yards from half number one and the eight yards from the two possessions in half number two to get 69 total net yards on now fourteen total carries. I won't embarrass you much further - but the resulting ypc is NOT "just over 4 yards per carry."

Iowa's final possession of the third quarter, Daniels broke off the 43 yard touchdown run with 1:33 still on the game clock.

Just for your benefit, we now have the ten carries from the first half at a 6.1 ypc clip and the four additional carries early in the third quarter for a total of eight more yards and the forty-three yard touchdown scamper. Go slow now. Ten carries (first half) plus four carries (early third quarter) plus one carry makes a total of fifteen carries! Doing very good! Now, sixty-one (yards) plus eight (yards) plus forty-three (yards) is what? One hundred, twelve rushing yards total! Let me help you with the most important calculation... 112 total yards divided by 15 carries equates to 7.47 yards per attempt.

(Why did you feel the need to edit your original post?)

 

[hawkssox1]

Why did I open this thread?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

I see iowalaw as trying to troll a little bit ... but mostly in a way to try to stimulate conversation.

Yup. Made that pretty evident with the stuff he was posting over the summer.

 

[doughuddl2]

Why did I open this thread?

You enjoy seeing the OP get beat down by the other members?
You can't believe how full of sh!t the OP is but keep coming back for a laugh?

 

[ih8iast8]

I can appreciate differing opinions that actually have thought and reason behind them, but true to form, most Hawk fans just blindly follow every decision Ferentz makes and as long as the Hawks win a game, there can't possibly any room for improvement...even when our schedule to date has been the easiest in all Division 1 football.

Let's get our facts straight. Take away Daniels late game long run, and he was averaging just over 4 yards per carry against the worst Power 5 team in football. Wadley averaged 5.5 yards (plus a touchdown catch), and over 10 against Miami, not to mention he is more of a threat catching passes. Yet Daniels continues to get the majority of carries

Those who said Wadley can't take the pounding and Daniels can...and that's why Ferentz isn't playing our best back as much as he should. Again, get your facts straight. Daniels is the injury prone guy that has been hurt most of his career. Wadley has been relatively healthy. Wadley is bigger than Fred Russel was and Freddy was an every down back. So keeping his carries down because he might get hurt is not a valid argument. It's Daniels that should have carries kept down if injuries is the concern.

CJ DOES look slower out there then last year. Watch the game. I think he only has one run of positive yards so far this year, and it was like a 3 yard gain. Meanwhile, he's been sacked quite a bit. As a result, his rushing yards this year are -30.

Our WRs do have quite a few drops in spite of great placement by CJ. That's just a fact. Why argue with it?

CJ has not stretched defenses this year like most Big 10 QBs have. His completion percentage is great in part because most of his passes are only a few yards past the line of scrimmage. If he's got an NFL arm, we are going to need to use it to keep defenses honest.

CJ got hit 3 times alone in the very last series that he played late in the game (at a point where he should not have even been playing). So yes, he was getting hit...pretty often given the level of competition.

If anyone can argue with any of these facts with actual thoughtful responses, it would be interesting to hear it. Trust me, every coach and professional in business can objectively point out flaws as well as successes after a win. Why can't most people on this board?

Here is another fact. You have gone full rahtard, Hupey & Abraham.

 

[J_Heater]

You have to take who posted this garbage into consideration.

I love when people post "I saw a lot of positives" but then go into a novel of rants about how bad we suck.

Pretty sure he is an Iowa State fan. I'm almost convinced of it. Last week was a shit sandwich for the lad.

 

[hawkguy77]

I thought they played great, I really had no complaints. Either you are being knit picky or I'm wearing rose colored glasses.

WOB alert.

 

[HawkAssassin]

"Easiest schedule in D1" - Definite not Iowa State fan

"Without his best run the average would be 4 ypc". True for one at least.

Statistics without longest run:
Daniels 14 for 69 4.99 ypc
Wadley 8 for 31 3.99 ypc

Depth matters and both backs will continue to split reps as the coaches understand that it's a long season and RB is the most physically abused position.

"CJ should throw downfield more" -Guy who thinks big gains in throwing game matter but not running game. Also, why do you want longer developing plays when you harp on and on about the O line?

