Jackson, MS, does not have running water due to flooding.
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California has it all figured out.
Water, fires, homeless. It’s all under control.
Why do you think municipal water supplies are issues for the state legislature?
Because the city leadership is Team Blue. That's why.
Lumumba was elected mayor in June 2017 with 93% of the vote. The Nation commented that "Lumumba lit up the left press with his promise—delivered later that month in a speech at the People’s Summit in Chicago—to make Jackson 'the most radical city on the planet.'”
The Feds told the city leaders to get their act together:
JACKSON, Miss.—Only days before the effective collapse of Jackson’s water system, the Environmental Protection Agency highlighted a critical failure on the part of the capital city’s leaders in pursuing new water operations staff and in implementing an alternative water plan. These compounding errors have emerged as the foundation of the new stage of the Jackson water crisis, with City of Jackson facilities unable to generate enough clean water to keep the system close to full pressure.
In spite of critical staffing shortages threatening the basic operation of the O.B. Curtis Water Treatment Plant, EPA leadership warned that the City of Jackson has put no visible effort into hiring new employees.
Wow.
California is trying, but still has big problems.
Therefore we should vote for the party that opposes trying.
Right wing logic in a nutshell.
The right doesn't oppose trying. The right opposes the government having to have its hands on everything in trying to combat the problem.
It's a sad statement that the initial reaction on here is to run to your side of the political aisle. ffs
Third post in this thread is blaming the state legislature for the status of the municipal water supply.
Municipality is run by Democrats.
Legislature is run by Republicans.
Who do you think is responsible for the municipal water supply?
Odd that there seems to be a consensus this is a local issue, yet Jackson is incredibly liberal (to the tune of 75 blue/ 25 red), but red is getting blamed. Too many of you are talking out of both sides of you mouth. Maybe its not a political issue after all???
State guidelines...state regulation...state oversight...just like here in Iowa. Localities and states share in funding. In Iowa, we have “regional water boards” who are responsible for setting rates, budgets, etc....but the rules and refs are all state mandated.
Just haven’t gathered enough of others peoples money yet.
if that’s the answer and California isn’t there yet my hunch is that isn’t the answer.
BTW...these “boards” are not politically affiliated here....and usually listed at the very end of the ballot...next to hospital board candidates and dog catchers.
In other words, “don’t come here spouting facts that go against my false narratives. I have a mission to accomplish even if they are tinfoil hat/Alex Jones-esq.”
Who is responsible for following those guidelines?
You keep trying to deflect responsibility away from the people who are responsible.
EPA didn't mention the legislature.
They don't share your confusion on who is responsible here:
The EPA identified compliance deficiencies, including operational and maintenance concerns. The March 2020 Emergency Order required the City to address system deficiencies of immediate concern.
Yes; it does.
It's why "the right" never, ever came up with a healthcare bill that "was better than" ACA/ObamaCare and also never, ever came up with any "infrastructure bill".
And, despite "the right" being all in favor of carbon emissions "cap and trade" as a viable solution in the 1990s, has all but abandoned any semblance of any solution there, either.
Yet "the State" is not. And won't increment taxes to pay for needed infrastructure.
The state...that is who. The state can “shut it down” to....and again, the ultimate responsibility is the local governing water board...but their hands are tied by state and national politics in cases like this. You are looking at BILLIONS of $$ Here to correct the situation...and that means you need you local legislators (state and federal) working on getting you money. And I understand Mississippi is poorer than poor, but it’s politicians do have an obligation to their people.
Again, the city of Jackson and the state of Mississippi immediately look to me to bail their asses out of their mess...while they refuse to adequately fund and pay for their utilities.
But you have no problem bailing out college kids who willingly signed loan documents and agreed to repay.
Why did the EPA cite the city instead of the state, if you are correct about who is responsible?
I said hard to feel sorry for,
not impossible but you are right. I just wish people in these deep red states that tend to scream about the evils of socialism while being so dependent on federal hand outs even without disasters like this would wake up and acknowledge the hypocrisy and support investments in infrastructure
Priorities!
In April 2018, when the Jackson Zoo announced plans to consider moving from its current West Jackson location, Lumumba joined Working Together Jackson, the Zoo Area Progressive Partnership, Rosemont Missionary Baptist Church and other community groups, in an effort to prevent the zoo from moving. He described the proposed plan as disingenuous and disrespectful.[13] A city investigation discovered that the Jackson Zoological Society had mismanaged funds and failed to pay $6 million in water bills.[14]
The mayor took direct control of the zoo and approved $200,000 to renovate it.[15] The zoo reopened in August 2020 under city control.[16]
I have somewhat of a problem with this....but I have more of a problem with politicians (both parties) who ignored problems and abuses and allowed these predator “colleges” ( primarily for profits) to receive federal money.
