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Israel and Ukraine Aid Bill Clears Critical Hurdle in House

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The House took a critical step on Friday toward approving a long-stalled package of aid to Ukraine, Israel and other American allies, as Democrats supplied the crucial votes to push the legislation past Republican opposition so that it could be considered on the floor.
The 316-94 vote cleared the way for the House to bring up the aid package, teeing up separate votes on Saturday on each of its parts. But passage of those measures, each of which enjoys bipartisan support from different coalitions, was not in doubt, making Friday’s action the key indicator that the legislation will prevail.
The rule for considering the bill — historically a straight party-line vote — passed with more Democratic than Republican support, but it also won a majority of G.O.P. votes, making it clear that despite a pocket of deep resistance from the far right, there is broad bipartisan backing for the $95.3 billion package.
The vote was an enormous victory in the long effort to fund to Ukraine as it battles against Russian aggression, a major priority of President Biden that has met with bitter resistance from the right. It was a triumph against the forces of isolationism within the G.O.P. and a major moment of bipartisan consensus in a Congress that for the past year has been mostly defined by its dysfunction.
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But it came only after Speaker Mike Johnson, who put his own job on the line to push through the plan over his party’s objections, was forced to turn to Democrats in a significant breach of custom in the House, further imperiling his position even as he paved the way for the legislation to be voted on and approved.
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On the House floor, Democrats held back their votes until it was clear there was not enough Republican support for the measure to pass without their backing, and then their “yes” votes began pouring in. Ultimately, 165 Democrats voted for the measure, more than the 149 Republicans who supported it.
“Democrats, once again, will be the adults in the room, and I’m so glad Republicans finally realize the gravity of the situation and the urgency with which we must act,” said Representative Jim McGovern of Massachusetts, the top Democrat on the Rules Committee. “But you don’t get an award around here for doing your damn job.”
Mr. McGovern blamed a “MAGA minority that doesn’t want to compromise” for the long delay on sending aid to Ukraine. But he said that Democrats were providing the votes necessary to advance the legislation because “so much more is at stake here than petty partisanship.”

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Thomas Massie is seen on a television screen hung from the ceiling in the tunnels under the Capitol.

Representative Thomas Massie seen onscreen speaking during the rules debate on Friday morning.Credit...Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times
It was the second time during this Congress that Republicans have had to rely on Democratic votes in the House to even bring to the floor legislation to address a critical issue. They did so last year to allow for a vote to suspend the debt ceiling bill and avoid a catastrophic federal default. On that vote, 29 Republicans voted to oppose the rule. On Friday, 55 Republicans voted against their own speaker’s agenda.
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Republicans also have needed Democrats to pass several major pieces of legislation. Those include multiple spending measures to keep the government funded and the annual defense bill, after a revolt from the far right over the exclusion of restrictions they had sought to abortion access, transgender care, and racial diversity and inclusion policies at the Pentagon.

Many Republicans spoke on Friday in favor of the legislation to send aid to Ukraine and Israel. Representative Michael Burgess, Republican of Texas and the chairman of the rules panel, said he wanted the Biden administration to provide more information about how previous foreign aid funding was used and what its long term goals were for ending the conflict in Ukraine.
He said Republicans would continue to push for accountability, but conceded that, “today we are at an inflection point. Lack of aid now could cost us much more dearly later, and I don’t want that to become a reality.”
But the far-right flank of the Republican conference, which has wielded outsized power in a tiny majority, spoke out to oppose the bill.
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“I’m concerned that the speaker’s cut a deal with the Democrats to fund foreign wars rather than secure our border,” said Representative Thomas Massie, Republican of Kentucky, one of the most vocal opponents of the legislation who has threatened to vote to oust Mr. Johnson because of it.
In order to steer around opposition from members of his own party, Mr. Johnson broke down the package into three pieces, adding a fourth bill to sweeten the deal for conservative.
The rule was critical to Mr. Johnson’s strategy, because it allows separate votes on aid to Israel and aid to Ukraine, which are supported by different coalitions, but then folds them together without requiring lawmakers to cast an up-or-down vote on the entire bill.
That made it the only all-or-nothing vote that lawmakers will face on the foreign aid package, in many ways making it more important than any of the votes on the individual pieces of the plan. The measure also includes a package of sweeteners including a bill to require the sale of TikTok by its Chinese owner or ban the app in the United States.
“This was all precooked,” Representative Chip Roy, a hard-right Republican from Texas, fumed as he rose to oppose the rule. “It’s why President Biden and Chuck Schumer are praising it.”

