I have to imagine basketball commitments are going to slow down to a snail's pace until some dominoes fall and the dust settles. With so many programs in a precarious position, this has got to help Iowa.
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it should with future recruits starting in 2019. my feeling these kids should not be allowed to transfer after sanction come down and those that received money be declared Pro's and ineligible to play,
of course you do realize that Fran will be accused of cheating if he gets top rated players to commit.
November 4th? No game scheduled during his projected visit? Curious.
Iowa's early season schedule:
NOTE: same for isu, no game during visit.
Iowa's early season schedule:
OCT 27 (FRI) 7 P.M.
VS WILLIAM JEWELL COLLEGE
NOV 2 (THU) 7 P.M.
VS BELMONT ABBEY COLLEGE
- NOV 10 (FRI) 8 P.M.
VS CHICAGO STATE
NOTE: same for isu, no game during visit.
November 4th? No game scheduled during his projected visit? Curious.
No BASKETBALL game, but there's a FOOTBALL game that day that's very important!
Iowa's early season schedule:
OCT 27 (FRI) 7 P.M.
VS WILLIAM JEWELL COLLEGE
NOV 2 (THU) 7 P.M.
VS BELMONT ABBEY COLLEGE- NOV 10 (FRI) 8 P.M.
VS CHICAGO STATE
NOTE: same for isu, no game during visit.
Maybe this has been discussed before, but when a recruit visits and attends a FB game, who pays for the tickets. Does the BB team have a block of tickets they keep for recruits and the player pays the standard rate for the ticket?
If so, some poor kids could not afford the ticket. How does it work.
If so, some poor kids could not afford the ticket. How does it work.
Iowa plays Ohio St. in football on that date. Could be a night game.November 4th? No game scheduled during his projected visit? Curious.
Iowa's early season schedule:
OCT 27 (FRI) 7 P.M.
VS WILLIAM JEWELL COLLEGE
NOV 2 (THU) 7 P.M.
VS BELMONT ABBEY COLLEGE- NOV 10 (FRI) 8 P.M.
VS CHICAGO STATE
NOTE: same for isu, no game during visit.
Adding E.J. Liddell, another top 100 player for 2019 visiting this fall.
Updated List
September 16
2019
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Patrick McCaffery
2020
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Bryce Thompson
Not yet ranked Jamari Sibley
Not yet ranked Bowen Born
Not yet ranked Even Brauns
Not yet ranked Trey Phipps
September 23
2019
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Trayce Jackson-Davis
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ D.J. Carton
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Patrick McCaffery
2018
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Joe Wieskamp
⭐️⭐️⭐️ C.J. Fredrick
October 7
2019
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Mario McKinney
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ E.J. Liddell
November 4
2020
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Jalen Suggs
Updated List
September 16
2019
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Patrick McCaffery
2020
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Bryce Thompson
Not yet ranked Jamari Sibley
Not yet ranked Bowen Born
Not yet ranked Even Brauns
Not yet ranked Trey Phipps
September 23
2019
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Trayce Jackson-Davis
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ D.J. Carton
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Patrick McCaffery
2018
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Joe Wieskamp
⭐️⭐️⭐️ C.J. Fredrick
October 7
2019
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Mario McKinney
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ E.J. Liddell
November 4
2020
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Jalen Suggs
interesting McKinney & Liddell played on the same AAU team..the same team that Tyler Cook played on.
I have a feeling Tyler may be around on the 7th.
I believe this is Liddell's 2nd unofficial to Iowa.
I have a feeling Tyler may be around on the 7th.
I believe this is Liddell's 2nd unofficial to Iowa.
this was said on the main rivals boards that the only way Iowa can get 5* recruits was to pay them, of course this came from a Wisconsin fan and a Indiana fan so consider the source,
but any team not known for getting 5* players will be accused of cheating, to me getting a 5* recruit is nice but really how much good is a 1 n Done at Iowa?
give me top 100 players and top 30-50 players every time that will stick around 3-4 years.
but any team not known for getting 5* players will be accused of cheating, to me getting a 5* recruit is nice but really how much good is a 1 n Done at Iowa?
give me top 100 players and top 30-50 players every time that will stick around 3-4 years.
Liddell looks like an athletic driver with a good-looking shot. He's listed as a PF but wonder if he might legitimately play SF as well.
Unique to see a kid have so many defensive highlights. Lots of people don't think of defense and toughness as "skills", but Liddell looks like a true PF, who plays much taller than his height, unlike the many kids nowdays who are taller, but aren't really PFs. Maybe not our biggest need, but he looks like he will make some team better.
But isn't this giving something of value, and therefore breaking NCAA gift rules???
How in the hell would you know if little P is doing things the right way or not? Seriously though, how in the hell would you know?
It is better for the coaching staff to not have to worry about game prep and all that stuff when a recruit is on a visit. This way they can focus on the recruit and what better atmosphere than a football gameNovember 4th? No game scheduled during his projected visit? Curious.
Iowa's early season schedule:
OCT 27 (FRI) 7 P.M.
VS WILLIAM JEWELL COLLEGE
NOV 2 (THU) 7 P.M.
VS BELMONT ABBEY COLLEGE- NOV 10 (FRI) 8 P.M.
VS CHICAGO STATE
NOTE: same for isu, no game during visit.
Don't see how this would happen. McCaffery hasn't built this program overnight. It has been a steady rise and a gradual upgrade in talent. Now we are in the position of being able to legitimately offer scholarships to the top players in the country, something that would have been laughable when he first took over the program.
just looking at the level of recruits that P. JR is getting, just like Fran neither are pulling 5* players into their programs. why risk getting hammered on low 4* and maybe a top 50 player. if you go by Rivals there will be 3 4* players 1 of which is the only top 100 player the others outside the top 100,
Minnesota is doing the same and the state of Minnesota is losing the 5* talent to Duke. if P JR was cheating they would not have left now would they, the proof is in what is not happening with 5* recruits.
