“vaccines cannot keep up with rapidly changing variants”
I mean.....
Opinion | Are Vaccines Fueling New Covid Variants?
The virus appears to be evolving in ways that evade immunity.
www.wsj.com
Is COVID a Common Cold Yet?
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I mean.....
www.wsj.com
No; they do not practically exist. Unless they want to live their life in Antarctica.
Wow!!! "OPINION articles!!!“vaccines cannot keep up with rapidly changing variants”
I mean.....
Opinion | Are Vaccines Fueling New Covid Variants?
The virus appears to be evolving in ways that evade immunity.
Know what else fuels viral variants? Widespread infection immunity.
Only with vaccines, we PREVENT far more deaths and serious complications from viruses.
headlines on news articles about scientific studies are almost always wrong because the headline writers don't really understand what they're reading. We need better science reporters. That's definitely true.“The association of increased risk of COVID-19 with higher numbers of prior vaccine doses in our study, was unexpected.”
I’ll bet.
Study: MRNA Vaccines Increase Risk of Contracting COVID-19; Each Booster Shot Raises Risk Even More in Study of 51,000 Cleveland Clinic Workers – [your]NEWS
A stunning pre-print study by the Cleveland Clinic published Monday at medRxiv shows that MRNA vaccines raise the risk of contracting COVID-19 and that each MRNA vaccine booster increases the risk of contracting COVID-19yournews.com
also, don't get your science reporting from "yournews.com". At least try to find a site with real editorial guidelines. Even then, find someone who actually understands the science to explain those. Quite often journalists will make a claim, then bring a scientist on who says, "Well, not really." Science is tough and most journalists do a very poor job of communicating it unfortunately. I don't think it's on purpose, I just think if you're not a scientist, trying to understand what studies really mean is not easy.
“Given the demonstrated safety (??) of the earlier mRNA vaccines and the perceived urgency of need of a more effective preventive tool, these vaccines were approved without demonstration of effectiveness in clinical studies.”
That's how flu vaccines are pushed out, spud.
Every year. They really have no idea how well those will match. Some years, good; others, not.
Most of the vulnerable ones have passed away by now. Excess deaths are still a thing though, curiously.
“vaccines cannot keep up with rapidly changing variants”
I mean.....
Opinion | Are Vaccines Fueling New Covid Variants?
The virus appears to be evolving in ways that evade immunity.
Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens
Could some vaccines drive the evolution of more virulent pathogens? Conventional wisdom is that natural selection will remove highly lethal pathogens if host death greatly reduces transmission. Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Per CDC provisional data for 2022, it's looking to be far far away from "the common cold" still
| Year | Age Group | COVID-19 Deaths | Influenza Deaths | Ratio |
| 2022 | Under 1 year | 184 | 18 | 10.2 |
| 2022 | 0-17 years | 606 | 130 | 4.7 |
| 2022 | 1-4 years | 126 | 33 | 3.8 |
| 2022 | 5-14 years | 183 | 67 | 2.7 |
| 2022 | 15-24 years | 613 | 60 | 10.2 |
| 2022 | 18-29 years | 1327 | 81 | 16.4 |
| 2022 | 25-34 years | 2254 | 95 | 23.7 |
| 2022 | 30-39 years | 3386 | 146 | 23.2 |
| 2022 | 35-44 years | 4990 | 208 | 24.0 |
| 2022 | 40-49 years | 7542 | 239 | 31.6 |
| 2022 | 45-54 years | 11868 | 323 | 36.7 |
| 2022 | 50-64 years | 37270 | 1069 | 34.9 |
| 2022 | 55-64 years | 29913 | 861 | 34.7 |
| 2022 | 65-74 years | 52000 | 1397 | 37.2 |
| 2022 | 75-84 years | 65357 | 1770 | 36.9 |
| 2022 | 85 years and over | 70845 | 1902 | 37.2 |
COVID:
- 5x more deaths in children, overall than flu
- 3x more in 5-14 yrs than flu
- 10x more in adolescents/young adults
- And the ratios go up from there....
COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics
Tabulated data on provisional COVID-19 deaths by age, sex, race and Hispanic origin, and comorbidities. Also includes an index of state-level and county-level mortality data available for download.
www.cdc.gov
No it doesn’t in a meaningful way at all. Certainly not certain enough to compel vaccination on that basis.
Love to see a link to ANY study that demonstrates this clearly.
Yes. It does.
