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Is Caitlyn Jenner still a Republican? And is that even fair to ask?

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Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) sent out this tweet Monday after Vanity Fair released its cover photo of Caitlyn Jenner, a transgender woman who until Monday was known as Bruce Jenner.

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Bruce #Jenner came out as a Republican last April.Well is #CaitlynJenner a Republican too ?

2:52 PM - 1 Jun 2015

During an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer in late April, Jenner revealed that he was a transgender woman planning an outward transformation this year. During that interview, Jenner also made another revelation that arguably surprised more people: He's a conservative and a Republican.

When Sawyer asked Jenner if he would be willing to ask the Republican congressional leadership to support LGBT issues, Jenner said he would. “In a heartbeat, why not?” Jenner said. “And I think they’d be very receptive to it.” He also insisted that neither Democrats nor Republicans have a monopoly on “understanding.”

Log Cabin Republicans congratulated Jenner on what the organization called, “tremendous courage” after the interview. Naturally, there were plenty of detractors -- particularly on social media.

There are many ways to read a tweet, and particularly a Steve Cohen Tweet. Still, it's completely fair to ask if it's even appropriate to assume that Jenner's outward transformation would also prompt a change in political affiliation. Jenner's gender identity is, of course, only one part of who Jenner is. During the first six decades of life, Jenner apparently agreed with conservative Republican ideas.

On another level, Cohen was asking a question that many people might ask, given how closely intertwined the LGBT community is with the Democratic Party.

A July Gallup poll found that LGBT Americans rank among the Democratic Party's most loyal constituencies. A full 63 percent of LGBT individuals described themselves as Democrats or independents who lean toward the left. Only 21 percent described themselves as Republicans or independents who tend to support GOP candidates and ideas. That's a party split that's considerably different than the split in what Gallup described as non-LGBT Americans, where voters are nearly evenly divided.

And there are some very good reasons for the kind of Democratic Party loyalty that a majority of LGBT voters exhibit. After all, the Republican Party platform includes firm opposition to gay marriage, and Republicans across the country are passing so-called religious freedom laws that LGBT groups say target their rights..

In addition, a wave of local and state efforts to protect the rights of LGBT individuals or the option to use public restrooms that conform with their gender identities have faced the wrath of conservative voters, organized campaigns that harnessed the likes of Republican and conservative-Christian reality TV star Michelle Duggar, or been felled by Republican legislators who authored or voted for bills that would stand in the way of expanding LGBT rights.

But it's also worth nothing that the July Gallup poll results looked a lot like an October 2012 poll run by the same organization. When it comes to LGBT Americans, it seems there's generally been very little movement between the parties, despite the growing gap between where the parties stand on issues that matter to many in that community.

Then, of course, there is the reaction to Jenner's Vanity Fair cover in conservative corners of Twitter. Salon described the reaction as "awful." But most of the tweets included in the Salon piece might be more accurately described as dubious, confused or outright ideologically opposed to the idea that a person can be transgender, period. And this, of course, brings us back to Caitlyn Jenner.

After the Vanity Fair image went public Monday, Jenner quickly bested President's Obama's record for the speed at which her Twitter account picked up followers. As of Tuesday morning, @Caitlyn_Jenner had over 2 million followers.


The importance of Twitter as a cultural force is debatable. But, that kind of rapid movement on Twitter does give some credence to something else that Jenner said about politics and culture in that April sitdown with Sawyer. Jenner explained that his outward transition and the media attention it would inevitably continue to draw amount to a sort of public service, making many more Americans aware of what it means to be transgender. And that, Jenner said, could include the Republican Party's leadership.

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I have to say I too thought it was odd that the first thing this new female did was release a glamor shot portfolio. Women, go figure.

God damn it natural, now I got defend he/she. The first thing he/she did was give 20/20 and Dianne Sawyer an interview.
 
God damn it natural, now I got defend he/she. The first thing he/she did was give 20/20 and Dianne Sawyer an interview.
I don't think so, that was pre she. In the 20/20 interview he still wanted to be called he and went by Bruce.
 
You confuse me there too. Are you like tranny racial? Or is it more like drag?
Just for show, curiosity and mostly to see how people would react.
So more of a Soul Man style racial. Tried to get my learn on with it, found out it was a bit different, but not so much.
 
Just for show, curiosity and mostly to see how people would react.
So more of a Soul Man style racial. Tried to get my learn on with it, found out it was a bit different, but not so much.
So drag, I get that. Are you really a libertarian in the industry too?
 
I had another thought. If gender is controlled by a mental process rather than a physical reality, can other immutable characteristics also be changed by a person's point of view? Can a person be mentally another race or another age for example? Could I apply for Medicare if I felt like I was 65? Could Warren really be Native American if she felt she was?
 
She/he/it is better looking than Hillary...I say we run it.
Heck, you beat me to it. I was going to say by the Iowa straw poll, those old , wrinkled, short-peckered Republicans will have the heshe running for president. I figure to them she's as hot as Sarah Palin.
 
I had another thought. If gender is controlled by a mental process rather than a physical reality, can other immutable characteristics also be changed by a person's point of view? Can a person be mentally another race or another age for example? Could I apply for Medicare if I felt like I was 65? Could Warren really be Native American if she felt she was?
Wow, this is kinda weird, but I sometimes feel like I'm Japanese. It eventually passes, but...
 
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I had another thought. If gender is controlled by a mental process rather than a physical reality, can other immutable characteristics also be changed by a person's point of view? Can a person be mentally another race or another age for example? Could I apply for Medicare if I felt like I was 65? Could Warren really be Native American if she felt she was?
Well here's what's funny. Post Op Tranny women aren't allowed to fight other 'girls'. This is because they are still men genetically and physically. They are simply too strong and have too many advantages. There was a case of this just a couple years ago, where it was ruled that a tranny post op woman was no longer allowed to fight REAL females, because he/she/ was clobbering the other fighters.
 
Yes I know...please forgive the hatred in my heart. I'm going to try harder to better myself.

This is HROT. You get your hatred and bigotry back together and get back in the game. There's no time for thoughtful reflection on HROT.
 
I had another thought. If gender is controlled by a mental process rather than a physical reality, can other immutable characteristics also be changed by a person's point of view? Can a person be mentally another race or another age for example? Could I apply for Medicare if I felt like I was 65? Could Warren really be Native American if she felt she was?
In your case bud you would have to feel 75...maybe 80...but never mind...you just keep working hard...in fact work 2 jobs...maybe 3...you are still young...I need you to fund mine...and here is thanking you in advance.
 
Wow, this is kinda weird, but I sometimes feel like I'm Japanese. It eventually passes, but...


Turning Japanese? Interesting. A few other people have thought this as well. I sometimes feel like I'm super rich. It eventually passes.

 
In your case bud you would have to feel 75...maybe 80...but never mind...you just keep working hard...in fact work 2 jobs...maybe 3...you are still young...I need you to fund mine...and here is thanking you in advance.
You are very welcome.
 
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