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Is tipping getting out of control? Yes! 100x YES!

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Tipping fatigue, it seems, is swarming America as more businesses adopt digital payment methods that automatically prompts customers to leave a gratuity. <---------followed by that awkward moment as you have to decide to click 'No Tip', 15%, 18%, etc. for someone to throw my burger in a sack.

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Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes

Across the country, there’s a silent frustration brewing about an age-old practice that many say is getting out of hand: tipping. As more businesses adopt digital payment methods, customers are automatically being prompted to leave a gratuity — many times as high as 30% — at places they...
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I never feel bad about not tipping at pick up places like Subway or ModPizza or a place like that. That’s just the business model.

However, my daughter works as a hostess at a nice restaurant and she has to gather and assemble the to-go orders and it’s a fair amount of work. For places like that I usually still tip 10-15% but you’d be surprised at how many people leave no tip.
 
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My wife instinctively grabs the check now because she knows if I see some kind of mandatory gratuity on it, I'm going to ask to have it removed
 
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Formerly Rockymtnole said:
I never feel bad about not tipping at pick up places like Subway or ModPizza or a place like that. That’s just the business model.

However, my daughter works as a hostess at a nice restaurant and she has to gather and assemble the to-go orders and it’s a fair amount of work. For places like that I usually still tip 10-15% but you’d be surprised at how many people leave no tip.
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Wait a second. The hostess putting the food n the bag and throwing some utensils in the bag is more work than the kid making the sandwich at subway and putting it in the bag? Sorry bro, that makes no sense.
 
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luvmyhawks said:
Wait a second. The hostess putting the food n the bag and throwing some utensils in the bag is more work than the kid making the sandwich at subway and putting it in the bag? Sorry bro, that makes no sense.
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The hostess' job is to be pretty and welcome guests, show them to their tables and hand out menus.

If they're asking her to deliver food, then she's a waitress.
 
West Duval Nole said:
When I waited tables, the kitchen staff got none of the tips. We had tip share that went to the hostesses and the bartenders. It was like 2-3% of our total sales. So if we got stiffed on a tip, then we in essence had to pay to wait on those cheap bastards.
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Good point. That was the same back when I was waiting tables. My sons first job was as a dishwasher. They tipped out the entire kitchen. I did think that was kind of odd but he averaged almost 4 bucks more an hours ur from tips. He still hated that job though.
 
The Tradition said:
The hostess' job is to be pretty and welcome guests, show them to their tables and hand out menus.

If they're asking her to deliver food, then she's a waitress.
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The people come in to pick up the food unless it is a curbside order. Basically they bag the order and put utensils in the bag and take the customers payment if it wasn't already paid for. So they take the food that is in to go containers, make sure the order is accurate, put it in a bag along with any other utensils and extras and give it to the customer or take it to the customer's vehicle and take payment.
 
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The people come in to pick up the food unless it is a curbside order. Basically they bag the order and put utensils in the bag and take the customers payment if it wasn't already paid for. So they take the food that is in to go containers, make sure the order is accurate, put it in a bag along with any other utensils and extras and give it to the customer or take it to the customer's vehicle and take payment.
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Soooo, a waitress.
 
luvmyhawks said:
Wait a second. The hostess putting the food n the bag and throwing some utensils in the bag is more work than the kid making the sandwich at subway and putting it in the bag? Sorry bro, that makes no sense.
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They take phone orders, put the order in, get the food from the kitchen, pack it up, get all the extra sauces and breads and extra crap people ask for, get it all ready for pick up, etc.

I guess you could say it’s the same as making a sandwich at Subway but I think it’s different. I don’t tip the normal 20-25% but do tip something.
 
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The Tradition said:
The hostess' job is to be pretty and welcome guests, show them to their tables and hand out menus.

If they're asking her to deliver food, then she's a waitress.
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It’s a small place. My daughter is the front person greeting and seating customers, busses tables, runs food, handles the phone and takes call in orders, DokrDash, Uber Eats, etc. Her first job and she loves it.
 
MitchLL said:
I actually tip more now than I used to because I'm able to do it.

If others tip like I do, some of the waite staff are likely making an extra $50-$75/ hour. Maybe they share with the kitchen staff?
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We're not talking wait staff that makes $2.15 per hour. We're talking about the Chic-fil-A clerk making $15 an hour who now gets an additional 15-20% for pulling the chicken samach off the heater and dropping it in a bag. When we tip, it's a monetary form of "thank you" for a job well done (or not) and now we're expected to tip in advance of a service not yet completed.

In all honesty it's an insult to actual wait staff.
 
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bhawk24bob said:
My wife instinctively grabs the check now because she knows if I see some kind of mandatory gratuity on it, I'm going to ask to have it removed
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Along these lines...from time to time I am paying for a large group bill at a restaurant, attraction or suchlike and there is nowadays often a "line" on the ticket that reads something like, "Gratuity" or "Service Fee", etc. These lines are prefilled and are usually in the neighborhood of 20%'ish.

OK, cool, I want the workers providing the service to get a tip and 20%'ish is fine. BUT...then there is also a line for "Tip", on the amount of food/beverage, etc, AND also the aforementioned "Gratuity", etc. What?

I am being asked to provide a second tip...on an amount that already includes a tip?? Yea, no thank you. The last time this happened I asked the supervisor in charge to explain to me the difference between the two "opportunities" to provide a tip, and they couldn't.

So I didn't pay the second one and until someone can explain to me why I am being asked, somewhat surreptitiously, to pay for two tips...I am not going to. What gives??
 
Old_wrestling_fan said:
Along these lines...from time to time I am paying for a large group bill at a restaurant, attraction or suchlike and there is nowadays often a "line" on the ticket that reads something like, "Gratuity" or "Service Fee", etc. These lines are prefilled and are usually in the neighborhood of 20%'ish.

OK, cool, I want the workers providing the service to get a tip and 20%'ish is fine. BUT...then there is also a line for "Tip", on the amount of food/beverage, etc, AND also the aforementioned "Gratuity", etc. What?

I am being asked to provide a second tip...on an amount that already includes a tip?? Yea, no thank you. The last time this happened I asked the supervisor in charge to explain to me the difference between the two "opportunities" to provide a tip, and they couldn't.

So I didn't pay the second one and until someone can explain to me why I am being asked, somewhat surreptitiously, to pay for two tips...I am not going to. What gives??
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I have been told the answer is establishment-specific. Whatever you write on the line goes to the server, in full. The mandatory charge.....

Ever notice how that 20% or whatever is 20% of the charge + entertainment/covid/health insurance/tax? Yep no, I'm not tipping on sales tax.
 
Tipping is supposed to be for exceptional service.

I tip over the counter but it should really only be expected if the person is serving you at your table, refilling drinks/getting beers, and bringing you a side of ranch when you ask for it when you order and don't have to ask again after the food is ordered.
 
Carry out, curbside, pouring hot water in a mug and grabbing a tea bag, making a blizzard… forget about it.
 
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