Is the country ready for a gay president?

[hawkifann]

I just don't think it's a significant negative. Could be a negative, but not something that couldn't be overcome.

Sort of like Obama being black. People were saying the same thing about being black. And it probably was a negative. (possibility it wasn't, technically) But it didn't prove to be one that couldn't be overcome easily enough with an otherwise good candidate.

Size of effect.

I think there was a tipping point with Obama. It’s a negative until masses actually start to realize that there’s a chance and then in the end I think it became a positive down the stretch. Hard to picture a gay candidate getting to that level of positive down the stretch, but as the father of a gay son, I really hope I’m wrong or that we get there. Not that I think he’d be POTUS, but I’m all for knocking down barriers.

 

[joelbc1]

I remember when people were shocked that a Catholic was elected president.

Well, not really... I'm not quite that old. But I read the stories about it.

Well, this one is “bi”…

 

[Hawky4361]

There is a good chance that JD Vance will become our first gay president soon.

Nope...Barack beat him to it, but I guess it's what he identifies as that's important...

 

[Jerome Silberman]

There is a good chance that JD Vance will become our first gay president soon.

I thought couches were non binary?

 

[Colonoscopy]

I think there was a tipping point with Obama. It’s a negative until masses actually start to realize that there’s a chance and then in the end I think it became a positive down the stretch. Hard to picture a gay candidate getting to that level of positive down the stretch, but as the father of a gay son, I really hope I’m wrong or that we get there. Not that I think he’d be POTUS, but I’m all for knocking down barriers.

Well, if you were to think about the status of black women in America given a lot of the rhetoric read on the topic of black women, you'd have a hard time believing that a black woman could ever be a powerful billionaire in America.

But then there's Oprah, worth 2.5B.

I think we spend so much time on thinking about some of these social problems that we lose track of what is actually possible.

I think the left struggles with this.

 

[Bierhalter]

If a homophonic bigot like Obama can change his mind on gay marriage, I'd say the country is ready for a gay president.

What is "Obama" a homophone with?

 

[hawkifann]

Well, if you were to think about the status of black women in America given a lot of the rhetoric read on the topic of black women, you'd have a hard time believing that a black woman could ever be a powerful billionaire in America.

But then there's Oprah, worth 2.5B.

I think we spend so much time on thinking about some of these social problems that we lose track of what is actually possible.

I think the left struggles with this.

Excellent point there. We have seen gay and even trans candidates elected to national office, so there are possibilities. Would certainly have to be someone with much charisma and likely a big grassroots following for sure.

 

[5545]

What is "Obama" a homophone with?

Lol. Spell check.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Obama was ghey. Next question.

 

[uihawk82]

Spinning off another thread.. curious what people think?

Is a gay candidate electable?

I say no, unfortunately. Still too many people who are repulsed by anything or anyone LGBTQ.

Thoughts?

I voted YES because it could happen sometime in the future. Personnally I think Mayor Pete B. is so much smarter than most all senators and House Reps. He is smarter and very articulate beyond many career civil servant workers.

I am not saying he would win now but someone like him or him in the future.

And If Trump and the Repubs **** this term up really bad then about any Dem will win in 2028

 

[uihawk82]

Excellent point there. We have seen gay and even trans candidates elected to national office, so there are possibilities. Would certainly have to be someone with much charisma and likely a big grassroots following for sure.

And there could be total dislike of one party by the masses which could open up the Prez office for many different people.

 

[hawksurprize]

Nope

I thought the sitting president was gay.

 

[dgordo]

It’s legitimately possible gay marriage will be banned in the next 2 years. No, I don’t see a gay president in the next few decades.

 

[TDJ7]

I just want a President with common sense.

 

[fezzador]

I think a large part of it is matchups. Of course America is “ready” for a female POTUS, or a LGBT POTUS, just like they were “ready” for a POC.

Trump was an “X” factor that emboldened bigotry. Obama would have lost to Trump, I believe.

 

[Ferentz_Fan]

NPH gay, or Barney gay?

 

[DFSNOLE]

We've been told here that a big reason Harris lost was due to the Democrats support of LGBTQ rights and policies. If true, and that was a large part of why America elected the first convicted felon president, the answer to the question posed in the OP is clear.

 

[Ferentz_Fan]

We've been told here that a big reason Harris lost was due to the Democrats support of LGBTQ rights and policies. If true, and that was a large part of why America elected the first convicted felon president, the answer to the question posed in the OP is clear.

