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Iowans will hate what tax cuts bring

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Iowans are going to hate it.



They are going to hate the crowded classrooms, loss of exceptional teachers, and ballooning college tuition. They will hate it when friends and family lose health coverage, their local hospitals slash services or close altogether, and the state does even less to protect our air and water.


They’re also going to hate they were not told the hard truth about tax cuts by the people promoting them, including Gov. Kim Reynolds.


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The truth is tax cuts lead to service cuts. Proponents may be able to postpone the pain by phasing cuts in slowly or filling in with one-time dollars, but time catches up.


Iowa's expensive and reckless tax cut agenda for the wealthy — cuts passed but not yet implemented, and cuts on the agenda for the next legislative session — will save little for the vast majority of Iowans. But the services to meet our common needs and aspirations will be harmed. There can be no doubt.


The reality is that an Iowa governor in 2027 will be proposing a budget with 20% fewer dollars than Reynolds had to work with in 2022. That’s when she signed big tax cuts, mostly income-tax cuts skewed to the wealthiest Iowans.


She has yet to acknowledge that half of the budget — that is, half of all state services — will eventually be gone if legislators approve her next move, to eliminate the personal income tax. That would send 63% of the benefit to the top 20% of income earners.


Yet she insists Iowans are “going to be very happy,” as The Gazette reported in Tuesday’s paper.


Here's the reality:


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• We have big state surpluses because the federal government boosted the Iowa economy with billions of COVID recovery dollars, and state lawmakers for many years suppressed investments in education and other services.


• Few of the new tax cuts have taken effect yet so Iowans haven’t seen the impacts. The 2022 tax bill phases in through 2027, taking massively bigger chunks of revenue each year. State fiscal analysts have made projections. The governor and Republican leaders don’t talk about them.


• Majority lawmakers are literally budgeting for tax cuts instead of schools, health care and public safety. Nearly $800 million from this year’s revenues are being siphoned away from services and into the Taxpayer Relief Fund, which will be over $3.5 billion by next July and is earmarked for tax cuts.


Iowa’s surpluses represent the abdication of community responsibility that Iowans have historically met. Education is a good example. Sen. Herman Quirmbach, an economist, attributes almost one-third of the projected $2.1 billion surplus for FY 2024 to a $685.6 million shortfall in funding PK-12, regents and community colleges below inflation.


As remarkable as that daunting number is the fact that while one state senator is doing the math, legislative leaders and the governor avoid analysis that exposes how surpluses and tax cuts punish public education, among many targets.


By the end of the decade, maybe sooner, Iowans will see a totally different landscape.


Iowans will realize they’ve been hoodwinked, that the tax cuts failed to deliver — as they always do. They’ll see crowded classrooms, closed hospitals and dirty water. Their children? Gone to high-road states offering opportunity to chase their dreams, not just a few bucks.


Mike Owen is deputy director of Common Good Iowa. mowen@commongoodiowa.org
 
You butt****s sit around and tell me we are already horrible at all those things anyway.

I'll take the tax cuts and you'll keep bitching.
I am sure you will. You are like a great many greedy Iowans, where it is every cent for yourself. There just isn’t a lot of graft and waste in Iowa’s budget and these tax cuts mean reduction of services for someone, somewhere. Meanwhile, Iowans are waiting for Reynolds to come up with the financing for her adolescent mental health legislation she championed through the Legislature 3-4 years ago....She ramrodded the bill through the Legislature....but she forgot how it was going to be financed. Probably the Democrats fault!
 
Iowans are going to hate it.



They are going to hate the crowded classrooms, loss of exceptional teachers, and ballooning college tuition. They will hate it when friends and family lose health coverage, their local hospitals slash services or close altogether, and the state does even less to protect our air and water.


They’re also going to hate they were not told the hard truth about tax cuts by the people promoting them, including Gov. Kim Reynolds.


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The truth is tax cuts lead to service cuts. Proponents may be able to postpone the pain by phasing cuts in slowly or filling in with one-time dollars, but time catches up.


