Yeah I feel like last night wasn’t the best game to demand more minutes for the bench.
When Rutgers is allowed to play that physical and not get called for it, it’s going to be a tough night all around.
JBo, PMac, CMac played 68 minutes
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When Rutgers is allowed to play that physical and not get called for it, it’s going to be a tough night all around.
At the 3 or 4 minute mark you just tell Joe to drive and try to get a shot or draw a foul. It was crystal clear that nobody was going to step up by this point, but Fran kept screwing around with his no motion offense.
I'm okay with pmac shooting the three, I'm not okay with him playing 31 minutes and getting 3 rebounds. He had zero personal fouls and Kris had 2 in a rough game...what does that tell you about how willing PMAC is to mix it up physically? CMAC had 3 rebounds in 9 minutes---CMAC plays hard, that part there is no question.
Kris shot poorly but he did defend. Last two games 10 min and 11 min is just not enough when PMAC has gotten 31 min in both games.
Bench really played poorly and this team is doesn't have any pure shooters in the starting lineup or 2nd team. The loss is not surprising given how the shot the ball. . The only guy on the team that has 3pt shooting upside is Sandfort--I'd like to see him get more minutes, but he probably doesn't fit in at 2G and at the 3 he would be behind PMAC.
His last 3 games have been pretty bad. You can't have one of your starting forwards playing 30+ per game shooting 33% and picking up 2 rebounds. He's been a complete non-factor on the boards and his defense has been below average at best. Fran's answer seems to be playing him even more minutes as he continues to slump. What happened to the mantra of "playing the hot hand". Does that not apply to Pmac and Jbo?
Give Payton 11 shots and I believe we win that game last night
Changing his last name to McCaffery might get him minutes to take 11 shots
Fran's substitution patters have been confusing since his first game at Iowa. That will never change
I really like Rebraca’s effort on defense and rebounding. He misses too many bunnies, though.
I always encourage people to look at the numbers. Filip has an effective FG% of 56.5% which puts him at 3rd on the team in shooting efficiency.
Not playing Kris Murray the last 2 games after what he did vs IN is indefensible. Give him a chance to "prove it".....if he struggles sit him back down. Kris is nearly as good as his brother and if he had the same amount of minutes I think he'd put up consistent 10-15 pts and 10 boards - which is more than anyone else is giving us right now.
This won't happen because FM has to have one of his boys on the floor at all times. FM is more than willing to sacrifice the team for his boys. JMO
I’m going to address this here bc I think you took offense to my “tougher team” comment last night.
Yes, the last call was awful. I don’t think there is any disputing that. However, my point about Rutgers being tougher, or perhaps Iowa lacking toughness, referred to Rutgers making plays when they had to while Iowa found a way to do the opposite. Botched 2 on 1’s, falling asleep or lack of communication of back door cuts/pick and roll, missing free throws down the stretch, missing wide open looks, unforced turnovers, etc. Listen it was an ugly game, and I know that everyone is frustrated, I just thought it was a poor idea to get in an online battle when emotions are running high. The officials were atrocious on both sides all game long, but IMO that is when you have to find the toughness to make plays in spite of them. Harper was gifted that last foul but had the toughness to go make the free throws. We lacked it last night and that was disappointing. Take care uno.
The game was tied in the final seconds, yet you say that Rutgers made the plays while Iowa did not. How does that work? The game that I saw, both teams made a few plays but missed a lot more. The game was very close with both teams missing some open shots and turning the ball. You say Harper had the toughness to make the last two free throws after an awful call. How is that toughness? Would you be saying Iowa was the tougher team if the last call would have sent Keegan to the line to win the game? I do not think that this game was a matter of who was tougher. You can make that claim when the refs let the teams decide the game, not when the refs give one team two free shots to win the game.
The refs didn’t decide the game. You don’t erase 39 plus minutes of basketball and put the entire game on the last two seconds. If you would rather substitute a different word than toughness, fine. We botched 2 on 1’s. We missed open looks. Missed free throws. We fell asleep on pick and rolls/back doors. I’m not going to spend the day arguing. It was an ugly game all the way around. Harper had the toughness to knock down the gifted free throws. We had a 50% ft shooter get subbed out for an 80% shooter and he made one of two. There are a litany of things to dissect after a tough loss. I will agree to disagree with you.
I agree that it was an ugly game and both teams made many mistakes. Rutgers missed multiple layups and fell asleep on pick and rolls/back doors as well. I give Rutgers credit for turning the game into a physical, low scoring game, which must be how they felt they could win. I do not give Rutgers credit for doing anything special to win the game when they are gifted two free throws in a tie ball game though.
I may not have liked the call, but it would have been easier to take a foul call on Keegan if Harper was at least driving to the basket at the end or attempting a shot. Instead the call was made with Harper dribbling towards the sideline with two seconds on the clock. At the point the foul was called, Harper would have had two seconds to get by Keegan and get off a shot from outside the three point line. Not impossible, but he would deserve all of the credit in the world if he had been able to do this.
