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Is Trump the Dumbest Person to become a leader of a Nation?

Is Trump the Dumbest Person to become a leader of a Nation?

  • Yes

    Votes: 106 74.6%
  • No

    Votes: 36 25.4%

  • Total voters
    142
I've posted before, when I lived in New York he was notorious clown. He would have known he was humiliating himself if he was smart enough to know he was humiliating himself. It was obvious to New Yorkers he and his family were beyond audacious. There was a reason he had to go abroad to secure financing.

His sister, a judge retired amid investigations into her family's tax practices. The Orange Turd's poor judgement and lack of business sense led to Atlantic City casino failures which ended in bankruptcies. The civil suit settlements against him are documented. He has skated by and circumvented criminal charges via friendly courts and received sentences for 34 felonies.

It's not if but when the movie is made. It will not be pretty for the Orange Turd family. And this is before the shit pile gets higher.
Bankrupted a casino in Atlantic City, land of the biggest gambling degenerates in the country. That takes talent.
 
Orange Turd
Orange Dumbfcvk.
Orange Shithead.

Now it's Orange Second Fiddle since we have President Rasputin.

He's a convicted felon. A con-man, carnival barking fraud licking the groin of a superior con-man.
Aww, does the poor whittle lib feel better now?
 
Bankrupted a casino in Atlantic City, land of the biggest gambling degenerates in the country. That takes talent.

You're too kind. His bankruptcies:

1991 Trump Yaj Mahaj
1992: Trump Castle Gotel & Casino
1992: Trump Plasa Casino
1992: Trump Plaza Hotel
2004: Trump Hotels & Casinos Resorts

And contrary to the MAGA script, I don't think he filed for these BKs to reorganize debt. He lost these properties, his credit and whatever respect he had (it had to be self-respect). The credit he was using was junk bonds and high interest loans which precluded solvency (there are reasons for business failures). He resisted advice and counsel.
 
You're too kind. His bankruptcies:

1991 Trump Yaj Mahaj
1992: Trump Castle Gotel & Casino
1992: Trump Plasa Casino
1992: Trump Plaza Hotel
2004: Trump Hotels & Casinos Resorts

And contrary to the MAGA script, I don't think he filed for these BKs to reorganize debt. He lost these properties, his credit and whatever respect he had (it had to be self-respect). The credit he was using was junk bonds and high interest loans which precluded solvency (there are reasons for business failures). He resisted advice and counsel.
So what you’re saying in addition to not being smart, he’s a bad businessman…well, isn’t that interesting.
 
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So what you’re saying in addition to not being smart, he’s a bad businessman…well, isn’t that interesting.

If he was unable to get financing within the United States, I'd question his business acumen.

His resorts and golf clubs are in financial distress currently. Who knows what access he has to Mid East financing, or what he has grifted through his WH connections. We do know he is a "person of low character" with a history of fraud and criminal behavior.
 
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If he was unable to get financing within the United States, I'd question his business acumen.

His resorts and golf clubs are in financial distress currently. Who knows what access he has to Mid East financing, or what he has grifted through his WH connections. We do know he is a "person of low character" with a history of fraud and criminal behavior.
How do you know his resorts and golf courses are in financial distress?
 
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From Business Insider:

"Donald Trump's golf resorts lose a lot of money. According to a bombshell New York Times report published last year, the 15 courses he owns around the world have lost over $315 million over the past 20 years. The interesting question is why does Trump hang on to so many money-losing enterprises?".

I can read,
His like... 18 bankrupt companies say... what? Losing money? Ain't that the way it's supposed to be?
 
Uh Huh Yes GIF
I guess Forbes is lying when they list his net worth at $5.8 billion, huh?
Totally legit I'm sure. That's why he has to borrow from Bahama Mama Bank and Kremlin Bank & Trust.
 
Billionaire my ass. Just goes to show the lengths people will go to for party over country.

Thousands, millions, billions are clouds in the sky in the world of finance. When the markets crashed in the 20s/30s and post Bush rich became destitute.
 
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“…unironically a moron, rags.”

Lol. I love it.

The question isn’t about elocution. It’s about intellectual capacity.
Like how biden opened the flood gates on illegal immigration? Real mental capacity on display with that border crisis he created.

Remember when your side lied and claimed legislation was needed to fix the border but then trump cut border crossings by over 90% in less than a month without any legislation? Fun times.
 
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Like how biden opened the flood gates on illegal immigration? Real mental capacity on display with that border crisis he created.

Remember when your side lied and claimed legislation was needed to fix the border but then trump cut border crossings by over 90% in less than a month without any legislation? Fun times.
Why are you ascribing positions to me I have never taken?

Again, this is solely about intelligence or intellectual capacity. Not who is right or wrong on particular issues.

Btw, I have always said Biden and Dems are epic failures on the border. With that said, throwing out random numbers like 90% is laughable.
 
Why are you ascribing positions to me I have never taken?

Again, this is solely about intelligence or intellectual capacity. Not who is right or wrong on particular issues.

Btw, I have always said Biden and Dems are epic failures on the border. With that said, throwing out random numbers like 90% is laughable.
They're not my numbers, they're from DHS lol
 
Totally legit I'm sure. That's why he has to borrow from Bahama Mama Bank and Kremlin Bank & Trust.

These nitwits have no idea what's going on. Turn the info switch to off and nothing is important except what Stupid TV filters to them.

They'll happily watch and listen to the 24 hour daily sophomoric acerbic propaganda since it's in tune with their inability to cope with reality.

To those who berate MSNBC. Listen to Stupid TV moderators and personalities for an evening then dedicate and evening to MSNBC. If you have an education level adequate to comprehend the conversations om MSNBC, you'll find a difference. I'm not talking about content or political positions; I'm talking about intellectual efficacy and approach.