Studies have confirmed lower viral loads, shorter spans of infectiousness, etc.
Several ways that ALL lower the R0 of the virus.
I can back them up. I want to see if you can use Google, to find readily available information.
Or, are you too dumb to do this. There are well over a half dozen refs out there.
I dont need the references. I just wanted you to prove what you assert. You cannot.
Based on my prior handles experience, I already know there’s only one dumb person in this conversation.
Haven’t seen you in the new board? You headed over there?
Yeah, I figured you weren't gonna want to read, anyway. That's how MAGAs roll
newsGP - COVID-19 vaccination reduces household transmission up to 97%
The new research findings also appear to be reflected by the recent downward trend in Australian locally acquired cases, a former World Health Organization epidemiologist says.
www1.racgp.org.au
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2022/12/4...s-prior-infection-reduce-transmission-omicron
COVID vaccines slash risk of spreading Omicron — and so does previous infection
But the benefit of vaccines in reducing Omicron transmission doesn’t last for long.
www.nature.com
Infectiousness of SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infections and reinfections during the Omicron wave - Nature Medicine
Analysis of data from California prisons shows that both COVID-19 vaccination and prior SARS-CoV-2 infection reduces the risk of virus transmission to close contacts.
www.nature.com
SARS-CoV-2 Transmission and Shedding According to Vaccination Status
This cohort study compares the secondary attack rate and infectious viral shedding kinetics of SARS-CoV-2 in fully vaccinated vs partially vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.
jamanetwork.com
COVID vaccine markedly cuts household transmission, studies show
I would still like to know your prior handle or I'm going to have to assume you're the dumb one. I don't understand why you would be a chicken shit about it. You could tell us vaguely why you won't share it at least.
Yeah, I figured you weren't gonna want to read, anyway. That's how MAGAs roll
newsGP - COVID-19 vaccination reduces household transmission up to 97%
The new research findings also appear to be reflected by the recent downward trend in Australian locally acquired cases, a former World Health Organization epidemiologist says.www1.racgp.org.au
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2022/12/4...s-prior-infection-reduce-transmission-omicron
COVID vaccines slash risk of spreading Omicron — and so does previous infection
But the benefit of vaccines in reducing Omicron transmission doesn’t last for long.
Infectiousness of SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infections and reinfections during the Omicron wave - Nature Medicine
Analysis of data from California prisons shows that both COVID-19 vaccination and prior SARS-CoV-2 infection reduces the risk of virus transmission to close contacts.
SARS-CoV-2 Transmission and Shedding According to Vaccination Status
This cohort study compares the secondary attack rate and infectious viral shedding kinetics of SARS-CoV-2 in fully vaccinated vs partially vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.
COVID vaccine markedly cuts household transmission, studies show
www.cidrap.umn.edu
What do we know about covid vaccines and preventing transmission?
Vaccines that work against SARS-CoV-2 have helped change the course of the pandemic by reducing illness and hospital admissions. But Chris Stokel-Walker asks what we know about their impact on preventing transmission. The range of vaccines developed in record time by pharmaceutical companies...
Lots of opinions it seems..
That's an Op-Ed, not a journal article/study.What do we know about covid vaccines and preventing transmission?
Vaccines that work against SARS-CoV-2 have helped change the course of the pandemic by reducing illness and hospital admissions. But Chris Stokel-Walker asks what we know about their impact on preventing transmission. The range of vaccines developed in record time by pharmaceutical companies...www.bmj.com
Lots of opinions it seems..
And it includes an EARLY study which states:
"A study2 of covid-19 transmission within English households using data gathered in early 2021 found that even a single dose of a covid-19 vaccine reduced the likelihood of household transmission by 40-50%. "
MOST studies HAVE indicated benefits in reducing transmission SINCE your Op Ed was written.
And, if you want to learn more, then Google HOW they reduce transmission; via things like "shorter incubation periods", "lower viral shedding levels", "antibodies already attached to shed virus", etc etc etc.
Because I prefer to have a bit more anonymity this go round. My prior handle and post history gave out enough info that I could be doxxed easy enough.
Bottom line is that I have some local public policy exposure, and a relatively public profession, and in this day and age anyone with any sort of online presence with controversial opinions best protect themselves. Make sense?
It is an op Ed but it also addresses the question summarizing prior studies and expert opinion. There are others but it’s late….
It does. Kind of. My opinions wouldn't be the problems with my posts. A lot of other problems, but you must have some pretty wild opinions to worry about this.