Iowa's expensive and reckless tax cut agenda for the wealthy — cuts passed but not yet implemented, and cuts on the agenda for the next legislative session — will save little for the vast majority of Iowans. But the services to meet our common needs and aspirations will be harmed. There can be no doubt.


The reality is that an Iowa governor in 2027 will be proposing a budget with 20% fewer dollars than Reynolds had to work with in 2022. That’s when she signed big tax cuts, mostly income-tax cuts skewed to the wealthiest Iowans.


She has yet to acknowledge that half of the budget — that is, half of all state services — will eventually be gone if legislators approve her next move, to eliminate the personal income tax. That would send 63% of the benefit to the top 20% of income earners.


Yet she insists Iowans are “going to be very happy,” as The Gazette reported in Tuesday’s paper.


Here's the reality:


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• We have big state surpluses because the federal government boosted the Iowa economy with billions of COVID recovery dollars, and state lawmakers for many years suppressed investments in education and other services.


• Few of the new tax cuts have taken effect yet so Iowans haven’t seen the impacts. The 2022 tax bill phases in through 2027, taking massively bigger chunks of revenue each year. State fiscal analysts have made projections. The governor and Republican leaders don’t talk about them.


• Majority lawmakers are literally budgeting for tax cuts instead of schools, health care and public safety. Nearly $800 million from this year’s revenues are being siphoned away from services and into the Taxpayer Relief Fund, which will be over $3.5 billion by next July and is earmarked for tax cuts.


Iowa’s surpluses represent the abdication of community responsibility that Iowans have historically met. Education is a good example. Sen. Herman Quirmbach, an economist, attributes almost one-third of the projected $2.1 billion surplus for FY 2024 to a $685.6 million shortfall in funding PK-12, regents and community colleges below inflation.


As remarkable as that daunting number is the fact that while one state senator is doing the math, legislative leaders and the governor avoid analysis that exposes how surpluses and tax cuts punish public education, among many targets.


By the end of the decade, maybe sooner, Iowans will see a totally different landscape.


Iowans will realize they’ve been hoodwinked, that the tax cuts failed to deliver — as they always do. They’ll see crowded classrooms, closed hospitals and dirty water. Their children? Gone to high-road states offering opportunity to chase their dreams, not just a few bucks.


Mike Owen is deputy director of Common Good Iowa. mowen@commongoodiowa.org
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE all tax cuts!!
 
I am sure you will. You are like a great many greedy Iowans, where it is every cent for yourself. There just isn’t a lot of graft and waste in Iowa’s budget and these tax cuts mean reduction of services for someone, somewhere. Meanwhile, Iowans are waiting for Reynolds to come up with the financing for her adolescent mental health legislation she championed through the Legislature 3-4 years ago....She ramrodded the bill through the Legislature....but she forgot how it was going to be financed. Probably the Democrats fault!
I don't want every cent...just every cent that I've earned for me and my family!!
 
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You butt****s sit around and tell me we are already horrible at all those things anyway.

I'll take the tax cuts and you'll keep bitching.
Hope your health is stable. And never need some of those services. Because the worst case can happen. Go look at GoFund me medical care pages sometime. And yes there are charities to help , but they aren’t nearly enough. There are cracks in the system. Making the cracks bigger isn’t a good thing. Voting for this to spite dumb****s makes u a dumb****.
 
Hope your health is stable. And never need some of those services. Because the worst case can happen. Go look at GoFund me medical care pages sometime. And yes there are charities to help , but they aren’t nearly enough. There are cracks in the system. Making the cracks bigger isn’t a good thing. Voting for this to spite dumb****s makes u a dumb****.
Wait, what? I thought 0bomacare saved everyone????? No?
 
People who think state services can be free are idiots. Sooner or later the bill comes due.

They'll just "privatize" all those services, so you can pay fees to their chosen private businesses. Who will pocket half the funds, and push the other half back to the same GOP lawmakers to keep the system running.
 
They want free services?