Fox is more popular because it appeals to a larger audience - a lower educated, lower intelligent audience. Fine. Those with a negative opinion fit in these categories. I'm OK with this. Being dumb can be selective as well as incidental. From my perspective, it's not a matter of elitism or condensation. Many of my friends and relatives are Stupid TV fans and MAGAs. Some are well educated. They've elected to be dumb.

It will be interesting to see how they feel in a year or 2.
 
These nitwits have no idea what's going on. Turn the info switch to off and nothing is important except what Stupid TV filters to them.

They'll happily watch and listen to the 24 hour daily sophomoric acerbic propaganda since it's in tune with their inability to cope with reality.

To those who berate MSNBC. Listen to Stupid TV moderators and personalities for an evening then dedicate and evening to MSNBC. If you have an education level adequate to comprehend the conversations om MSNBC, you'll find a difference. I'm not talking about content or political positions; I'm talking about intellectual efficacy and approach.

Fox is more popular because it appeals to a larger audience - a lower educated, lower intelligent audience. Fine. Those with a negative opinion fit in these categories. I'm OK with this. Being dumb can be selective as well as incidental. From my perspective, it's not a matter of elitism or condensation. Many of my friends and relatives are Stupid TV fans and MAGAs. Some are well educated. They've elected to be dumb.

It will be interesting to see how they feel in a year or 2.
I didn't vote this last election because I couldn't hold my nose hard enough. I have voted Republican and Democrat in the past. I would not vote for Biden or Harris. All the Republicans had to do was give me a reasonable candidate. That would have secured my vote. Instead they roll with the con man, the dummy, the guy that nobody of importance likes or respects. But hey, team red won. Now they can reap it.
 
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I get that, but I don't think he's calculating enough or smart enough for that comparison. He's a petulant child.
Oh, he’s plenty calculating. You can tell that from his pre-2016 statements and actions.

Stated that if he ever wanted to win the presidency, he’d run as a Republican because that group is easier to manipulate (paraphrasing)

“I love the poorly educated.” He knew the vessel to get him where he wanted to go.

There are lessons from the Greek/Romans that he clearly understands, too: Control the “mob” (ie. The ignorant masses) and you control political power because of all the politicians that depend on that same mob for their own position of power.

Undermine any threats to ascendency- he did this early on by attacking the media and destroying our trust in what they say. He continues to do this against any person, organization or group that opposes him.

Keep the masses pre-occupied with shiny objects while you do your dirtiest work out of site and without scrutiny. “Bread and circuses” if you will.

And finally, “flood the zone” - he throws out so much crazy and (sometimes meaningless) shyte that no one can keep up with all of it and those who try eventually become fatigued and have to disengage or let it drive them insane. Either way, it’s a “win” for Trump.

So is he Dumb? Probably not. But he is definitely an immoral, narcissistic, sociopath with an extreme obsession with fame and fortune.
 
Trump has always rambled on. He was the joke of NYC. “I’m going to build stadiums for the Olympics, they will be the best Olympics ever”.

We had a lot of fun ridiculing him back in the ‘80’s. Oh, did I mention he was a Democrat back then.

I scoffed at the idea from Michael Moore that it was all about TV ratings.
I often reflect on that and think maybe Michael Moore was correct.

Wow, just wow. Reflecting back on Michael Moore. You really are bad off.
 
Oh, he’s plenty calculating. You can tell that from his pre-2016 statements and actions.

Stated that if he ever wanted to win the presidency, he’d run as a Republican because that group is easier to manipulate (paraphrasing)

“I love the poorly educated.” He knew the vessel to get him where he wanted to go.

There are lessons from the Greek/Romans that he clearly understands, too: Control the “mob” (ie. The ignorant masses) and you control political power because of all the politicians that depend on that same mob for their own position of power.

Undermine any threats to ascendency- he did this early on by attacking the media and destroying our trust in what they say. He continues to do this against any person, organization or group that opposes him.

Keep the masses pre-occupied with shiny objects while you do your dirtiest work out of site and without scrutiny. “Bread and circuses” if you will.

And finally, “flood the zone” - he throws out so much crazy and (sometimes meaningless) shyte that no one can keep up with all of it and those who try eventually become fatigued and have to disengage or let it drive them insane. Either way, it’s a “win” for Trump.

So is he Dumb? Probably not. But he is definitely an immoral, narcissistic, sociopath with an extreme obsession with fame and fortune.
Sorry, I guess I'm just of the opinion that those are pretty basic things that most people know, especially those that are billionaires or in any sort of position of power.
 
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Sorry, I guess I'm just of the opinion that those are pretty basic things that most people know, especially those that are billionaires or in any sort of position of power.
I understand that point of view. I guess my intent was to show that he’s not just mindlessly bumbling through these past 10 years or so. He’s been very methodical and intentional with his approach.

I mean, I loathe the man and hope he dies. But that doesn’t stop me from acknowledging that he may also be the most talented conman and grifter of the last century. And that doesn’t happen by accident.

When we assume someone is dumb, it is common to then underestimate them. And THAT, is a mistake we should never make when dealing with Trump.
 
I didn't vote this last election because I couldn't hold my nose hard enough. I have voted Republican and Democrat in the past. I would not vote for Biden or Harris. All the Republicans had to do was give me a reasonable candidate. That would have secured my vote. Instead they roll with the con man, the dummy, the guy that nobody of importance likes or respects. But hey, team red won. Now they can reap it.
And we can reap it too because too many people couldn't hold their nose and didn't vote.
 
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