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Iowa's 2018 Spring Depth Chart

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/2015/03/17/football-recruiting-iowa-state/24913477/

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...ollege-recruiting-hawkeyes-panthers/24867231/

Why are kids coming to Iowa if they don't have a sincere interest?
Lets be honest, we're talking about iowa...... it's not like we're talking about california, vegas, florida etc
Thank you for the links, but one of them was all about basketball and the other was about recruiting in 2013 when the clowns outspent a lot of teams in recruiting. These links just don’t show me a whole lot.

Also, Coach Ferentz has always run the program like a business and seems to always look to increase revenues and decrease expenses.
 
I honestly believe RSing Nixon is the smart long term move.

The kid had one semester at IW, and played football through it. They're building a future for him, not a present.

When it gets right down to it, getting more 3 semesters in as far as thinking about being able to turn Nixon into a no doubter don't have to worry ever again about schoolwork and still get 3 playing years out of him...as opposed to possibly overloading the kid right out of the chute to where you lose him completely?

I like the move. They are investing in the man he can become, not the football player he might be now. Kirk sees risk here - and we all probably should too as fans knowing his HS background. I seem to recall, the kid had a difficult time in HS to where he had to bust his ass in the classroom his senior year. Schools all over were scared off by his academics, and rightfully so.

Make us all proud, young man.
 
As for AJ...Parker Hesse is a better all around football player than AJ is right now. And given the losses, Iowa's defense needs experienced leadership on the field badly and Parker is an obvious choice to provide exactly that.

AJ is certainly more explosive physically, but I'm betting the "net positive" dictates Hesse needs to be on the field. Besides...who says they can't slide AJ inside some, or at the very least try it in spring? We appear to have playing opportunities there.

And of course, it's a LONG time until games actually begin - who knows what injuries may crop up between now and then? Maybe AJ suddenly becomes the truly better player between now and the opener?

Nothing to see here...be patient, folks. WAY too early to be stressing over this.
 
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My concern is that his grades were evidently borderline coming out of high school, and this is something that should have been shored up last year. Some guys never buckle down and do the work in the classroom, so they can see the field. If this is really no big deal, why is he not eligible? We've sent guys ogg to these Juco's before that have returned, and I don't ever remember any of them coming back, and not being eligible.

He spent one semester at juco. That wasn't going to fix his academic profile.

A redshirt year to get things right is a good thing. He wasn't likely to come in and immediately be a big contributor at DT.
 
He spent one semester at juco. That wasn't going to fix his academic profile.

A redshirt year to get things right is a good thing. He wasn't likely to come in and immediately be a big contributor at DT.


Agree with the first part, disagree with the 2nd. Dude was going to get major snaps for us. He is a different body type and brings a different skill set than the other Dt's other than maybe shannon.
 
So you get panties in a bunch about a depth chart 6 months before the season starts and before spring practice has even started? Got it.

So if a spring depth chart is so meaningless why waste the time and resources to put it together and release it?
 
He spent one semester at juco. That wasn't going to fix his academic profile.

A redshirt year to get things right is a good thing. He wasn't likely to come in and immediately be a big contributor at DT.
I guess I just don't totally understand the situation. Originally he was a borderline case, and supposedly Iowa went to bat for him, and it was my understanding they got him cleared, but just to late to get into school in the fall. The statement then was that he would be good to enroll in January as long as that was his choice at that time. Now were hearing he won't be academically eligible the first semester. I am just concerned. Your right that the redshirt will probably be good for him if he takes full advantage of the resources available too him. I do think he could have played a significant role this season as an anchor DT, especially if Nelson or Ced go down.
 
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My concern is that his grades were evidently borderline coming out of high school, and this is something that should have been shored up last year. Some guys never buckle down and do the work in the classroom, so they can see the field. If this is really no big deal, why is he not eligible? We've sent guys ogg to these Juco's before that have returned, and I don't ever remember any of them coming back, and not being eligible.
In the old days of partial qualifiers and the like ... with some frequency, the Hawks would take on guys who were possible academic liabilities ... and see if they could get academically rehabilitated. If memory serves, Edmund Miles was a partial qualifier ... he redshirted (for academic reasons - because he had to) ... and he ended up being a very solid Hawk. Even past the partial qualifier policy (that ultimately the NCAA got rid of - I think) ... guys like Carl Davis and Donavan Johnson were guys who were academically iffy coming out of high school. Johnson didn't make it (which is too bad ... really talented guy) ... but Carl got his act together and did very well for himself (and the Hawks).