"Hit 3 times on last possession alone"

The specified drive is from 1:50:00 to 1:53:00 below. 1 Hit.
Please don't make things up like McCarron drops to serve your pessimistic point of view.
Other drives: 3:25 to 5:25 - 0 Hits
10:45 to 16:15 - 1 Hit(designed run)
21:00 to 23:40 - 0 Hits
33:40 to 40:35 - 1 Sack(went to ground on own with no contact)
48:50 to 57:50 - 2 Hits(1 QB sneak)
1:13:10 to 1:14:20 - 1 Sack
1:18:25 to 1:22:00 - 0 Hits
1:26:50 to 1:30:40 - 0 Hits
1:37:20 to 1:38:20 - 1 Hit

He got taken down 5 times out of the 30 or so times he went back to pass. Sometimes, even a defense like Iowa State's can make a play. CJ will not end up in a hospital room from a handful of fairly standard hits.

 

[David1979]

It doesn't make any sense to say "take away a RBs longest run and he had a worse ypc" That is the case for every running back. And those big runs count. Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, AP, etc. They don't run for the same amount of yards every carry. Breaking off big runs is something good backs do.

 

[iowalaw]

Uhh, according to Morehouse and Docherman's podcast, CJ is the second most sacked QB in the Big 10 right now despite the cupcake schedule. Either he's not as mobile as he was, or the OL is not doing it's job against some inferior defenses. There is no other answer.

 

[Bob Sanders Biceps]

1. WR/Vandy - had some great catches and really helped cjs stats out a lot with yards after catch on 2 yrd passes. That td catch was a thing of beauty. But wow, too many drops by a #1 WR on a top 15 team. I'm still not a fan of mccarron. Very small, not real quick, and more drops (he has 4 or 5 in two games). Scheel played sparingly...wasn't he supposed to start? Isn't he our most athletic wr? No Mitchell as 3rd down back? These are things that will be obvious against good teams.

Did you even watch the game? Mitchell was consistently in there on 3rd downs throughout the game.

 

[illhawkdvv]

Why can't we post on here what we see at a game. Not everyone views games through black and gold glasses. Iowa won a game big and did some very good things but against the worst team we'll play this year. This is a message board where fans should be able to come and express what they think is good or bad about the team they love. Come down off the cloud because chances are were going to get knocked off it more than once this year.

 

[hawkinaclownhouse]

Uhh, CJ is the second most sacked QB in the Big 10 right now despite the cupcake schedule. Either he's not as mobile as he was, or the OL is not doing it's job. There is no other answer.

Really -- by NCAA stats Iowa is T8 in B1G Conference

Iowa, Rutgers, and Illinois -- 4 sacks MSU (2 sacks in 1 game for same average)
Penn St -- 5 sacks
Indiana and Northwestern -- 6 sacks

 

[David1979]

Really -- by NCAA stats

Iowa, Rutgers, and Illinois -- 4 sacks MSU (2 sacks in 1 game for same average)
Penn St -- 5 sacks
Indiana and Northwestern -- 6 sacks

But it feels like he has been sacked more so those stats don't mean anything.

 

[David1979]

Why can't we post on here what we see at a game. Not everyone views games through black and gold glasses. Iowa won a game big and did some very good things but against the worst team we'll play this year. This is a message board where fans should be able to come and express what they think is good or bad about the team they love. Come down off the cloud because chances are were going to get knocked off it more than once this year.

You obviously aren't familiar with Iowalaw's trolling.

 

[Eternal Return]

6. RB - wadley is our best back. Anyone who watches Iowa football would agree. Ferentz has a favorite in Daniels, however, and Daniels is going get the playing time. In his post game interview asking about Iowas great 1 2 punch at rb, ferentz praised Daniels and didn't say a word about wadley, even tho Daniels was held in check until one long run at the end of the game.

Watch the first half again--Daniels picked up big chunks of years and Wadley was stifled. Hadley had two great runs back to back in the second half, the second resulting in a TD. But Daniels was more consistent all game and looks faster than he did all last year, has excellent burst, breaks tackles, pushes the pile. His vision is also better than last year (either that or he is finally healthy enough to make the cuts this year). Wadley is a great back, but so is Daniels and Daniels had the better overall game against ISU. Wadley had the better game against Miami of Ohio. But neither one has had a bad game yet. I think it'll be like this all year, with one guy having a somewhat better game at times than the other. You're reaching for straws on this one.