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Is the market collapse BHO's fault?

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I assume it is because many Dems on this very board said the rise was thanks to his policies. In other news, An economic slowdown right now is the lefts biggest enemy
 
I assume it is because many Dems on this very board said the rise was thanks to his policies. In other news, An economic slowdown right now is the lefts biggest enemy

Well since this isn't due to an American economic slowdown, no worries then. Try harder next time.
 
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I suspect it is capitalism's fault if we are assigning blame...since boom and bust is part and parcel of capitalism.
 
Nope, just like it's not his doing when the economy is doing good. Why the Presidents get any credit in this is beyond me. They practically have no say in it. The only thing they can do is appoint a Fed Chairman, which is already chosen amongst the banking community, and hope that the appointed person isn't a complete deviant.
 
If it was GWBs fault then it is also Obamas fault.



(I don't think it is either of their faults but we need to keep partisan politics alive)
 
I assume it is because many Dems on this very board said the rise was thanks to his policies. In other news, An economic slowdown right now is the lefts biggest enemy
I assume it is because many Dems on this very board said the rise was thanks to his policies. In other news, An economic slowdown right now is the lefts biggest enemy

This is a China based collapse. The domestic numbers are pretty solid for the past couple of months.
 
I assume it is because many Dems on this very board said the rise was thanks to his policies. In other news, An economic slowdown right now is the lefts biggest enemy

1st, there's no collapse.

B, this is a classic "suckers' crash": A "sell-off" to scare people into getting out so that the big players can buy back in for cheap and watch it run up again.
 
This is a China based collapse. The domestic numbers are pretty solid for the past couple of months.

The 2008 collapse was due to a liquidity crisis, did GWB create the liquidity crisis?
 
Absolutely.

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If it was GWBs fault then it is also Obamas fault.

When did I miss the S&P falling to 865? If you knew the history of corrections and bear markets you would understand what is happening. Ask your financial advisor for his opinion. Hell... ask more than one advisor. The one thing that bear markets should remind people to do is to diversify.



(I don't think it is either of their faults but we need to keep partisan politics alive)
 
I assume it is because many Dems on this very board said the rise was thanks to his policies. In other news, An economic slowdown right now is the lefts biggest enemy
Let's blame Hillary. This gets some of the media feeding frenzy off of her email scandal. Wag the dog.
 
Nope, just like it's not his doing when the economy is doing good. Why the Presidents get any credit in this is beyond me. They practically have no say in it. The only thing they can do is appoint a Fed Chairman, which is already chosen amongst the banking community, and hope that the appointed person isn't a complete deviant.
Why do they get credit? Because we Americans like simple answers. We like labels too, because good and evil are easy to discern and require very little thought.

You oppose gay marriage? Bigot
You think taxpayer dollars should be spent to expand food stamp programs? Socialist

See how easy it is?
 
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Why do they get credit? Because we Americans like simple answers. We like labels too, because good and evil are easy to discern and require very little thought.

You oppose gay marriage? Bigot
You think taxpayer dollars should be spent to expand food stamp programs? Socialist

See how easy it is?
It really is that easy these days. Despite our advancements, we seem to be less advanced in understanding how anything actually works.
 
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Nope, just like it's not his doing when the economy is doing good. Why the Presidents get any credit in this is beyond me. They practically have no say in it. The only thing they can do is appoint a Fed Chairman, which is already chosen amongst the banking community, and hope that the appointed person isn't a complete deviant.

Well, not launching unfunded wars and signing certain legislation can certainly influence the economy, but yeah, the President's influence is more like the type of fuel used to make a car go fast. It can have an impact, but there's a lot of more important things that have a more direct effect on it.
 
I suspect it is capitalism's fault if we are assigning blame...since boom and bust is part and parcel of capitalism.


Just a question:

What happened to the Boom this time around? It has not developed ... it's more of a bust followed by (an Obama inspired) muddle along ... and then another bust.

We have not fixed a single problem or causal issue from the last time around ... so anything that happens going forward is absolutely to be blamed on government policy ... and that would be President Obama.
 
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Barack Hussein Obama and the liberals are much to blame, this constant spending and printing phoney money is the root cause of this. Obama has grown nothing during his 7 years in office. Propping up a phoney economy with the Fed has led to this. China is a miniscule portion of this.

The looney left have steered the country down this path and the chickens have come home to roost.

Your hope and change has arrived comrades.
 
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I assume it is because many Dems on this very board said the rise was thanks to his policies. In other news, An economic slowdown right now is the lefts biggest enemy

I think it more accurate to think "the rise" was due to the Feds policies...endorsed by the Obama Administration. Obama really did nothing more and nothing less that any other Administration would have done. An "economic slowdown" is the worst thing that can happen for any Administration, Dem or GOPer. Ask Jimmy Carter and ask Bush Senior. Ask any one term POTUS.
The problem though is NOT the American economy...it is the devaluation and slow down of the economy in China. Very little of this has to do with Obama, his Administration or the Fed.
 
One other event that is being overlooked by almost everyone:

Europe just played a dramatic game of Chicken with Greece ... and Greece won.

This was the one forum out there where there was a possible positive outcome for Capitalism ... and Poof! ... the good guys lost.
 
I think it more accurate to think "the rise" was due to the Feds policies...endorsed by the Obama Administration. Obama really did nothing more and nothing less that any other Administration would have done. An "economic slowdown" is the worst thing that can happen for any Administration, Dem or GOPer. Ask Jimmy Carter and ask Bush Senior. Ask any one term POTUS.
The problem though is NOT the American economy...it is the devaluation and slow down of the economy in China. Very little of this has to do with Obama, his Administration or the Fed.
BS, the Fed has a huge hand in this. This is not being caused solely because of China. This is a worldwide problem.
 
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