I agree a 100% King needs to play the No.1 receiver no matter which side of the field plus it would help him develope for next level
Is anyone else concerned..
- Thread starter ChuckThomas12
- Start date
Iowa didn't get as many yards because of a couple of the short fields. Iowa didn't have as much TOP or first downs because they scored too quickly and consistently gained yards in big chunks.
The fortunate turnovers came when the quarterback stood in the pocket looking downfield. It allowed Miami to move the ball at times, but it caused the QB to take a couple of hits that led to turnovers. You can't have it both ways.
Thanks for the bold text. Not sure I would have seen it otherwise. In either case, worthless drivel from a wussified worry-wart. Grow a pair and quit letting ur wife/girlfriend post here.
Last I checked, we cruised to 1-0 without two of our best defensive players and a passive defensive scheme (aka - plain vanilla).
First game jitters. 240 days is a long time to sit. They will improve as they always do once they settle in and start to play the way they have been coached. As long they improve the future is looks good. Every one had moments they were great and then not so good. The players are more painfully aware of these more than the fans and will respond and motivate themselves more than what anyone here can offer. Give them time. They are 18-21 year old young men who want to be the best that they can be. Several were in high school and or on the bench part of the time last year. Even the quarterback had moments. We will be OK.
This is my take as well. He is generally in good position, just often doesn't turn his head on downfield stuff. Actually on the 1 TD where folks are saying he "blew the coverage", I think he was expecting Safety help on the back side and it was late.
I might rather have A. Nelson in as a full time player and Hesse and M. Nelson share time. A little early to commit 100% to this statement, but A. Nelson impacted Saturday's game more than any other IA defensive player.
Some of the issues on Saturday were on the safeties. I think one was one a linebacker, but it is extremely difficult to diagnose this stuff without knowing exactly what type of cover 2 they were in.
Funny... at one point during the game, one of the announcers commented that "Mabin, simply WILL NOT turn his head in pass coverage."
I kept yelling, "turn around for the ball" from the north stands but he must not have heard me
Last edited:
There was a mixture of things that lead to giving up that many yards.
The first possession when Jewel was in the game, he let the left Guard get into his pads on the second level blocking. Part of that was on Bazatta. If he's going to take on that double team, he has to get better leverage and keep that Guard engaged.
Bower was a step out of position several times and he got caught up in the wash too often.
The biggest reason was Laron Taylor. He took some bad angles in run support on several occasions. He was also responsible for the long pass in the first half. Some of his play was really head scratching.
Miami's OL played really well, all things considered. They are a well coached group.
The first possession when Jewel was in the game, he let the left Guard get into his pads on the second level blocking. Part of that was on Bazatta. If he's going to take on that double team, he has to get better leverage and keep that Guard engaged.
Bower was a step out of position several times and he got caught up in the wash too often.
The biggest reason was Laron Taylor. He took some bad angles in run support on several occasions. He was also responsible for the long pass in the first half. Some of his play was really head scratching.
Miami's OL played really well, all things considered. They are a well coached group.
The naysayers have to pick apart the stats to find things to worry about.
Stats don't matter when the game is over within minutes. We jumped out front and cruised home to a win. We didn't do much because we didn't need to. We got out without major injuries, too. It's pretty much perfect.
I do agree the coaches have plenty of ammunition for teaching points. We still have questions to answer, but aren't they the same questions we had coming in? We won't really know the answer until we are properly tested.
On Mabin, the guy plays a bit hot and cold, but I'm not willing to throw him under the bus. Quite a few of those completions I saw, he had good coverage, but the guy was just too tall and snatched it over him. On others, I think there were coverage issues. So I'm not down on him like others. And if there are coverage issues, then moving King around may not be a good idea. I didn't play collegiate defense but I imagine that kind of shifting coverage assignment would lead to even more trouble.
Stats don't matter when the game is over within minutes. We jumped out front and cruised home to a win. We didn't do much because we didn't need to. We got out without major injuries, too. It's pretty much perfect.
I do agree the coaches have plenty of ammunition for teaching points. We still have questions to answer, but aren't they the same questions we had coming in? We won't really know the answer until we are properly tested.
