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Is being a guaranteed 2nd round NBA draft pick worth leaving school for?

At 50 I try to remember my early 20's and suppose I too was eager to get to the next thing. Funny as you get older you start to hang on to the last thing...

I think mostly it is just the thought of getting somewhere that drives the decision.
 
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Anyone that has played 4 years and done what Garza has done has no need to hang around.

As for Joe, I guess his first career will be in basketball. Likely making lowper-end money in the GLeague in the states or a bit better money in Europe. He can probably earn enough to be able to come back and finish his last year of his degree when his playing days are over. So I get why he would consider leaving early, especially considering his engagement and desire to get on with his life. But man, what I wouldn’t give to trade places with him and still have another year of undergrad left, even without being a basketball player with a full ride.
 
Herky T Hawk said:
Anyone that has played 4 years and done what Garza has done has no need to hang around.

As for Joe, I guess his first career will be in basketball. Likely making lowper-end money in the GLeague in the states or a bit better money in Europe. He can probably earn enough to be able to come back and finish his last year of his degree when his playing days are over. So I get why he would consider leaving early, especially considering his engagement and desire to get on with his life. But man, what I wouldn’t give to trade places with him and still have another year of undergrad left, even without being a basketball player with a full ride.
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Could've swore players that leave early have their Scholly honored still if they come back to finish their degree if it's within a certain time frame after they leave.
 
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TheCDiggity said:
Could've swore players that leave early have their Scholly honored still if they come back to finish their degree if it's within a certain time frame after they leave.
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You are correct:


Degree completion assistance​

Division I schools will be required to pay for tuition, fees and books for basketball players who leave school and return later to the same school to earn their degree. Former student-athletes will be eligible for financial assistance to complete their first degree if they were on scholarship and fewer than 10 years have passed since they left school. Additionally, students must have been in school for two years before leaving. Former student-athletes also must meet all the school’s admissions and financial aid requirements and must have exhausted all other funding options to be eligible, as well as meet all NCAA academic requirements.

This rule change is effective Aug. 1, 2019.
 
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Yes. If you have to lift, go to practices, play in games and be on the road alot, you might as well get paid for it.
 
If you dream of being a professional basketball player, a good chance to be drafted anywhere is enough incentive. The exception would be if another year of college could get you into the first round where some money is guaranteed. I don't think that's the case for Joe.
 
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Weiskamp was the 2nd best player on this team and it's not close. Next year he would be the clear number 1 and likely 1st Team all Big Ten. For everyone who claims he has no shot at the NBA and will be playing in the G League at best, why do you care if he leaves? It seems because when he did exactly what any person should do when he checked out his options and received evaluation from the NBA, it rubbed people the wrong way. Even though most of you did practicums and internships before you graduated.
 
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As always we just don't know the circumstances - maybe he's gotten feedback from some teams that he'd get signed to a 2 way deal or something which is worth a lot more and a lot more realistic chance to play in the league hext year.
 
HawkIDrummer said:
This.

Aaron White is making some pretty good coin playing overseas. It's not NBA money but it's enough to get setup for a pretty good life after basketball. Even if these guys never get more than a cup of coffee in the NBA, they can play hoops til they're 30 and begin phase 2 of their lives with $1M+ in the bank.
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A coworker was telling me that his friend (forgot his name but I looked him up at the time and I think it was someone that played for ISU a while back) plays overseas and makes ~$400,000/year and the org pays for his housing, food, etc. so he has very few expenses.

I’d sign up for that life. Could easily retire after playing ball.
 
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ChiPackHawk said:
Weiskamp was the 2nd best player on this team and it's not close. Next year he would be the clear number 1 and likely 1st Team all Big Ten. For everyone who claims he has no shot at the NBA and will be playing in the G League at best, why do you care if he leaves? It seems because when he did exactly what any person should do when he checked out his options and received evaluation from the NBA, it rubbed people the wrong way. Even though most of you did practicums and internships before you graduated.
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Yes I don't understand the semi-anger some people have if a guy leaves and isn't a sure-fire lottery pick. If it's me, and I'm 3 years in and I'm not a first round pick, I come back for the senior year experience and my degree to get done right now. Yes, the degree can still be obtained later and paid for by the University, but if I'm that close I would just do it now. Again, that's just me. If a player is ready to focus on a pro career 100% of the time and see how far they can take it in the window they have, it's a free country (relatively). Godspeed and best wishes. Great Hawkeye and wish him nothing but the best.
 
There are no guarantees with the NBA draft. Just because they are projected to be drafted in the 2nd round, doesn't mean it will happen. Especially being a late 2nd round pick.
 
Herky T Hawk said:
Anyone that has played 4 years and done what Garza has done has no need to hang around.

