Is our Democracy in jeopardy?
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We aren’t a democracy. We are a constitutional republic.
From the Greeks till now smart people understood that a pure democracy would lead to chaos and abuse of minorities by the majority.
That is why individual liberties are written into our constitution.
This is why our military oath is to protect and defend the Constitution.
From the Greeks till now smart people understood that a pure democracy would lead to chaos and abuse of minorities by the majority.
That is why individual liberties are written into our constitution.
This is why our military oath is to protect and defend the Constitution.
The US is a representative democracy that has been corrupted by money.
No, we are a constitutional republic where the people are the highest authority NOT the government. That's why we have a constitution. It doesn't grant rights, it provides protections from government over reach
I see that the smart people are awake this morning. The trolls will be coming out soon.
You are getting tripped up on semantics.
51% of representatives can depending on filibuster rules. 51% would also be enough to get a representative to a place to vote. 51% could get a say on ballot initiatives. So sometimes, yes.
I don't want to beat you up on this. But find what our founding fathers said about what they thought of a Democracy government. What you just said was 100% what they didn't want.
So were Egyptians, all of Europe, Japanese, Mongolians, Persians, Palestinians, African Tribes, Mayans, American Indians, Romans, etc, so what's your point? Should we not have any Constitution? Stupidest comment of the day.
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He was being facetious. Your head is too far up your own ass to understand that. KYP.
The founding fathers typically made a distinction between a "pure" or direct democracy as the fear of a direct democracy lends itself to tyranny as it is not a practicable form of government for a large dispersed group of people.
As posted previously one of the founders spoke favorably of representative democracy:
Hamilton spoke of the virtues of a "representative democracy" in a letter to
to Gouverneur Morris, 19 May 1777
But a representative democracy, where the right of election is well secured and regulated & the exercise of the legislative, executive and judiciary authorities, is vested in select persons, chosen really and not nominally by the people, will in my opinion be most likely to be happy, regular and durable.
What does the OP mean by “the majority”?
Trump and MAGAts are a danger to the US Constitution and they do not need a “majority” to take power and destroy what America is today. Republicans cannot get a majority of the popular vote...but they don’t need one to “win” the WH...in this century only Junior (second term) won the popular election as a Republican.
The Constitution’s unique “electoral college” system of Presidential election and how current Congressional districts are gerrymandered, the GOP has better than 50-50 odds to win the WH every election cycle.
Trump and MAGAts are a danger to the US Constitution and they do not need a “majority” to take power and destroy what America is today. Republicans cannot get a majority of the popular vote...but they don’t need one to “win” the WH...in this century only Junior (second term) won the popular election as a Republican.
The Constitution’s unique “electoral college” system of Presidential election and how current Congressional districts are gerrymandered, the GOP has better than 50-50 odds to win the WH every election cycle.
In a lot of ways I think it’s already gone. Between gerrymandering and Citizens United our votes a significantly watered down. In certain areas or states no matter how good or much better a Dem or GOP candidate may be. They have no chance. Or if someone does get in they have to go beggint for money non stop to the same millionaires and billionaires.
I don't even know how to respond to that. It truly is the dumbest statement I've ever heard.
This is a serious question for you. Do you need help tying your shoes in the morning?
Edit note: when was the last president that received more than 50% of the vote?
I was joking/sarcastic hence the smilies I included in the post
So one did. This is the same guy who asked Washington to be king too. No matter what if you doing something in a group, you will always have different points of view. In the end they didn't want democracy as the form of government. Our leaders have distorted our Constitution Republic in order to get to a democracy. Nansy is probably the most guilty of this. Our Constitution is the process of elections. The Constitution gives the voters of the public the decisions of the people. Democracy was something that the representatives have put into their own system of governing. Today our elected officials are not following our constitution. 51% does not get the chance to do whatever they want just because they have the majority. Infact it's the direct opposite, by the Founding Fathers, said it was their duty to protect the 49%.
Of course it is, popular vote doesn't elect our highest office and even when the popular vote winner does manage to also win the electoral college one party was willing to engage in shenanigans to overturn that result.
Dems may whine and cry and make accusations of cheating when they lose. But the leader of the party has never called a state election official demanding that they "find votes", they have never put together at least in our lifetimes a fake set of electors.
We'll still vote but one party is going to make it very clear that their officials will decide who wins regardless of how we vote.
Dems may whine and cry and make accusations of cheating when they lose. But the leader of the party has never called a state election official demanding that they "find votes", they have never put together at least in our lifetimes a fake set of electors.
We'll still vote but one party is going to make it very clear that their officials will decide who wins regardless of how we vote.
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