On Mabin, the guy plays a bit hot and cold, but I'm not willing to throw him under the bus. Quite a few of those completions I saw, he had good coverage, but the guy was just too tall and snatched it over him. On others, I think there were coverage issues. So I'm not down on him like others. And if there are coverage issues, then moving King around may not be a good idea. I didn't play collegiate defense but I imagine that kind of shifting coverage assignment would lead to even more trouble.
I thought Mabin had a bad day but so did Snyder. I think the biggest thing was thought that the run d suffered with no Jewell and with no Hesse. I thought Taylor and Snyder didn't wrap up on some tackles either. It was a sloppy day on defense. Had some bad plays from the oline as well in pass blocking. But they all look like things that are correctable and I expect Iowa to play better against ISU. I will only be worried if the starters are playing and it becomes a pattern.
I re-watched the game, and this specifically, and they were very well thrown back shoulder passes. Their QB threw very well against us that 2nd half.
Yeah he had a couple that were perfect that you couldn't do anything about. Kid looks like he could be a good one.
Yeah bad day by Mabin but all things considered I'm not complaining when he is my 2nd best CB he's proven he is more than capable. I also agree with the QB. Re watched the game thought he made several really nice throws. First long gain of 60+ hit his guy in stride in perfect place. On Miami's first td he had a beautiful throw on 3rd down play before td right over MLB getting it to his WR in the right spot. Same with other TDs where solid throws. One of Lannings question mark is his accuracy. For the 3 nice td catches he threw (2 just great grabs) he made a lot of poor throws last week and he has that OL blocking for him.
But as many have said we sent front 4 at him all game even on 3rd down when we would normally send in the raider package. Sure Parker will switch things up some next week and show something little different.
Also not as worried because coaches have said all camp the offense hasn't been able to do much against our first team D. Even after the game Ferentz seemed surprised by the lack of run D because he said they haven't been able to run against D in practice. I think a lot of it though was no Hesse and no Jewell.
Not concerned here. I think we have up close to 400 yards against North Texas last year (maybe the worst D1 team last year). We will be less vanilla on defense when we need to be, this game was not a game to be concerned with.
Yeah ... I noticed that too. As I recall that was Snyder's side too ... first year starter ... there's going to be some communication issues in the secondary to start the season.
I think that the good news is the following ... we had a comfortable victory ... 8 core guys on the D return as starters (although not all played much versus Miami) ... and we exit the game WITHOUT the D being cocky!
One of the worst things that can lead to complacency is stupid overconfidence. Instead, we're going to see a D that is highly focused to fix all the issues that showed up on film against Miami (OH).
The run D will have plenty to work on ... and, in addition to that, the secondary will have plenty to work on in terms of improving communication.
Lastly, we benefit from having Iowa State only see our base D. Of course, they have past tape on what the Hawks like to do. However, they won't know how we're planning on utilizing various personnel packages. We might put Mends on the field ... but have him operate out of our base D. On other occasions, he might operate out of our base ... but be a designated blitzer. On other occasions ... he'll be in the raider package.
Thanks for the clarification - I thought I remember seeing Snyder run in late into the frame on that TD reception. Perhaps I'm remembering wrong ... I'll have to go back and watch some of those plays.
This is not accurate at all. There were plenty of plays where Snyder was playing safety on the left side over Mabin.
The TD throw that we're talking about for one and that defense Iowa was in doesnt get more basic than that play
Taylor is the SS. The SS typically lines up on the left side in our base defense. Left side=strong side. At least in run defense.
That was a passing down. Would you like me to give the as many examples of Taylor lining up on the left side? Give me a little time and I will give a precise play count on left vs right side on Taylor. That will settle it.
But for the sake of the original post, I may be wrong about where Taylor was lined up on that play because they obviously move them around. So it's Pointless to argue about it. I will just concede that he was on the right side for the play in question. Sorry.
Last edited:
Well, I looked at the video of the TD on the sideline, we were in cover 2 and Snyder was definitely on Mabin's side of the field with Taylor on King's side. No doubt about it. I think safeties vary on side depending on the offensive formation. We don't know what the strong side of the field is until the offense comes up to the LOS.
Similar threads
