Jack McCaffery: Officially Not Considering Iowa
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I agree, 1-2 years max as I see it. Tucker has 2 years college eligibility left. Father and son would be a very attractive package deal next year.
I’ve read (probably on some basketball forum so take it FWIW) that the DeVries family would like their second / youngest child to graduate from her current HS. I have no idea when that is. That may drive timing if true.
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As a Drake fan as well I think some of you are underestimating the character of DeVries. 17-18 years as an assistant at Creighton. Guy is incredibly loyal as well as a great coach. A .718 winning percentage at Drake is unbelievably ridiculous. He’s building something there. There’s something to be said for being the top dog in your conference every year. Now some of you might be right and he could leave when Tucker is gone. He’s done an unbelievable job at Drake. Iowa would struggle to find a better coach in my opinion.
We just need a guy who can recruit at the B1G level.
And unless more money flows into SWARM, any head coach at Iowa will struggle landing the highly ranked kids who want to be paid. We know we have gotten outbid for high school kids (example: JP Estrella) and we know we have gotten outbid numerous times in the transfer portal.
Meanwhile, SWARM Inc has been very good to Iowa football. In the offseason SWARM Inc acquired a starting QB, a starting TE, a starting WR, a starting LB and more.
I’d be pretty surprised if DeVries had any interest in coaching at Iowa. He has spent his entire career coaching at basketball schools. Small chance he wants to coach at a football school with terrible basketball support.
I'm going to be biased for personal reasons, but Chris Jans from Mississippi St. needs to be in the discussion.
Plus, I've always been a big believer in hiring local. Philly Fran in Iowa was never a good match in the first place. CJans is Iowa thru and thru.
Plus, I've always been a big believer in hiring local. Philly Fran in Iowa was never a good match in the first place. CJans is Iowa thru and thru.
Drake is definitely not the top dog in the MVC every year. If they are, then Illinois State, Loyola, UNI, and Bradley are top dogs in the conference too. They haven’t won an outright regular season title since that all time team in 2008 right?!? Devries is doing great there though.
So you clearly don’t watch MVC basketball which is fine but you’re way off base here. Illinois State is terrible and has been for awhile. Loyola is not in the conference anymore. Drake has been to the MVC championship game the last 2 years winning one and losing one. DeVries has had some big injuries otherwise he’d probably have a or 1-2 ncaa appearances. Drake has arguably besides Evansville been the worst team in the Valley since the early 70’s. What he’s accomplished on a consistent basis there is incredible.
I love how claiming lack of NIL funds towards a sport is now the generic excuse for future recruiting.
Nobody's making excuses. But here are the current facts:
* The SWARM CEO admitted they don't have the money to support men's basketball.
* We know we have gotten outbid for highly ranked high school kids (example: JP Estrella)
* We know we have gotten outbid numerous times in the transfer portal.
Unless things change (ie, more money flows into SWARM), these issues will persist into the future, no matter who the coach is.
I don't completely agree with this.
They are CHOOSING to focus money on football. That trip McNamara and all of the receivers took to CA would have cost a lot of money. they are spending a lot of money there. Iowa has great corporate partnerships which you outlined on the football board.
While we don't know the exact numbers, I would be willing to bet Iowa is in pretty good shape NIL wise. How they choose to spend it might be up for debate but there are a lot of schools including Iowa State that would love to have the NIL resources Iowa does.
Stop paying college kids or don't call them collegiate players. Total farce.
Iowa State has a billionaire sugar daddy funding their basketball program and they have had tremendous recruiting success as a result.
You say Iowa has great NIL resources and is in good shape. If that were true,
(1) why is SWARM having to sell beer?
(2) Why does the SWARM CEO say he needs over 10,000 paying members?
(3) why does the SWARM CEO say he's trying to come up with other ways of raising money like having an exhibition game with Caitlin (her camp wanted too big of a cut)?
(4) why does the SWARM CEO come out & say they are currently unable to support the men's basketball program like they need to?
(5) why does the SWARM CEO have to not only donate a considerable amount of his time but cut a personal check for $100,000? And I am sure he's probably contributed above and beyond what's he's admitted to.
Iowa's NIL is in much better shape than ISU's, and the myth that Albaugh is funding ISU's basketball recruiting is exactly that. Again, Summit Ag and others are throwing money at Iowa's NIL that pale in comparison to what ISU is getting. Blum has said repeatedly he'd love to have the corporate support Iowa has.
1. ISU also is going to be announcing a beer partnership likely this week.
2. I don't know. ISU certainly doesn't have that.
3. ISU also does a ton of camps to try and get funding for players.
4. Because it's his job to raise as much money as possible.
5. Everybody on ISU's board is volunteer except for Blum.
Since you seem to know a lot about Albaugh, how much is he donating? How much is ISU paying for players?
It will be interesting a few years from now when they do a study of athletes who actually attended class while in college.
It's a myth that Albaugh is funding ISU basketball recruiting, huh? You have zero credibility on here by saying that. A picture of TJ and his billionaire sugar daddy says a billion words.
It makes us all wonder what Iowa State basketball prospects are getting offered. What follows are just the high school kids Iowa State is bringing in (or will bring in). And we know these kids are not coming in just because of TJ and that great tasting water in Lames.