Friday’s key vote came after Republicans on the House Rules Committee late Thursday night were also forced to rely on Democratic votes to move the legislation out of the committee and onto the House floor. The far-right lawmakers who tried to block the rule in committee — Mr. Massie, Mr. Roy and Representative Ralph Norman of South Carolina — opposed it because it would not allow a vote on severe border security provisions they have said should be prioritized over aiding Ukraine.
Under the rule approved on Friday, Republicans will be allowed two chances to zero out or limit the funding for Ukraine, but those efforts are expected to fail.
 
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They can derail the whole thing by booting the speaker. All business grinds to a halt if that happens.
 
I doubt the votes exist for removal...

Ehh they only need like 2 to vote against him if Dems vote for it again.

This is an instance I think where it might be an open question if Dems might vote to protect Johnson just to get the Ukrainian aid package through.
 
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Ehh they only need like 2 to vote against him if Dems vote for it again.

This is an instance I think where it might be an open question if Dems might vote to protect Johnson just to get the Ukrainian aid package through.

That's my point,.. I doubt 100% of Dems will vote to oust Johnson with this bill in play...
 
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That's my point,.. I doubt 100% of Dems will vote to oust Johnson with this bill in play...

That might only protect him til it passes though. Afterwards unless he's got another important bill on the docket the Dems will have no incentive to protect him.

If MTG and her allies are smart enough to understand this they will time their motion for just after the Dems have lost any incentive to protect Johnson from her.
 
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That might only protect him til it passes though. Afterwards unless he's got another important bill on the docket the Dems will have no incentive to protect him.

If MTG and her allies are smart enough to understand this they will time their motion for just after the Dems have lost any incentive to protect Johnson from her.
He’s got to make some kind of power-sharing deal that a large number of Reps will agree to going forward or there’s no reason for the Dems to back him.
 
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That might only protect him til it passes though. Afterwards unless he's got another important bill on the docket the Dems will have no incentive to protect him.

For Johnson that will always be the case,.. his job only exists day to day.
 
Ehh they only need like 2 to vote against him if Dems vote for it again.

This is an instance I think where it might be an open question if Dems might vote to protect Johnson just to get the Ukrainian aid package through.
D's don't even have to do that...just vote "present" or not vote.
 
D's don't even have to do that...just vote "present" or not vote.
True but again they have no incentive to do that once the bill passes.

He’s got to make some kind of power-sharing deal that a large number of Reps will agree to going forward or there’s no reason for the Dems to back him.

I don't think that would work out, a power sharing deal to protect his speakership would cost him more politically than being removed from the speaker's chair.

I don't think that would happen at all.

Also quite frankly on the Dems side would it even be worth it? Power sharing deal would only last for a few months. Meanwhile they would stand more to gain from just the spectacle of letting the R's fight among themselves and not be able to agree on a leader with an election around the corner.

The value of a power sharing deal shrinks with each day passing by.
 
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It’ll depend on the Democrats. If he demonstrates a willingness to compromise, they back him. McCarthy told them to pound sand so they told him to fvck off.

Yep, McCarthy was his own worst enemy. Democrats were clear after he got booted that they voted against him because they couldn’t trust him. He’d work out a deal with democrats and then an hour later changed the deal and he was in front of cameras trashing democrats.
 
This signals that the MAGA wing’s days are numbered imo. It’s like anything else where the losers get the loudest right before they’re wiped out, hence Marge making a strong case for forced institutionalization
 
The next thing we will see is Trump supporting this, saying that he’s always supported this, saying he always will support it, etc. because he won’t want to be seen as a loser
 
Yep, McCarthy was his own worst enemy. Democrats were clear after he got booted that they voted against him because they couldn’t trust him. He’d work out a deal with democrats and then an hour later changed the deal and he was in front of cameras trashing democrats.
He went on TV and shit talked them so they had no reason to help him.
 
Says you? The closet MAGA and clueless wonder? Bibi is the Trump of Israel. Couldn't have failed worse to prevent the October attack and is stringing this out to avoid prosecution and prison. You truly haven't a clue.
So you don’t support aid to Israel.

Figured.
 
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