Can you provide a link?
Google it up...
And No....tax cuts mean cuts in services! 3 Iowa counties this past year have held special elections to tax residents so emergency ambulatory services (life saving services) could be reinstated AFTET tax cuts reduced revenues where this service could not be provided. Cedar County was one of those counties.
Look it up on your PBS app or You Tube.
You oughtta watch Iowa Press...it’s on every Friday night and Sunday at noon and deals exclusively with Iowa issues. It’s very fair and balanced in its presentation. One of the best local programs offered.
 
I grew up in Glenwood where Kimmie is shutting down the Glenwood Resource Center next year. It was Mills County's largest employer, providing more than 500 jobs to Glenwood-area residents. Some of my best friends' parents have worked there for 30+ years, and one of my dad's cousins has been a resident there for even longer.

So not only are lots of people looking for new employment, but the current residents with severe intellectual disabilities are also looking for new places to live. One of my friends bought a $400k house with his wife a few years ago and now the property next door is housing displaced clients. It's just not a safe situation for either party.

Kim sucks and is only out for herself and her run for VP.
 
I grew up in Glenwood where Kimmie is shutting down the Glenwood Resource Center next year. It was Mills County's largest employer, providing more than 500 jobs to Glenwood-area residents. Some of my best friends' parents have worked there for 30+ years, and one of my dad's cousins has been a resident there for even longer.

So not only are lots of people looking for new employment, but the current residents with severe intellectual disabilities are also looking for new places to live. One of my friends bought a $400k house with his wife a few years ago and now the property next door is housing displaced clients. It's just not a safe situation for either party.

Kim sucks and is only out for herself and her run for VP.
I'm sure the good marxist/socialists on this board would be willing to take them in if it doesn't cut into their drinking/driving and message board time!
 
Hope your health is stable. And never need some of those services. Because the worst case can happen. Go look at GoFund me medical care pages sometime. And yes there are charities to help , but they aren’t nearly enough. There are cracks in the system. Making the cracks bigger isn’t a good thing. Voting for this to spite dumb****s makes u a dumb****.
It isn't about spite. We are currently taking in more tax money than any time in history.

I believe the government is INCREDIBLY inefficient with our tax money. I believe even a basic understanding of money and compounding interest would have people putting THEIR money in accounts to build a nest egg for those events, that do happen, instead of government consistnly finding a way to nickel and dime our taxes to give us back 50 cents foe every dollar we put in and then make us feel good that they were there to help.
 
It isn't about spite. We are currently taking in more tax money than any time in history.

I believe the government is INCREDIBLY inefficient with our tax money. I believe even a basic understanding of money and compounding interest would have people putting THEIR money in accounts to build a nest egg for those events, that do happen, instead of government consistnly finding a way to nickel and dime our taxes to give us back 50 cents foe every dollar we put in and then make us feel good that they were there to help.
How much money would I have to save to build an interstate highway? How about a sewage disposal or water treatment plant? How could I guarantee myself safe air to breath or safe water to drink? Yeah, that damn wasteful government...those bastards.
 
I hope you are joking about me “providing” you a link! Jeeeeebus keeeeerist....I link nothing for nobody....ever! If you think I’m lying, ignore me...if you look it up yourself, you can trust it and the information.
Good luck!
So in other words...you just make shit up!
 
How much money would I have to save to build an interstate highway? How about a sewage disposal or water treatment plant? How could I guarantee myself safe air to breath or safe water to drink? Yeah, that damn wasteful government...those bastards.
Again, Humpty Dumpty, those entities are financed by Federal, local and excise taxes. The reduction of state income tax, has nothing to do with whatever point you're trying to make up.
 
Again, Humpty Dumpty, those entities are financed by Federal, local and excise taxes. The reduction of state income tax, has nothing to do with whatever point you're trying to make up.
Bullshit...
Then there are state roads, bridges, county roads, bridges, water and sewage maintainable, garbage removal and sanitation, taxes are everywhere...local taxes too....
 
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It isn't about spite. We are currently taking in more tax money than any time in history.