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It's a myth that Albaugh is funding ISU basketball recruiting, huh? You have zero credibility on here by saying that. A picture of TJ and his billionaire sugar daddy says a billion words.
It makes us all wonder what Iowa State basketball prospects are getting offered. What follows are just the high school kids Iowa State is bringing in (or will bring in). And we know these kids are not coming in just because of TJ and that great tasting water in Lames.
Their 2023 Class:
Their 2024 Class:
So how much does Albaugh donate?
I know for a fact, ISU did not pursue a transfer big because the cost is too high. It's been reported multiple places. Why is he not funding that?
He's a billionaire. You tell us.
Since when did you care about facts? After all, you said above that it was a myth that Albaugh was funding ISU's basketball recruiting. Meanwhile, the rest of us know what's going on....
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I watch a fair bit of the MVC. Drake has been very good the past three seasons. But when you’ve had a different team win the regular season conference seemingly every year, it’s hard to call yourself a top dog. Loyola would actually be the top dog in the MVC. Winning or tying the conference regular season in three of the five years before they left. Arch Madness can be a crap shoot and hard to judge a team on.
Won’t argue about Loyola. Again, DeVries is 63-29 in conference since he got there so he’s not just doing well at March Madness. And when he got to Drake he took over a team with 3 total players on the roster. And if it weren’t for key injuries he’s probably in the tournament 4 out of 5 years. Valley is a 1-2 bid league not a 8-10 bid league like the Big Ten. Zero margin for error.
Terrible basketball support, huh? Iowa ranked 24th in the nation with 12,371 average attendance, they were 27th the year before. Considering how little ncaa tourney success they've had this century that is pretty amazing.. There are well over 300 d1 programs who would love that kind of support, this bullshit myth that Iowa doesn't support it's bball team needs to end
FYI football ranked 19th in their'18-'22 average
The capacity for the Knapp Center is just over 7000 btw, I'm guessing he'd be ok with 12k a night
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Conveniently forgetting? Think I’m trying to pull a fast one on you or something. That was a intellectually lazy statement at best. I remember many fans loving that Lute chased down Jim after the screw job we got in that game. And btw I wouldn’t consider people recognizing you at dinner as running someone out of town.
Is it possible that TJ is just a good recruiter, which he's always been, without having a ton of NIL?
You're not posting facts. You're posting rumors with no basis.
TJ is friends with Albaugh's son in law. Albaugh does not donate much to athletics and never has. Iowa's NIL is much healthier than ISU's.
Using raw attendance numbers is moronic given the wide discrepancy in arena capacity in CBB. Carver has one of the larger capacities in CBB therefore the attendance numbers are naturally going to be higher.
Iowa's basketball budget is around 60th nationally.
Source: https://www.three-man-weave.com/3mw/college-basketball-budgets-2020
Iowa's basketball revenue is towards the bottom of the conference.
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Scott also said on a recent podcast that Iowa's basketball revenue was poor.
Stadium polled Big Ten coaches and had them rank individual categories for each school. Iowa was 11th in atmosphere, 13th in budget and resources, and 12th in facilities which are all categories that fall under "fan support". The poll was from 5 years ago, but Iowa's rankings would be worse now.
Source: https://watchstadium.com/big-ten-basketball-coaches-rank-the-best-jobs-in-the-conference-10-11-2018/
Fan support for Iowa basketball is objectively bad and the biggest reason for lack of success. The illusion that Iowa fans actually support the basketball program is what needs to end.
Why would it be worse? That may be your opinion, but it certainly isn't based on any facts.
Yea. There certainly isn’t the drama at the Big Ten bball tourney that you get at Arch Madness. Makes college basketball a lot of fun.
Pretty pathetic you had to cite a source from 5 years ago when iowa was coing off a 14-19 season and 2 year hiatus from tourney...the low point of the FM era. I'm not saying it's fantastic but if you think averaging over 12k per game is terrible support it's not worth wasting any more time on
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So on this podcast, they were talking about how the players were all going to a furniture store to buy themselves beds with their NIL, and then they were talking about pooling all of the rest of their money to get stuff for the apartment.
The idea at ISU players are rolling in NIL is absolutely absurd.
Yea, each of whom paid their dues for decades (other than Howard). Gatens is still relatively new to the profession.
ISU is doing something right, and I don't think it is just the coach.It's a myth that Albaugh is funding ISU basketball recruiting, huh? You have zero credibility on here by saying that. A picture of TJ and his billionaire sugar daddy says a billion words.
It makes us all wonder what Iowa State basketball prospects are getting offered. What follows are just the high school kids Iowa State is bringing in (or will bring in). And we know these kids are not coming in just because of TJ and that great tasting water in Lames.
Their 2023 Class:
Their 2024 Class:
Wow. I guess there really are NO moderators on the site now. Maybe tone it down just a bit though huh. I guess if your trying to show that he can't possibly crawl beneath your level, then your succeeding. Winner, winner....
There's certainly a discussion to be made there. I mean if this continues unchecked, I see no reason these guys should be on scholarships, as academics has almost nothing to do with any of this.....
Using data from 5 years ago is not really helping prove anything. If womens basketball is any indicator, Iowa bball fans will support a product that is high quality and entertaining like few others. The 2020/21 team would have had Carver rocking but we all know what happened then. While I agree Iowa is a football school first, basketball gets plenty of support when the team is good. Quality opponents don't hurt the equation either.
