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Is Trumps policies causing a recession?

How nuts is it that Trump will put our debt on steroids and we will see less money for roads and bridges, power, and every other service imaginable? He's even taking an axe to stuff like firefighting. How does it make any sense to jack up our spending and we don't even have fire fighters anymore?
 
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Let’s start with the rubes who didn’t vote in the general, find out why they say this one out? Why did EVERY state go more red than in 2020? Not all the rubes are republicans

So it's not a "back peddle" now?

Not sure why you're using quotes for something I didn't post. Wait, I do know why. Because not only are you a dumbass, you make shit up.

The operative here is that you "don't care" about anything other than what you're told something "saves".

Carry on - I'm done pulling your strings now, puppet.
I'm one of the "rubes" that didn't vote. Call me culpable, complicit or whatever the fook. Both candidates sucked beyond words. If Harris had selected the guy from PA, she may have actually won. Instead, she picks another clown. If the whole thing burns to the ground, I don't care. I am tired of selecting between two dumbshits for the highest office in the land. It's beyond ridiculous.
 
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I'm one of the "rubes" that didn't vote. Call me culpable, complicit or whatever the fook. Both candidates sucked beyond words. If Harris had selected the guy from PA, she may have actually won. Instead, she picks another clown. If the whole thing burns to the ground, I don't care. I am tired of selected between two dumbshits for the highest office in the land. It's beyond ridiculous.
Understood. Just realize you didn't do everything you reasonably could to keep Trump out of office. And now we are seeing the ramifications.
 
One argument to that is you can’t make an omelet without breaking some 10 dollar eggs. If at the end of all this, we’re paying 100 bucks to save 80, I will be 100% on board with your position.
So how does shitcanning the CFPB factor into your analysis? An agency that has cost less than $1B over its entire existence and returned over $21B to taxpayers.
 
So how does shitcanning the CFPB factor into your analysis? An agency that has cost less than $1B over its entire existence and returned over $21B to taxpayers.
How is any of this winning? Inflation is up under Trump. Stock market is down. Doge has found virtually no savings.

Even trying to drive Libs nuts is a bust. Rs aren't having a good time in these threads. They're avoiding these threads. They know Trump is circling us into the drain.

By all standards he has flunked his second term.
 
So how does shitcanning the CFPB factor into your analysis? An agency that has cost less than $1B over its entire existence and returned over $21B to taxpayers.
And??? It's not about results. It's not about money. It's about the headlines. Notice that the deficit and the debt very rarely come up in these conversations. They may come down, but they are not a high priority.

The MAGA base hates the IRS. Even if it costs billions in taxes, this is a win in the eyes of the administration.
 
I'm one of the "rubes" that didn't vote. Call me culpable, complicit or whatever the fook. Both candidates sucked beyond words. If Harris had selected the guy from PA, she may have actually won. Instead, she picks another clown. If the whole thing burns to the ground, I don't care. I am tired of selecting between two dumbshits for the highest office in the land. It's beyond ridiculous.
Dude, you’re a decent poster and I think a good dude. But to rationalize not voting for either candidate because they both sucked is bullshit. Harris was not a good candidate, this is true. Trump is dismantling our democracy and could legit cause chaos in this country and abroad. They’re not the same. You should feel guilty for not voting for the not insane candidate.
 
Dude, you’re a decent poster and I think a good dude. But to rationalize not voting for either candidate because they both sucked is bullshit. Harris was not a good candidate, this is true. Trump is dismantling our democracy and could legit cause chaos in this country and abroad. They’re not the same. You should feel guilty for not voting for the not insane candidate.

Good post.

My brother voted for Trump and drank the Kool Aid several years ago.

His wife may lose her job because of the Trump cuts.

FAFO.
 
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Dude, you’re a decent poster and I think a good dude. But to rationalize not voting for either candidate because they both sucked is bullshit. Harris was not a good candidate, this is true. Trump is dismantling our democracy and could legit cause chaos in this country and abroad. They’re not the same. You should feel guilty for not voting for the not insane candidate.
Harris wasn't a bad candidate. She was thrust in a bad situation. Given she only had a few weeks to catch up to someone who had a decade to build his campaign, she actually did a pretty good job.
 