I believe the government is INCREDIBLY inefficient with our tax money. I believe even a basic understanding of money and compounding interest would have people putting THEIR money in accounts to build a nest egg for those events, that do happen, instead of government consistnly finding a way to nickel and dime our taxes to give us back 50 cents foe every dollar we put in and then make us feel good that they were there to help.
Every year Iowa should be taking in record revenue. That's how growth works. Problem is that these records aren't keeping up with inflation. Iowa only took in 0.6% more last year. So relative to inflation that's less than the year before. And Iowa is expected to see a drop in revenue when Kimmies tax cuts take full hold.
 
How much money would I have to save to build an interstate highway? How about a sewage disposal or water treatment plant? How could I guarantee myself safe air to breath or safe water to drink? Yeah, that damn wasteful government...those bastards.
There can be 2 truths here.

Yes, we need to be able to pool resources to accomplish those things.


The government is incredibly inefficient with that pool of money.

Remember the 2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill that was passed? As an example, where the **** did that go?

You know how much internet cable you can lay foe 2 trillion fcuking dollars?
 
Every year Iowa should be taking in record revenue. That's how growth works. Problem is that these records aren't keeping up with inflation. Iowa only took in 0.6% more last year. So relative to inflation that's less than the year before. And Iowa is expected to see a drop in revenue when Kimmies tax cuts take full hold.
Grinds your comrade ass, doesn't it! 🤣
 
It isn't about spite. We are currently taking in more tax money than any time in history.

I believe the government is INCREDIBLY inefficient with our tax money. I believe even a basic understanding of money and compounding interest would have people putting THEIR money in accounts to build a nest egg for those events, that do happen, instead of government consistnly finding a way to nickel and dime our taxes to give us back 50 cents foe every dollar we put in and then make us feel good that they were there to help.
People can get sick at any time. Have a child get sick or frankly been born poor to shit parents. If there isn’t a revenue source to fund government services it will end up similar to Kansas or worse. The whole libertarian utopia theory similar to the communist utopia theory are bith figments of the imagination.
There are always inefficiencies in government. We just need to pick the lesser of necessary evils of it. I’ll take the one that produces some grievances over the one that fails at providing necessary functions.
 
There can be 2 truths here.

Yes, we need to be able to pool resources to accomplish those things.


The government is incredibly inefficient with that pool of money.

Remember the 2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill that was passed? As an example, where the **** did that go?

You know how much internet cable you can lay foe 2 trillion fcuking dollars?
Kim “banked” Iowa’s sheared and didn’t spend it as intended....then she bragged about Iowa’s $2B surplus...and is using this “surplus” to cut Iowa income taxes....which in 4-5 years will lead to state budgetary distresses...and cuts in services to deserving Iowans.
 
Kim “banked” Iowa’s sheared and didn’t spend it as intended....then she bragged about Iowa’s $2B surplus...and is using this “surplus” to cut Iowa income taxes....which in 4-5 years will lead to state budgetary distresses...and cuts in services to deserving Iowans.
Deserving? How/why?
 
Again, Humpty Dumpty, those entities are financed by Federal, local and excise taxes. The reduction of state income tax, has nothing to do with whatever point you're trying to make up.
Except these facilities are financed and maintained by state and local taxes...,and cuts in state revenues will put the burden squarely on local and county taxes...the money comes from somewhere...take a tour thru rural Iowa and check out its small towns and witness first hand what can happen when “tax money” disappears.
 
Who complains about this?

What kind of a person is all up in arms about state taxes?

I dont know who can objectively say that the state is in a good place now despite the lower taxes. Is that all it really is to some people? What their tax rate is?
 
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Start with infirmed and chronically ill...the young and the unfortunate..those who have not had “the breaks” of economics fall their way...the people out there Here you apparently choose not to see.
If that's your thing, I'm sure you can pay more for those of us who don't GAF? After all, it's not our fault this is the way we are, right? < Am I doing that right??
 
Who complains about this?

What kind of a person is all up in arms about state taxes?

I dont know who can objectively say that the state is in a good place now despite the lower taxes. Is that all it really is to some people? What their tax rate is?
People who work for a living and are tired of paying for those who don't, that's who.
 
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