What is interesting given your comments is that it certainly is true that it isn't uncommon for high school athletes to not take their academics seriously. The odd thing is that often the players are willing to work crazily hard as it relates to their sport of choice ... however, they often don't apply the same effort as it relates to their academics. In my experience, often students just don't have good academic habits ... and that undermines their academic success. In other instances, students don't see the point of their studies ... so they don't put in effort where they don't see value. Sometimes students can simply be lazy ... but given that most athletes know how to dedicate themselves to their sport ... I haven't often run into "lazy" athletes. Lastly, perhaps one of the bigger factors that undercuts academic performance is that nobody wants to be perceived as "stupid" ... consequently, some students will simply refuse to put in effort in their academics. It's a safer strategy for their ego to simply attribute their failures to "not trying" rather than linking it to any limitations they might have (perceived or otherwise).

From what I've read about Daviyon, he didn't really find his academic motivation until he "blew up" on the football field during his junior year. Once he realized that his ability could place him in P5 D1 football ... and potentially the NFL after that ... he realized that he had to shore up his academics. If he can continue to approach his academics with that same sense of urgency ... and take advantage of all the academic resources that Iowa has available to its athletes (which is substantial) ... he should be able to keep himself fully eligible.
 
misread the depth chart first time didn't feel like editing post. my bad.
No worries ... I'm happy for Ferguson. Hopefully he can make the most of his opportunity. If he continues to elevate his game - the coaches have proven that they're willing to rotate guys on the OL.
 
So you don't believe in starting the best players. Got it.

Overall better player last year one could reasonably argue Hesse was better. But we're not talking about QB, it's the DL. If you are good, you play a lot. Epenesa played like 40+% of the snaps last year. He'll play at least that many this year. Which benefits all the d-linemen as they won't get as worn down.

This Tweet from Rob Howe includes a post from AJ's father on Facebook.

 
In the old days of partial qualifiers and the like ... with some frequency, the Hawks would take on guys who were possible academic liabilities ... and see if they could get academically rehabilitated. If memory serves, Edmund Miles was a partial qualifier ... he redshirted (for academic reasons - because he had to) ... and he ended up being a very solid Hawk. Even past the partial qualifier policy (that ultimately the NCAA got rid of - I think) ... guys like Carl Davis and Donavan Johnson were guys who were academically iffy coming out of high school. Johnson didn't make it (which is too bad ... really talented guy) ... but Carl got his act together and did very well for himself (and the Hawks).

What is interesting given your comments is that it certainly is true that it isn't uncommon for high school athletes to not take their academics seriously. The odd thing is that often the players are willing to work crazily hard as it relates to their sport of choice ... however, they often don't apply the same effort as it relates to their academics. In my experience, often students just don't have good academic habits ... and that undermines their academic success. In other instances, students don't see the point of their studies ... so they don't put in effort where they don't see value. Sometimes students can simply be lazy ... but given that most athletes know how to dedicate themselves to their sport ... I haven't often run into "lazy" athletes. Lastly, perhaps one of the bigger factors that undercuts academic performance is that nobody wants to be perceived as "stupid" ... consequently, some students will simply refuse to put in effort in their academics. It's a safer strategy for their ego to simply attribute their failures to "not trying" rather than linking it to any limitations they might have (perceived or otherwise).

From what I've read about Daviyon, he didn't really find his academic motivation until he "blew up" on the football field during his junior year. Once he realized that his ability could place him in P5 D1 football ... and potentially the NFL after that ... he realized that he had to shore up his academics. If he can continue to approach his academics with that same sense of urgency ... and take advantage of all the academic resources that Iowa has available to its athletes (which is substantial) ... he should be able to keep himself fully eligible.
Excellent points as usual GOH triple7......
 
Overall better player last year one could reasonably argue Hesse was better. But we're not talking about QB, it's the DL. If you are good, you play a lot. Epenesa played like 40+% of the snaps last year. He'll play at least that many this year. Which benefits all the d-linemen as they won't get as worn down.

This Tweet from Rob Howe includes a post from AJ's father on Facebook.

So nice when we see a kid from a background where he is well grounded, and brought up with things in perspective. Had always heard that AJ was an excellent teammate in high school, and a team first guy, and we see why. This fruit fell close to the tree.......
 