As for Joe, I guess his first career will be in basketball. Likely making lowper-end money in the GLeague in the states or a bit better money in Europe. He can probably earn enough to be able to come back and finish his last year of his degree when his playing days are over. So I get why he would consider leaving early, especially considering his engagement and desire to get on with his life. But man, what I wouldn’t give to trade places with him and still have another year of undergrad left, even without being a basketball player with a full ride.
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$35k to $4m is a bit better? Ok.
 
If Weisy wants to leave I wish him all the best. Do I think he will stick in the NBA? No. He is entitled to chase his dream but he needs another year of college ball to get stronger and improve his ball handling.
 
bdg8 said:
Maybe, but experiencing the high of getting 3rd place in your conference and making it to the round of 32 might be suffice for some people
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Who wouldn't want to come back for their senior season to play for fans like you?
 
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They are what they are at this point. Coming back has much more risk than reward. They brought the band back together for this year in an attempt to finish a Cinderella story. As Tom said on the most recent Pod, it just didn't go that way. It's time for them and Iowa to move on.
 
If coming back would improve his odds significantly of sticking in the nba, then of course he should return. Unfortunately there is no answer to that question.
If he were my son I wouldn't push him one way or another.
I think Joe MIGHT improve his draft stock if he comes back, but wouldn't say that's highly likely either. Europe seems like the place he's most likely to stick and make decent money.
Best of luck to him whichever way he decides to go.
 
This is something him and Mackenzie need to work out. How much more schooling does she have left? Will she stay behind and finish school? Will she drop school and go with him and finish school later?
 
Use to be stories about Americans in Europe playing basketball having difficulty actually getting their pay.

with Covid still raging in Europe because of vaccine shortages I would assume their leagues are at the very least suffering financially.
 
If you've already got your degree and you don't feel that staying the extra year will help your draft stock, then yes, go out and make as much money you can whether it's in the US, or overseas. Next man in, not going to fault him for that. Weezy gave us 3 years of great basketball...
 
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They had a goal this year, and that sure didn't work out......
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I only watched one Hawkeye game this year. Oregon. I was a huge fan years ago. Rare that I missed a game. Not anymore. With basically free agency and players leaving early I have almost no interest in college BB.
 
jo12208 said:
I only watched one Hawkeye game this year. Oregon. I was a huge fan years ago. Rare that I missed a game. Not anymore. With basically free agency and players leaving early I have almost no interest in college BB.
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So it was you! You’re the guy that jinxed us!
 
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If Europe ball is so lucrative, then didn't guys like Gatens, Haluska, Luke Recker, etc stick it out
over there raking in $400K/yr? Why is Uthoff and Woody still slogging in G-league when average salary is $35K/yr. Some guys like Brunner have long/lucrative career. There are some limits on number of foreigners
teams can take, so the less elite guys get less money. Garza supposedly won't count as a foreigner
because he has European parents...he probably can make a lot of money and have great career and
hope he does.

No doubt playing B-ball professionally is higher paying than being a college student. I have no problem
with Weezy leaving early----I myself would have given a left nut to be a 4-year college great and all time
Iowa great but I am in my 50's. Times are different. Weezy leaving early, he will go down as a nice player at Iowa, not an all time great. Gatens put together an epi senior year....weezy bailed.
 
jo12208 said:
I only watched one Hawkeye game this year. Oregon. I was a huge fan years ago. Rare that I missed a game. Not anymore. With basically free agency and players leaving early I have almost no interest in college BB.
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Weird flex, but ok. Considering Iowa barely dabbles in the transfer market(that may change) and players rarely leave early.
 
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HawkLogic said:
If Europe ball is so lucrative, then didn't guys like Gatens, Haluska, Luke Recker, etc stick it out
over there raking in $400K/yr? Why is Uthoff and Woody still slogging in G-league when average salary is $35K/yr. Some guys like Brunner have long/lucrative career. There are some limits on number of foreigners
teams can take, so the less elite guys get less money. Garza supposedly won't count as a foreigner
because he has European parents...he probably can make a lot of money and have great career and
hope he does.

No doubt playing B-ball professionally is higher paying than being a college student. I have no problem
with Weezy leaving early----I myself would have given a left nut to be a 4-year college great and all time
Iowa great but I am in my 50's. Times are different. Weezy leaving early, he will go down as a nice player at Iowa, not an all time great. Gatens put together an epi senior year....weezy bailed.
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Some people don't like being over there. It's not for everybody.

There are a LOT of Hoiberg era players that are in Europe making good money and have been doing it for a long time. There are huge differences in the leagues. The Spanish and Italian leagues are pretty good and pay well. If you're playing in Germany, Greece, England, etc. you aren't making crap.
 
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