Again, damn near 20 years ago, 2 LIBERALS in Congress (Tom Harkin and Maxine Waters) we’re lone voicesdemanding these “for profits” be highly regulated because of how they treated their students. Unfortunately, too many Congreemen/women and Senators were receiving too much money from these folks to do the right thing.
Was hoping this was a thread on how we could help fellow Americans dealing with a disaster, but instead we're 2 pages and counting of lefties celebrating other's misfortune bc they happen to live in a red state. Sad.
Jackson, MS voted 93% for their democratic mayor.
So all efforts will be focused on trying to blame the political tilt of the state for the actions (not) taken by the Democrats responsible for Jackson's water supply.
What part of "state" is too difficult for you to understand?
States routinely support localities AND obtain federal grants for projects.
The part where people are (relatively) agreeing this is a LOCAL issue. (i.e. not 'state').
Cities routinely fund raise for city projects/improvements.
(and this thread has several people bitching about localities using federal funds for local issues, so again, you continue to talk out of both sides of your mouth. Practice not texting and driving before you delve into politics perhaps).
Tate Reeves looks a little out of place giving press conference updates on the crisis. He seems more at home talking about saving babies, woke Libs in Hollywood, cancel culture, and hunting down queer kids. Actual government stuff he isn't so good at.
It must have been sarcasm. Or, perhaps he's pissed the federal govt is stepping in to help?
Where do cities get their money, Seminole? They tax and they bond...and I would assume, like most states, “the state” regulates these processes to some extent. Jackson is the largest city in Mississippi, correct? Isn’t it the state Capitol, too? Strange the the legislature isn’t somewhat of a force in the city. Government has to be the driving force of Jackson, doesn’t it?
Sounds to me like Mississippi has some serious tax/ revenues issues facing it. They can’t even support their infrastructure currently.
It is a state AND local issue. State sets standards, states "oversee' and states regulate.....the local here is "the water board" or whoever governs the day to day operations and the local city council.....and that is people N OT politics, if Jackson is like 90+% of America......If there indeed has been embezzelment/theft/misuse of public funds, folks need to go to jail! Its pretty damn simple. Again...that is NOT politics...it is "personal"......Sounds like Mississippi and Jackson need to raise more revenue to improve their water infrastructure......Just saw a piece on the local news about it....and honestly, the people of Jackson and Mississippi should be embarassed regarding the state of the water in their capital city! It has been DECADES of neglect that has gotten them to this condition.....the flood just was the tipping point for a disaster. However......it looks like a fertile bed for more "Mississippi" and "the South" jokes has been born!
Utilities also bill their customers.
Are you asserting without evidence that the state legislature thwarted the Democrats governing Jackson, and responsible for running the public utility, from addressing any of the issues the EPA raised with the city?
It’s not Washington DC, it’s a state capital.
Strange is you trying to hold someone besides the city responsible for running the utility with responsibility for running the utility.
Why are the elected Democratic officials in Jackson derelict in their duty to provide basic services?
For several years, the EPA has documented many problems with the Jackson water system and has entered into several binding legal agreements with the city to improve the system’s safety and reliability. Since then, federal assessment teams have checked in on the system to determine whether the city is complying with the federal agreements.
The report said the city was unable to provide a complete list of customers when inspectors visited, and explained that some customers receive no bills, while others receive large bills. The city could not calculate its collection rate, and said this issue isn’t expected to be resolved until late 2024.
The report said malfunctioning water meters have contributed to a 32-percent decrease in revenue. In March, the report said, the city reported 14,000 bills were “stranded,” or not sent to or received by customers. The city reported that about 50% of the water put out is “non-revenue,” and that it is unclear how much is due to meter issues or water loss.
The elected Democrats in Jackson Mississippi demonstrably have no clue how to manage their responsibility.
Quick! Give more money!
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Gov. rejected $100,000,000 infrastructure money from Biden saying it was a "socialist" handout. Now he's asking for money from the Honorable Joseph Biden Jr, and when Biden authorized the emergency money/FEMA, he thanked the White House.
Politics over People in Mississippi
Politics over People in Mississippi
Another response direct from the
When Republicans at national and state levels make a huge mess - cutting taxes on the rich, stripping away protections, crippling responsible agencies, reducing state and federal funding, etc., etc. - find the local Dem to blame.
As long as there are Democrats, Republicans have scapegoats!
You ducked the question, which incidentally destroys the narrative you're trying to create.
Who do you think is responsible for the municipal water supply?
I really don't care. It's awful. Heads should roll.
My position on the GOP creating conditions that are plunging the US toward 3rd world status is accurate, regardless of where the blame may fall in this particular breakdown of civilization.
If it was a Dem who pulled his thumb out of the dike this time around, I won't defend him.
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