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I guess to me you start the best players. AJE is the best player at that position. Pretty simple. "Who cares who sees the reps during the first defensive series?" Are you serious?
Serious question ... have you ever played football? More importantly, do you understand how DL play works within a 2-gap system? There are equal parts ability, technique, and knowledge/understanding that work into successful and consistent execution. I agree that it is a no-brainer that AJ Epenesa is the most impressive athlete we have on the DL in terms of his combo of strength, speed, and quickness. However, it's also true that he's not yet a leader on the DL ... nor does he understand the game like a veteran. This is why young D-linemen often aren't equally good at defending the run and pass.

Lastly, AJ is a team-first guy ... and he's also a really confident guy. He KNOWS that he's going to see the field a lot. He also appreciates a guy like Hesse ... a guy who has not only paid his dues ... but who is also his mentor! I personally would be shocked if Epenesa were to hold any grudges towards Hesse for sharing reps with him. On the flip side ... Hesse wants to help his team win. That is part of the reason why Hesse has so willingly taken reps at DT too ... that way he can open up more reps for AJ to see the field.

You are seemingly attempting to sow seeds of discontent ... when there is no reason to do so.
 
Right, so why not start Beyer and list Fant behind him.
How would this be the appropriate comparison? If you look at production - Hesse had the better production than AJ last year. Furthermore, Hesse is viewed by everybody on the DL as the leader of the unit. Due you really want to limit the reps of the guy who is the field general?

Fant is listed ahead of Beyer because he both has more experience AND has more prior production. However, that said, the coaches are really excited about Beyer too! Beyer will see plenty of reps this season ... and he won't be complaining about playing behind Fant either.
 
Check out @MarkEmmert’s Tweet:
If Landan really has proven to be a significant "riser" heading into the '18 season ... then I don't think fans are quite appreciating the gravity of this remark. We really need our JR O-linemen to take positive steps forward ... this is critical both in terms of leadership on the unit ... and, just as important, in terms of depth. With Daniels leaving early ... that left a bit of a gash on our interior line. Having guys at C and OG step up is critical for the unit.
 
Another underappreciated player for the Hawks is Reiff. He was typically the first DT to come in when Bazata needed to be spelled. As an undersized DT, he had surprisingly good disruption numbers last season ... and, as he continues to develop (in all facets of his game) ... he's only going to improve! Lattimore really made nice strides toward the end of the season too. Matt Nelson, Lattimore, and Reiff should supply us with quite a solid rotation at DT in '18. I'll be particularly curious to see how reps get distributed on the interior. I anticipate that Hesse will continue to slide inside on pass-rush downs ... Jansen will continue to improve ... and I wouldn't be shocked if Brincks and/or Golston were to see some work on the inside too.
 
I've found the loudest internet critics have close to zero knowledge, and can't even tell you what a 3-technique means.
Even if they know the basics in terms of where the guy is supposed to line-up (in terms of the shoulder of the appropriate O-lineman) - they aren't aware of the gap responsibilities of the position (within the context of the defensive scheme). Different programs sometimes like to have guys execute their responsibilities in different ways.
 
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/2015/03/17/football-recruiting-iowa-state/24913477/

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...ollege-recruiting-hawkeyes-panthers/24867231/

Why are kids coming to Iowa if they don't have a sincere interest?
Lets be honest, we're talking about iowa...... it's not like we're talking about california, vegas, florida etc
Interesting information, thanks for linking those. Too bad it's a little bit out of date.

On the plus side it lists ISU as paying $113,000 in recruiting per win for that time period whereas Iowa spent only $48,000 per win. ;)

Maybe Iowa should be spending more and getting some of these kids on campus earlier.
 
Interesting information, thanks for linking those. Too bad it's a little bit out of date.

On the plus side it lists ISU as paying $113,000 in recruiting per win for that time period whereas Iowa spent only $48,000 per win. ;)

Maybe Iowa should be spending more and getting some of these kids on campus earlier.
I'll certainly take our results on field, over theirs. That said, if we invested more.....what could it mean?

Thank you for the links, but one of them was all about basketball and the other was about recruiting in 2013 when the clowns outspent a lot of teams in recruiting. These links just don’t show me a whole lot.

Also, Coach Ferentz has always run the program like a business and seems to always look to increase revenues and decrease expenses.
Clowns spent more every year from 2009 to 2013
In 2013 they spent more than we have in any year since.
https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-recruiting-expenses
http://db.desmoinesregister.com/col...ng/?searchterms[col2]=iowa&searchterms[col3]=

Decrease expense increase revenue? You think by spending an extra 300-400k that we couldn't possibly increase our revenue by more? Cmon son!
That is chump change......
 