You are picking your words here. No issue with support but the policies were a factor.

 

[Scruddy]

We already had Obama

 

[joelbc1]

I thought the sitting president was gay.

No, not “gay”…. He is “bi”!

 

[hawksense]

I think the same. You know it’s sort of reminiscent of how many people wouldn’t vote for Romney back in ‘08 just because he was a Mormon.

He’s Mormon?

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Sure.

 

[hawksense]

Lindsay Graham. End of discussion.

Perhaps, a “reformed “ gay could pull it off? Just for the campaign.

 

[goldmom]

I think Richard Grenell is a very competent dude.
(Let the personal insults commence)

 

[DFSNOLE]

Lindsay Graham. End of discussion.

Perhaps, a “reformed “ gay could pull it off? Just for the campaign.

You think Graham is electable for president? No way.

 

[pjhawk]

Kamala Harris got 75,017,613 votes. Plenty of Americans voted for a woman.

Trump won by less than 2%.

And Hillary actually got 2% plus more actual votes than Trump. Just the fluke of the electoral college prevented this from already happening.

 

[goldmom]

We've been told here that a big reason Harris lost was due to the Democrats support of LGBTQ rights and policies. If true, and that was a large part of why America elected the first convicted felon president, the answer to the question posed in the OP is clear.

Oh. Gosh I was “told” the biggest reason was a majority of voters rejected the open borders- and thought the Democratic candidate wouldn’t address it.
That was followed closely by an overall dissatisfaction with economic issues like gas (and EGGS)
Hmm.

 

[goldmom]

You think Graham is electable for president? No way.

I wouldn’t vote for him, but it’s more to do with his political views on some issues over time.
If by chance he was elected though, he might do an okay job. He knows where a whole lot of bodies are buried, politically speaking.

 

[funksouljon]

We've been told here that a big reason Harris lost was due to the Democrats support of LGBTQ rights and policies. If true, and that was a large part of why America elected the first convicted felon president, the answer to the question posed in the OP is clear.

Ignoring the snark in your post, he told people what they wanted to hear even tho it was mostly lies. But, most will never admit it.

Trump was able to collect single issue voters. Angry about abortion. Angry about the border. Angry about losing in 2020. Angry about American moving away from white male dominance. Angry about trans and social issues. Angry about the COVID recovery.

And she still lost by .5% . with some bad policy positions, bad messaging by the party, campaign of 100 days vs 4 years, and lack of ability to speak to the economic issues.

 

[libbity bibbity]

I thought couches were non binary?

And Tim Walz knows how to load a shotgun?

 

[libbity bibbity]

And Hillary actually got 2% plus more actual votes than Trump. Just the fluke of the electoral college prevented this from already happening.

That "fluke" is how we elect our presidents, is it not?

 

[RicoSuave102954]

I voted YES because it could happen sometime in the future. Personnally I think Mayor Pete B. is so much smarter than most all senators and House Reps. He is smarter and very articulate beyond many career civil servant workers.

I am not saying he would win now but someone like him or him in the future.

And If Trump and the Repubs **** this term up really bad then about any Dem will win in 2028

11 days in and uihawk is already playing the "we got this" in 2028 game. LOL

 

[Jerome Silberman]

And Tim Walz knows how to load a shotgun?

 

[hawksense]

You think Graham is electable for president? No way.

No. He’s gay and gets re-elected ALL THE TIME! Folks won’t say he is, unless he’s not around.

I’m guessing he spews enough of what his constituents believe to continue getting elected. That’s the bottom line. Say the popular thing. And repeat it, brainwashing style.

 

[bagdropper]

Hell, I think more than half of America isn't ready for a gay food server let alone a gay president.

 

[The Tradition]

We've been told here that a big reason Harris lost was due to the Democrats support of LGBTQ rights and policies. If true, and that was a large part of why America elected the first convicted felon president, the answer to the question posed in the OP is clear.

No, the "big reason" Kamala lost is she's completely unlikeable.

 

[SeaPA]

No, the "big reason" Kamala lost is she's completely unlikeable.

trump is also completely unlikeable and has won twice.

 

[SeaPA]

I'm honestly shocked that 30% of the board voted yes.

 

[The Tradition]

trump is also completely unlikeable and has won twice.

Like it or not, half the voters were energized by Trump.

No one was energized by Kamala... just energized against Trump.

That's a losing hand every time.

 

[abby97]

Why would you care? Would a gay president be better or worse than a straight president? Do blondes or brunettes make better presidents?