ISU's coach should have stayed
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The clock management along with the penalties should be of major concern to Clone fans. That's OK With me if the trend continues.
Back in the day Progidy had Iowa message boards, pretty solid core group, Progidy got greedy so most of us moved to AOL, Then it just transitioned into literally 1,000's of ISP's. Anyway, in one form or another I have been involved on Hawkeye message boards for close to 25 years. While not the vast number as now, they were quite popular even way back then.
Seriously they never should have fired McCarney. At least he was taking them to bowl games .
My father-in-law is a Cyclone fan (His daughter now has lots of Hawkeye gear) and he has continually said that Iowa State never should've fired Dan and his scowl.
I remember the early Ferentz years well. Everyone mad because we missed out on Bobby Stoops. But we cheered because we had also hired Steve Alford as Men's BB coach. Oh the HYPE, How did that work out?
What I liked about Ferentz's teams was although they were not so good to start, they did get continually better each game and each year. That is coaching.
In the car on the way home after one of our bad loses, I made the comment to my wife that the football team would see a Big Ten Title before the hyped up basketball program and their new leader. It came true a couple of years later.
Hard work beats out hype every time.
What I liked about Ferentz's teams was although they were not so good to start, they did get continually better each game and each year. That is coaching.
In the car on the way home after one of our bad loses, I made the comment to my wife that the football team would see a Big Ten Title before the hyped up basketball program and their new leader. It came true a couple of years later.
Hard work beats out hype every time.
I've said this for 10+ years, Iowa State will never be a competitive football program as long as they are in the Big 12. They are one of the outliers for location in the conference...Why would a recruit come to Ames Iowa instead of 30 minutes away to one of the Texas/Oklahoma schools?
There was a lot of anger and dissension regarding the hiring of Ferentz. People, a lot of people, were angry that Bowlesby would end up hiring Terry Allen and they were mad about Bowlesby not hiring Stoops on the spot. They thought that Bowleby had planned on hiring Allen all along. When Ferentz was hired those fans were upset because of his lack of success as a head coach at Maine of all places. So, yes, there was a lot of disappointment in the fan base regardless of what any one says. No one wants to admit that they were wrong. Even though the 1-10 first season and the bad start of the second season had all those same fans showing their anger on these boards, it was obvious that the team was consistently improving even though they weren't winning yet. And, we became very good but never quite elite and that had some fans yelling for his head for lack of consistency. We have some fans who are unhappy about everything and they do their best to make every one else unhappy like they are. And, they make noise. And, HerkysDad, there were plenty of unhappy customers over the hiring of Alford. They were unhappy because Davis had been basically sacked and they were determined to be angry about almost anyone, except strangely perhaps Rick Majerus, who became the next Iowa coach. God forbid, it was a golden boy with great hair out of Indiana. Those fans couldn't wait until they could get rid of Alford and they were the same fans who strongly cheered for Lick and it was those fans who, in my opinion, brought on the failure of Iowa basketball like it had never seen. It was those fans who continued to go at Alford and still do to this day. Like all fan bases, Iowa has their share of utterly complete azz wholes. To those who didn't want Ferentz and to those who wanted him fired after any down season, get ready because there will be seasons in the next ten years that Iowa will struggle. That happens to all football teams with the exception of Ohio State and Alabama. But, I wouldn't trade Ferentz for any other coach because success at Iowa IS harder to come by consistently than at the schools like Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Alabama and the other schools that automatically attract recruits as if by magnetization. It takes a better coach to develop players than to simply coach great players and we have the right coach and we always had the right coach.
Good points - I was one of the fans that wanted Stoops. We will never know how that would have worked but you can't deny he is one of the premiere coaches in the nation. Could he have done that at Iowa, don't know.
Iowa State is #2 in the nation.......on CBS's bottom 25. http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...-state-of-illinois-is-in-a-bad-way-right-now/
That has to make Campbell feel hopeful.
That has to make Campbell feel hopeful.
Hey, we all wanted Stoops. He was the ultimate choice for anyone who wanted an Iowa guy and his contributions to some great Florida teams was not unnoticed. He did himself a whole lot better at Oklahoma than he would have at Iowa. Oklahoma is one of those schools that attract the higher ranked athletes every year and the talent level is much higher coming in at Oklahoma than it is at Iowa. I have no way of knowing whether he would have been as successful at Iowa as he was at Oklahoma, but I highly doubt that he would have been , but the real question is whether he would have been as successful at Iowa as Kirk has been. I don't know the answer to that one, but I do believe that Stoops could have been the most popular guy in Iowa and could have ended his coaching career as the Governor.
IiRC the Daily Iowan (UI's student paper) ran a weekly graphic called Stoops Watch showing his early success at Oklahoma. I wanted Stoops too, but that was just plain wrong.
I also realized after our first or second game that the line struggles would result in losing most of our games. I figured Ferentz should get a few years to do something with better players.
I don't know what will happen at ISU, but let's face it they lack a quality roster and Campbell can't do much just yet. If I were an ISU fan I'd be pretty worried given that Advocare video thing came out. Not sure this is a real intelligent guy we're dealing with here.
I also realized after our first or second game that the line struggles would result in losing most of our games. I figured Ferentz should get a few years to do something with better players.
I don't know what will happen at ISU, but let's face it they lack a quality roster and Campbell can't do much just yet. If I were an ISU fan I'd be pretty worried given that Advocare video thing came out. Not sure this is a real intelligent guy we're dealing with here.
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