No QB is as bad as Deacon Hill. I had hopes for Cade to be average when he came to Iowa. Not close to what I hoped for.
It isn't a quarterback "controversy"
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I just have no confidence that Cade will ever make a sick ass TD pass. His WRs have to have a 5 yard cushion for him to have any confidence.
The way we were trolling the college football universe was hilarious and very much satisfying. People were just losing their minds over how we were playing.
It was fun.
The throw he made last year on the first play of the first game, was the last one I remember.
I like pissed off Torbs. If he really is the best QB they have it is malpractice on a whole new malpractices level.
But..it's only been 4 years to figure it out. Be patient. He is "improving". He is only a 6th year P5 QB
But..it's only been 4 years to figure it out. Be patient. He is "improving". He is only a 6th year P5 QB
Doesn't make any difference what Lester wants, Kirk makes all the calls on offense. The OC is merely a token position because everybody else has one. A 3 year old kid could be OC at Iowa.
Utah Tech is possibly the worst FCS team in the country, & after 3 games they were like "have a seat Deac. We're gonna try someone else."
Kirk rode Deacon all year. Cade is never getting benched.
it could be that Sullivan is just as bad. It's not like he was a hot free agent. Lester is cooking with the groceries that KF and his staff bought.
Sadly, that would track.
We all said there’s no way Padilla could be worse than Petras. He was.
We all said there’s no way Lainez could be worse than Hill. He was.
Our QB recruiting/evaluations have been just god awful lately.
I have heard Lainez isn't a P5 QB from people who would know. the only reason he is on the roster is inabilty to replace him this year and they needed bodies. He will not be here next year if possible.
I've also read the freshman they brought in this year, Resar, is not a D1 QB. Good athlete but he has to change positions if he wants to stay at Iowa.
it's possible that any qb with intel from stallions was going to do pretty well at mich. entirely possible this is as good as he ever was.
I’m NOT an expert by any stretch…but I do have an idea of how it should look when someone throws a football.
Resar needs a complete overhaul of his throwing motion.
A QB controversy? We haven't seen that since CJB. I think that was the straw that broke the camels back for KF and he said "never again". We can see the incompetence in the QB position, but apparently KZF can't. It's really a shame.It's borderline malpractice.
My TwT column this week:
It isn't a quarterback "controversy"
The biggest thing holding Iowa back is being too stubborn to admit the obviousopen.substack.com
Kirk Ferentz is predictable and like clockwork when it comes to his "golden goose" at the QB position, in the now & recently past (at least) half a decade or so ....
"He looks really good in practice"
"He gives us the best chance to win"
"He's improving"
.... then along comes game day, and said chosen QB looks like a five-alarm dumpster fire with rotten shitty smelling garbage doused in flames. Week after week, after week, after week, etc.
"He looks really good in practice"
"He gives us the best chance to win"
"He's improving"
.... then along comes game day, and said chosen QB looks like a five-alarm dumpster fire with rotten shitty smelling garbage doused in flames. Week after week, after week, after week, etc.
BF would have been 100x better in a different program. He knows football. Iowa’s offensive issues have always stemmed from the top and our unwillingness to consistently tweak our culture or philosophy in order to adapt to changing trends. We’re never proactive, always reacting and thus behind the curve.
My opinion is that Cade might be the better quarterback if only a facilitator of great talent around him (like Brock purdy) but given the ball catchers on the roster, Sullivan gives the team a better chance to win. Against good teams, we need the qb mobility to get WRs/TEs open or punish them with scrambles.It's borderline malpractice.
My TwT column this week:
It isn't a quarterback "controversy"
The biggest thing holding Iowa back is being too stubborn to admit the obvious
Yep. His name is Brian Ferentz.
And if not for the intervention of a first-year AD, he would still be here.
Two things:
1. Kirk cannot evaluate quarterback talent.
2. No quarterback worth a shit is going to sign up to play in this shit offense in which his main responsibilities are handing off and throwing 3-yard outs.
Agree with the theme of the article with the exception of stating McNamara having a bad first half. Other than the horrible miss on a wide open Wetjen I thought he was pretty good considering the duress he was under because the o-line sucked.It's borderline malpractice.
My TwT column this week:
It isn't a quarterback "controversy"
The biggest thing holding Iowa back is being too stubborn to admit the obvious
Third qtr he sucked and once we were down 21-0 Sullivan should have been brought in.
Brian Ferentz was possibly the worst major program OC in modern history. His predecessor and successor have illustrated his extreme futility, even when accounting for old man Kirk’s philosophical deficiencies. I like Brian, and I wish he were still in the program, but he should not have been the OC and would never have been given such an opportunity if not by his father. Maybe down the line, but not with his resume. He was comically unqualified and it showed.
No one is going to win games with Deacon Hill and Spencer Petras at QB along with FCS caliber WRs. We have walk on WRs that belong in D2 or D3 football. That’s a KF problem. I disagree and don’t think you know what you’re talking about, like most fans. Simple as that.
Anyone with a clue knew he wasn’t a serious QB prospect. Nobody is picking Iowa, especially from that part of the country, to play QB at Iowa if he has any other suitable offers
Well, you clearly demonstrate that you don’t have a god damn clue what you’re talking about if you think Brian Ferentz showed that he could be an OC, and that Iowas problems are all on old Kirk.
Brian was in the role for a long time, he and his staff are the ones that architected this roster. And with virtually the same guys, an OC who isn’t in over his head has the run game doing things and has one of the nations leading rushers.
People forget that Iowas offense was horrible before McNamara went down and just got a bit worse with Hill. McNamara put up less than 500 yards in his first four games. Iowa averaged 21ppg in the opening 4 games with a humiliating shutout at Penn State and racking up points against western Michigan and Utah State.
Let us also remember that he ran off Tyrone Tracy and Charlie Jones, after getting virtually nothing out of them. Both in the NFL right now.
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I tend to agree he is best-suited for another position, but he had scholarship offers from North Carolina, Indiana, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest and Tulane.
based on those offers he's got have solid qb potential. just have to be willing to use him as a dual threat instead
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