I honestly believe RSing Nixon is the smart long term move.

The kid had one semester at IW, and played football through it. They're building a future for him, not a present.

When it gets right down to it, getting more 3 semesters in as far as thinking about being able to turn Nixon into a no doubter don't have to worry ever again about schoolwork and still get 3 playing years out of him...as opposed to possibly overloading the kid right out of the chute to where you lose him completely?

I like the move. They are investing in the man he can become, not the football player he might be now. Kirk sees risk here - and we all probably should too as fans knowing his HS background. I seem to recall, the kid had a difficult time in HS to where he had to bust his ass in the classroom his senior year. Schools all over were scared off by his academics, and rightfully so.

Make us all proud, young man.
If he ends up being a stud, who says we'll get 3 years of play from him?
I hope we don't get 3 years from him because it means he wasn't as good as some are hoping
 
If Landan really has proven to be a significant "riser" heading into the '18 season ... then I don't think fans are quite appreciating the gravity of this remark. We really need our JR O-linemen to take positive steps forward ... this is critical both in terms of leadership on the unit ... and, just as important, in terms of depth. With Daniels leaving early ... that left a bit of a gash on our interior line. Having guys at C and OG step up is critical for the unit.
I think we're all hoping to still see something special from teh twins.
Hard to get in when you have a bunch of upperclassmen in front of you that will at least sniff the nfl and some that will shine there.
 
Overall better player last year one could reasonably argue Hesse was better. But we're not talking about QB, it's the DL. If you are good, you play a lot. Epenesa played like 40+% of the snaps last year. He'll play at least that many this year. Which benefits all the d-linemen as they won't get as worn down.

This Tweet from Rob Howe includes a post from AJ's father on Facebook.


Absolutely love this statement from his Dad. First off helps that Eppy is a former college player who knows what he is talking about. But in today's age of college sports where guys want to transfer or complain about starting, playing time early on in their career or the entitlement they have because of all the hype they had coming into the program from HS or camps and thinking they are entitled to playing time right away. Lot of that mindset comes from all the friends, family and other influences who tell kids this and they buy in with this thought process that they are the greatest thing ever. With AJ being biggest recruit in sometime refreshing to see how he doesn't fit into this group and again large part of it have to tip your cap to Eppy for raising him that way with the mindset of earning his time.

Not to beat a dead horse on subject but the other end of this spectrum is we all remember the case of Willies quitting before freshman year was already done because he felt he should have been playing more instead of working and earning that playing time with over 3 years to go.
 
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If he ends up being a stud, who says we'll get 3 years of play from him?
I hope we don't get 3 years from him because it means he wasn't as good as some are hoping

None of us know, nor will ever know, the complete situation since it deals with academics. We have to trust the coaches that the plan for Nixon is what's best for he and the team in the long run. If they thought it would be best for him to get his feet under him academically the first year without the pressures of playing in games, then that's what needs to happen. Even if he's a super/great performer the first time he plays for Iowa (2019 season) and so good he ends up going in the draft after playing 1 year at Iowa, how is that a bad thing? If the proceed without the redshirt year, maybe he struggles and never sees the field.
 
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I'll certainly take our results on field, over theirs. That said, if we invested more.....what could it mean?


Clowns spent more every year from 2009 to 2013
In 2013 they spent more than we have in any year since.
https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-recruiting-expenses
http://db.desmoinesregister.com/college-football-recruiting/?searchterms[col2]=iowa&searchterms[col3]=

Decrease expense increase revenue? You think by spending an extra 300-400k that we couldn't possibly increase our revenue by more? Cmon son!
That is chump change......
You completely missed my point. Cmon young fella. You can do better than this.
 
Where is Keith Duncan listed?
With Recinos a SR and firmly entrenched as the FG and KO kicker this fall, doesn't it make sense that Duncan redshirt in 2018 so he has a couple years left after Miguel leaves? Give him some extra time to gain some extra leg strength.
 
With Recinos a SR and firmly entrenched as the FG and KO kicker this fall, doesn't it make sense that Duncan redshirt in 2018 so he has a couple years left after Miguel leaves? Give him some extra time to gain some extra leg strength.

Duncan used his redshirt last year.
 
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Wow Rugumba now 2nd fiddle to Ojemudia.
Yikes.
Evidently that Michigan game for Rugumba was a fluke.
Didn't Purdon't torch both those guys?
 
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