Is it just me or are we a poor rebounding team

[OnceAhawk]

Remember the great rebounding Tom Davis teams?

I watch this Iowa team rebound (or not rebound) and am frustrated; I don't recall one McCaffery Iowa team that rebounded fundamentally well. If we would turn, put our butts into the man we are guarding, and block them out, there is no way our opponent gets the rebound.

There is no way Dayton should be out rebounding Iowa.

I remember Davis' teams being among the best in the country in rebounding margin. In a quick google search, I found that in January, 1987, Iowa was outrebounding opponents by an average of 14.2 per game and led the nation in rebound margin (source: http://www.nytimes.com/1987/01/25/s...ch-puts-iowa-in-no-1-spot.html?pagewanted=all).

Things did not change 10 years later, either, as seen in this 1997 article.

IOWA CITY, Iowa
Wed, 01/29/1997 - 2:00pm
http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/1997-01-29/iowa-illini-rebound.html

– When it comes to predictability, we now can list Iowa's rebounding with Duany Duany jokes, Gene Keady temper tantrums and Robert Traylor's order at McDonald's.

"Iowa's always been known for that," Illinois coach Lon Kruger said. "The thing that's impressive about them is that rebounding margin."

As they did in 1987, '89 and '93 under Tom Davis, the Hawkeyes sit atop Division I in rebounding margin, grabbing 13.4 more boards than their opponents each night.

The next-closest Big Ten team: Minnesota at 6.7.

In Division I, only rugged Cincinnati (12.5) and taller Kansas (12.1) are within two boards of the Hawkeyes' average.

"I still find it shocking when I see that," said Hawkeyes junior Ryan Bowen, the best of the Big Ten's rebounding bunch. "If you look at the guys that we have ... we don't have a dominating 7-footer. Our forwards don't have big builds.

"It's just kind of strange."

So how do they do it?

Frequent subbing along the front line, Bowen said, is reason No. 1.

Reason No. 2: Good rebounding position from good team defense.

Reason No. 3: Sending all five guys after offensive rebounds.

And last but not least, Bowen said, there's the fear factor.

"If our man gets a rebound on us, we know that we're going to find ourselves on the bench right away," Bowen said. "Some of it has to do with being afraid. Coach Davis puts a lot of pressure on us."

Thoughts on this?

 

[hawkeyeguy69]

We definitely are not instinctual when it comes to rebounding the ball. Fran could use some work there. Or at least our players could .

There were moments when I remember saying to myself, "pay attention people!". Multiple times. Something like that. My daughter said use nice words dad. So, maybe it wasn't that PC.... But my point is that we weren't getting in position for the incoming rebound. We were just standing there. And it seemd like the entire team on several occassions. While Dayton just moved around us. Dayton was agressive to the ball. We looked lackadaisical. Slap them upside the head Fran!

We need to be agressive. We need to be using the backside and arms to block out, just after the ball is released. Maybe a couple coaching sessions with Dr Tom would help?? It certainly couldn't hurt. The guy was the master. I remember Alford brought him in a couple times(the only respectful thing the guy did, even if it was for self benefiting reasons). McCaffery could do the same.

Learning from others is something we do for our entire lives. It can only help. Ferentz and staff have did this several times, learn from other coaching staffs. Including just this past off season. If somebody does something better than you, pick their brain, if you are so lucky...

I like the Davis fear factor...

"If our man gets a rebound on us, we know that we're going to find ourselves on the bench right away," Bowen said. "Some of it has to do with being afraid. Coach Davis puts a lot of pressure on us."


Fran needs to add the Davis fear factor. But with his own touch. Rebound or die trying.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

The rest need to take a lesson from Woody on blocking out

 

[SDHawkDoc]

There is a toughness factor that seems to be lacking.
I'm hoping that among the trio of Uhl, Wagner, and Jones one or more of them step up and take on a more ruthless attitude as to owning the paint and rebounding on both ends of the floor.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Baer probably has less backside to use than anyone on the team, but he understands positioning and moving without the ball. He still has 3 more years to use his natural abilities, but Uhl still does a lot of standing around watching and then hurrying when he has the ball.

 

[nu2u]

Baer probably has less backside to use than anyone on the team, but he understands positioning and moving without the ball. He still has 3 more years to use his natural abilities, but Uhl still does a lot of standing around watching and then hurrying when he has the ball.

This, exactly.

If you could somehow blend Baer's instincts and hustle together with Uhl's height and jumping ability you would have a Ryan Bowen rebounding machine. Actually, Fran just needs Uhl to be more assertive.

 

[Mohawkeye]

Uhl doesn't get it yet. Seems like he did a better job of rebounding last year. He can reach with his long arms and I think that makes him complacent. He should be the best rebounder on the team, but he needs to learn hustle from Baer and Wagner.

 

[djwoody]

This team badly needs a power forward and some beef to back up Woodbury. We will get worked inside quite a bit this season.

 

[Jim4edwards]

This team badly needs a power forward and some beef to back up Woodbury. We will get worked inside quite a bit this season.

I agree. Too bad T Cook isn't there this year. His combination of bulk and explosiveness could help this team, assuming he transitioned to college smoothly. I'm intrigued to see how Fran will address the rebounding issue.

 

[OnceAhawk]

watch the games closely; do we do a good job blocking out? should be be giving up 10 offensive rebounds to Dayton?

if it were Iowa with a +6 rebounding average instead of a -6, that's a 12 possession turn around and we win the game, correct? heck, even if it were even, Iowa wins, correct?

+6 is not much to ask for when you have a 7'1 Woodbury, a 6'10 Uthoff, etc.

+6 (heck, ZERO!) is not much to ask for when Dr Tom had teams with a +13 rebounding margin.

Rebounding helps you win games.

The -6 rebounding margin last night helped us lose a very close game.

 

[EastIowaHawk]

We just don't seem to have a junk-yard dog attitude toward rebounding. Some bounders are coming in next year, but this group needs to get nastier.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Instinct plays a part.
Desire and tenacity are probably more important.
Combine those with decent physical skills and a great rebounder can result.