Nathan Boston is transferring to Campbell from ISU, figured another one to Grandview. The tides are turning and when is Jackson let go for his poor performance and losing kids left and right. Too bad the rivalry is not the same anymore.
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yea I knew garrett for a year when he was wrestling at simpson, I believe he was the director of operations for the team when he was at isu. Kolat is doing a great job at Campbell, hope he can continue and bring them along
I'm not sure what goes on the the ISU room, but I have to figure Boston can no longer make 25 and with Parker and Storr coming off RS next year and probably the leaders for 33 and 41 there just won't be a spot for him. Glad he's getting a fresh start!
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With Simmons, Vega, Storr, Parker and Gomez, 125-141 is covered and I think a good chunk of money was tied up in Boston. I think it is best for both parties. I would rather have the scholarship dollars freed up
He definitely wasn't starting this year and I suspect he wasn't beating out Simmons who's most likely going up next season so makes sense to me.
I'd rather have the studs I recruited want to stick around.
I would like guys that want to stick around also, but want guys that are probably" get 50+% scholarship at least think they are going to start at some point in their career. Don't see that right now. But maybe a fresh start at 133 will do good
Wasn't Boston a top 25ish recruit? Do you really want guys like that leaving the program?
Either Mitchell didn't need him or maybe he is losing his touch. No one recruits the Iowa State program like he can.
No we don't. But do we really want somebody getting a 50%+ scholarship never starting in 5 years? I think Campbell (Kolat & Garrett Kiley), Iowa State staff and Nathan are all going to be better off.
Too bad someone didn't take Meeks 3 years ago.
A top 25 recruit that couldn't beat true freshman Rudy Yates....who's actually a 125 pounder. KJ needs to find the guys who come into the program and thrive on their own. Best to cut bait with guys who don't fit that mold.
So it's OK when 2 of these 5 transfer as well - Simmons, Vega, Storr, Parker and Gomez, since they all can't start?
Are they upper class men getting beat by young guys & getting a lot of scholarship dollars? Never said they have to start 3-4 years
Pretty brave of you to visit the "cesspool" to try and justify yet another transfer. The lack of development in that room is sad, by any measure.
So... who's next?
Still to be determined, but Hall coming back may have been a bad decision by those involved. He likely cost Boston a spot, and since he's a fringe AA guy as a senior, there was a chance Boston could have a higher ceiling. We all remember Boston wrestling a bit @ 141 last year in yet another chapter of Jackson not having guys at the correct weights.
And to your post... I'm too lazy to look it up, but the double digit statement since KJ arrived might be pretty close to the truth.
Most competitors step up to the plate, that's the case when competing for national titles and for a spot in the line up. It's not at all unheard of that an AA loses his spot in the line up to someone who isn't and there are examples of it. Boston decided he was going to battle for the 133 spot because that's his optimal weight. Looking at his results he's clearly not the best guy regardless of Hall being there or not and I'd bet if Hall didn't get the year back that Simmons would be the starter at 133 right now.
The only star studded guys I can think who have transferred during the KJ era that actually wrestled for him are Andrew Long who didn't want to follow the guidelines to get back on the team in the first place. Joey Cozart who transferred to Lindsey Wilson. And Ryak Finch who I had heard was not even doing well academically his last year at ISU (by all means someone correct me on that if I'm wrong)
In all fairness, isn't any wrestler at Iowa State better off leaving for any other program?
I used to think that all Cael could do was recruit, but didn't develop talent like the Brands. ISU has proven that getting top recruits is not enough. Unfortunately, Iowa proves that developing lesser recruits is not enough. To Cael's credit, I do think he's a good mix of the two.
Be careful about criticizing ISU on this forum.
We have one ISU fan that posts here(Buf) that goes back to his forum and calls most of us "dicks".
So, to summarize... This forum is a cesspool with dicks!
To be fair, this board makes fun of ISU guys going to Grand View while Iowa guys have been transferring to Wartburg for at least 20 years. I can remember Tom Smith and Ben Kristonis in the 90's and more recently Lance Evans, Eric DeVos, and Joey Trizzino. Plenty of guys in between.
Didn't expect to see you posting today!
Isn't the third Thursday of the month when the govt subsidy checks arrive in the mail?
None of the recent guys you just mentioned, including Thomsen who was mentioned just after your post, were the same level of recruit when they came to Iowa that Boston, Finch, Cozart were going to ISU. Apples and Oranges.
You might have been able to say DeVos when he was coming out of HS was on their tier, but no one was expecting DeVos to light college wrestling on fire when he joined the program. All the recent transfers out of Iowa were project guys who needed a good breakthrough plus some depth luck to maybe start a year, two if A LOT went right for them in their careers. All the isu guys like Boston, Finch, Cozart came into isu with expectations of multi year starter guaranteed.
I mean c'mon. You guys put that product on the mat for years and don't expect to catch a little grief from a rival?
The main difference is they are highly ranked guys coming in.
ISU's problems start at the top, but the glaring weakness has been the lack of prolonged success in the lower weights. Asst coaches have been a rotating door. Yero, Nickerson, and Escobedo all in the space of eight years.
The only coaches to stick are the alums. Common denominator=piss poor head coach.
The fan base is either ignorant or sheepish. They keep repeating what they hear at booster functions, apparently. Help is on the way, we're looking to peak in March, great recruits coming(only to transfer in 2-3 yrs) ,
When the spat between Bono and KJ became public, we heard how divisive Bono was. Maybe he saw the direction the program was going wouldn't work.
Jon Meeks is the personification of what is wrong with ISU wrestling. Highly regarded and horrible results.
The only coaches to stick are the alums. Common denominator=piss poor head coach.
The fan base is either ignorant or sheepish. They keep repeating what they hear at booster functions, apparently. Help is on the way, we're looking to peak in March, great recruits coming(only to transfer in 2-3 yrs) ,
When the spat between Bono and KJ became public, we heard how divisive Bono was. Maybe he saw the direction the program was going wouldn't work.
Jon Meeks is the personification of what is wrong with ISU wrestling. Highly regarded and horrible results.
I don't hate ISU or get my jollys off running them down, but this is an absolute bullseye. What's worse is the kids on team seem to be brainwashed too... What, exactly, are they buying into??? Sad.
I give enough to the government, so if they are going to give me a little back, I'll take it
I actually haven't heard much ignorance or sunshine pumping from my friends who are ISU fans, but a lot of sheepishness. They don't have much faith that Pollard cares about wrestling, and neither do I. Its kind of funny, but also kind of sad. I'd much rather have them be a national power than PSU, tOSU or Cornell.
Yeah, I'm sure if ISU had gone on a run like PSU has the last 5 of 6 years, this board would be just peachy. Careful what you wish for
Based on what little I've seen there are certainly more KJ detractors on CF that ever before and attendance continues to dwindle. But the number of ardent defenders is baffling.
Nails it. The Iowa guys go to Wartburg to get on the mat. Didn't want to be room guys anymore. Not sure how he didn't follow.
How many years did the following top 50 recruits start at Iowa: Nate Skonieczny, Broc Berge, Jake Marlin, Jake Ballweg, and Nate Moore?
My point is that both Iowa and Iowa State has had recruits that have not worked out. Iowa State has a smaller margin of error because they have fewer blue chip kids. They also have needed to bring in more high risk/high reward type kids if they hoped to compete. Just as Penn State has been out recruiting Iowa the past 6 years, Iowa has been out recruiting ISU for decades. Iowa State has been performing below expectations lately, but Iowa also has been trending in the wrong direction.
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