If Duke offers 100K and Minny offers a 100K where would you go? I am not saying he is or isn't cheating, you know-because I have no idea either way. But you can feel free to continue to speculate based on what most would consider no evidence at all. Just bc they are not 5 star recruits doesn't mean they are not getting $- I agree it is less likely, but don't come on here claiming you know what is going on or what is not going on at universities based on going to a recruiting website and gathering you evidence from that. You might be right, maybe P Jr had no idea what his father was really up to, or maybe he is following his exact blue print- that is not far fetched due to the fact that P Jr wouldn't even have a job if it were not for daddy
can't stand it that not everybody cheats and that P JR is not following his fathers ways? in your world everybody cheats.
Did you even read what I said? I said I have no idea who is or who isn't cheating. I am merely pointing out that you are claiming Minny isn't cheating and you have no freaking clue one way or another......it is becoming apparent that you have freaking clue in general by reading your post......it's only a matter of time before this new profile of yours gets banned like the other 100
and you can't prove and have no clue that Minnesota IS cheating and I do reserve the right to post MY OPINION.
You do have that right and I support that. However, when you try to state your opinion as fact or that you have some inside information the I do have a problem. If you would have said "I personally do not think Minnesota has been cheating because....." then that is acceptable and I wouldn't argue that.
Furthermore, I never said Minny was or wasn't cheating because you are right, I have no clue.
William freaking Jewel College? They were the #1 hated school of my Alma Mater Missouri Valley College, an NAIA Div 2 powerhouse. Iowa is playing William Jewel?
I agree Iowa is looking better now and in to the future. But a nore talented roster than ISU. If you can prove your statement with facts I will listen but if not im gonna have to say your crazy.List indicates perhaps a preference for schools within 500 miles of home or so. May give us a slightly better chance than normal, but ISU is perhaps the best combination of program and distance. We have the more talented roster
I don't know if Little Dick Pitino is cheating. My sense is probably not, but they did have one of the worst teams in America in 2015 and they were a near powerhouse and NCAA team in 2016, so I have a tiny seed of doubt.
Pretty tough to prove with "facts" but there is certainly a good argument to be made in favor of the Hawkeyes. Especially considering future recruits such as Pat Mc and Joe W coming in. I do think ISU is a very talented basketball team, however; I just don't think I will ever buy into how they assemble their teams
Minny has a bad history of coaches ignoring rules, and Little Dick grew up watching his daddy cheat. That alone makes Minny a school that seems more likely to have cheated. I don't remember details, but weren't there some off-court issues at Minny in Little Dick's first couple of years? We have no way to know about recruiting violations, but how you manage your kids and what type of recruit you bring in are also elements of running a "clean program."
In contrast, Fran seems to recruit players who are good citizens and you would be happy to have as your kid's best friends. Only exception might be the controversial recruit with a bad history, who was only here for a few weeks. Fran seems to walk away from recruits, who demonstrate character issues during the recruiting process.
if I can use ESPN rankings these are the players currently projected to be this years starters
SO PG Bohannon 4* just outside their top 100
RSSO SG Moss 4* just outside their top 100
RSJR SF Baer NR
SO PF Cook 4* # 38 overall #8 PF
FR C Garza 4* top 100 #13 C
not starting CG Connor 4* top 100 #22 SG
that looks pretty close to being better than ISU
Recruiting philosophy has changed in Ames. Yes ISU got the reputation as transfer U but that was more of a deal where Fred hated recruiting and didnt put much effort into the HS scene. We had an assistant coach that was an ace recruiter and he was the only reason ISU got the high level HS kids they got. But Coach Prohm is almost the complete opposite of that his main focus in his recruiting philosophy is HS kids and goes after JUCO and Transfers to fill in holes. In the 4 recruiting classes under Prohm so far they have brought In 11 HS, 5 Grad Transfers, 1 JUCO, and only 2 sit out Transfers. But back on topic. I did go back and look at the 247 rankings since Prohm became Coach and the numbers are very very close for each teams rankings. In 2015 ISU had the #72 ranked class with 3 recruits and only 1 being a 4 Star Iowa ended up with the #79 ranked class and no 4 Star players. 2016 Iowa State had the #35 class with again one 4 Star player Iowa came out with the #37 class and also had one 4 Star. 2017 ISU had the #56 class with two 4 Stars Iowa had the #57 class with one 4 Star. So far in the 2018 class Iowa State has the #28 ranked class with one 4 Star but the ranking is likely to go up with 1 scholarship left to fill Iowa is likely done with their 2018 class and it sits at the #35 spot with one 4 Star. After a little research just on recruiting rankings ISU has the more talented team on paper but it seems to be more even than ever before.
ISU projected starting line up
G) Donovan Jackson "3/4 star depending on site"
G) Lindell Wigginton "4/5 Star depending on site"
G) Jakolby Long "4 stars across all sites"
F) Cam Lard "4 Star on ESPN"
F) Solomon Young "3 Star"
And yes you are right these 2 teams are as close to talent as they have ever been in my lifetime.
Good factual argument, but I believe that having non-HS recruits make up about 42% of your recruiting classes (8/19 per your info) does NOT demonstrate a "main focus in his recruiting philosophy is HS kids". Given the ranking of classes, why are there so many holes to fill with transfers?
Honestly, I wish Fran had looked for a few more transfers, especially to firm up the PG position, but the one he got turned out to not be a good fit.
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