Dude, you’re a decent poster and I think a good dude. But to rationalize not voting for either candidate because they both sucked is bullshit. Harris was not a good candidate, this is true. Trump is dismantling our democracy and could legit cause chaos in this country and abroad. They’re not the same. You should feel guilty for not voting for the not insane candidate.
But Solar, what does it say about our democracy if one person can dismantle the whole thing, if no other governing branches or representatives do anything about it? First, I don't think it is going to happen. That said, if it does, then the whole thing deserves to burn down and hopefully be rebuilt from the ashes. That is just my opinion and I get that it isn't a popular one. I doubt I am the only person that feels this way though. The political divide in this country has never been greater and it might just take something of epic proportions to turn that tide. I am likely naive and a rube, but I have been called worse things than that.
 
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Harris wasn't a bad candidate. She was thrust in a bad situation. Given she only had a few weeks to catch up to someone who had a decade to build his campaign, she actually did a pretty good job.
Dude, she’s a disaster. She got smoked in an open primary the last election cycle. She was only chosen as VP because she’s a black woman. You need to acknowledge the Dems faults if you want to be taken seriously. As it is now, you’re basically scruddy for the left. I’m just being real with ya.
 
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But Solar, what does it say about our democracy if one person can dismantle the whole thing, if no other governing branches or representatives do anything about it? First, I don't think it is going to happen. That said, if it does, then the whole thing deserves to burn down and hopefully be rebuilt from the ashes. That is just my opinion and I get that it isn't a popular one. I doubt I am the only person that feels this way though. The political divide in this country has never been greater and it might just take something of epic proportions to turn that tide. I am likely naive and a rube, but I have been called worse things than that.
I think we can all agree the executive branch has way too much power. The president should be a figure head for the most part. The fact Trump is the “Commander in Chief” of our military is quite literally insanity. He’s a draft dodging piece of shit. I hope you’re right that Trump doesn’t achieve his goal of dismantling our democracy, but wake the fvck up dude. He’s certainly trying to.
 
Dude, she’s a disaster. She got smoked in an open primary the last election cycle. She was only chosen as VP because she’s a black woman. You need to acknowledge the Dems faults if you want to be taken seriously. As it is now, you’re basically scruddy for the left. I’m just being real with ya.
Well said. I also struggle with her list of accomplishments as VP because it's real fooking short.
 
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But Solar, what does it say about our democracy if one person can dismantle the whole thing, if no other governing branches or representatives do anything about it? First, I don't think it is going to happen. That said, if it does, then the whole thing deserves to burn down and hopefully be rebuilt from the ashes. That is just my opinion and I get that it isn't a popular one. I doubt I am the only person that feels this way though. The political divide in this country has never been greater and it might just take something of epic proportions to turn that tide. I am likely naive and a rube, but I have been called worse things than that.
But that's the issue - it isn't just one individual. It's that there are tens of millions who have fallen for the grift and are supporting the regime. And millions of others who are setting back and doing nothing.
 
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But that's the issue - it isn't just one individual. It's that there are tens of millions who have fallen for the grift and are supporting the regime. And millions of others who are setting back and doing nothing.
Which then is even more reason why other branches and elected officials need to intervene, if that is the road we head down. Exactly zero of these tens of millions that have fallen for the grift will change their minds unless they see an implosion first hand.
 
Which then is even more reason why other branches and elected officials need to intervene, if that is the road we head down. Exactly zero of these tens of millions that have fallen for the grift will change their minds unless they see an implosion first hand.
How do those elected officials get there? If voters continue to vote for the enablers (or sit on the sidelines) we will continue down this path.

What would it take for you to vote against Trump and his supporters?
 
As an accountant and math guy you are wrong. You need more not necessarily as high of corporate as pre 2018 but somewhere in the middle. There is no other way to make enough cuts to even break even.
We have 3.8 trillion dollars in spending that has been deemed "mandatory", start there.

Again, haircuts are mandatory, 600 dollar haircuts are not.
 
Well said. I also struggle with her list of accomplishments as VP because it's real fooking short.

Can you give me some previous VPs that accomplished a lot during their time in office.

I mean before Pence nutted up and certified the vote the only other memorable thing he did was get yelled at by performers on stage during a play. I don't remember Biden doing much in his 8 years as VP.
 
Are you Kfdisciple? I have never seen much a group of idiots celebrating other people losing jobs. When John Deere lays off workers the CEO doesn't bring a chainsaw to the announcement.
Wtf - I’m not “celebrating” anyone losing their job? Was just curious if she was optimistic on getting another job. Between my wife and I…we generally were a 2-earner family in our younger days. However, we tried to live off one income, i.e., being able to make mortgage payments, etc in case one of us were to lose our job.
 
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