After 39:58 of basketball, the game was tied, so yes, what happens in the last :02 totally decided the game. We could have had another 5:00 of OT, or Harper could have somehow killed us with an off-balance 3 at the buzzer, but to say that the ref didn't decide that game in that situation is crap. He did, just as he did the night before when he called a foul before there was (no) contact.
They took a page of the Seattle Seahawks playbook from the Legion of Boom days. Clutch, grab, hold, and dare the officials to call it. I don’t know if the official anticipated a foul at the end, but it would make no sense with 2 seconds left. JT’s layup, unless the officials are privy to a different view, had no business being overturned, same with the loose ball that was awarded to the Hawks on the Rutgers end.
Listen we all know you are gonna get ass plundered by the officials on the road, that is why it is paramount to be tough as hell in spite of them.
I wouldn’t say that I was offended by your opinion that Rutgers was the tougher team so much as I simply didn’t agree - which is fine. I suppose to an extent, you may be right that Rutgers was mentally tougher in terms of execution and making free throws etc down the stretch (I think this mental toughness disparity can at least partially be attributed to the raucous RAC environment). At the same time, I saw Iowa diving after loose balls, Rebraca taking a shoulder to the chest and foot to the ankle and some starters that looked to be pretty exhausted late in the game continuing to battle defensively and on the boards to the extent that the game was tied with under 10 seconds left and a generous call essentially gifted Rutgers the game winning free throw attempts.
We can agree to disagree and I always appreciate your levelheadedness Jelly - take care yourself
I agree 100%…maybe I just used the wrong word. We had chances to execute and failed which would have, and should have, made the final call moot. We didn’t hence all the handwringing by many fans. Not me though dude! I’ll be loud and proud on Saturday!
You're entitled to your opinion and I get that you'd like to see more Sandfort but his EFG% is actually lower than Jbo so....
Bought a few tickets the other day myself for when the Hawks come to Nebraska on the 25th. Looking forward to repping the black and gold in L town!
He might be great someday, but Sandfort has one of the lowest conference EFG%'s on the team. It's lower than Jbo's.
I lucked out and got tickets for Penn State in the 10th row. My plan is wiggle my way down next to @hawkgasser to see if he will teach me his patented lean back clap.
I managed to weasel my way into the 15th-ish row behind the Hawks bench. Trying to help Fran rest his vocal chords while ref-influencing
Joe T , Perkins and Ulis all were dribbling around at the top of the key till4-5 seconds left and then pass it to JB, kegan or Pat to throw up a wild shot.
Nope. Don’t reinvent things here. We’re there a couple times we had guys forced to shoot at the last second yes.
Great post, actually surprised to see that C-Mack is shooting that ‘well’ from beyond the arc. 😉 He seriously might have the worst shot form since Bill ‘sharp elbows’ Cartwright!😎
I agree that it was a bad call, but to basically state that nothing that happened in the previous 39:58 had any bearing on the final outcome and that the final outcome of the game instead rests solely on that one possession is pretty ludicrous. The foul call was a single event out of hundreds. This argument is silly. Get a grip.
Why don't you want to follow through on your comments about Ken O'Keefe on the football board? Instead you want to come to this board and rip on players?
You are nothing but a troll, and a worthless one at that.
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A pattern during the game that seemed inevitable. What else had they not been called for but.............. I've watched 40 plus years of BIG basketball and the refs continually amaze me with their calls, anticipating fouls that do not occur. Just wondering when their job on the floor will be appropriately "policed" and those that screw up penalized. I know, this will not likely happen, but the problem isn't going away when the stripes take it into their hands to dictate the outcome of certain games.
I'd be curious to hear from those who follow Iowa hoops very closely what their take has been on Patrick McCaffery's career overall so far. Seems he came to Iowa with lots of hype but has never developed into that consistently strong game-in game-out performer? True? Not true?
Personally, PMac is the biggest disappointment on the team this season. Watching him play last year I thought he would emerge as an excellent player - maybe not a star, but like a 15/7/6 guy who makes a lots of plays. Maybe a Nicholas Baer guy.
I will say that he is one guy that seems to be looking for a shot. But when he takes one it usually some sort of goofy runner 12 ft layup attempt where he makes about 1 in 20.
So far, I have been wrong about his trajectory - hope it's not too late.
Thanks.
So his career overall so far--- do you view it the same?
You mentioned Nichols Baer......would you compare his Iowa career at this point to Baer's?
Do I view it the same as what? He was pretty good last year when he didn't really have to do a lot. Now his role is much more important to the team and the productivity just isn't there.
He's no Nick Baer.
PMAC can create his own shot---that is probably his best asset. He isn't a pure shooter--just look at his form. He's not a Jok, Gatens, JBo.
With PMAC's form, his 3pt shooting at 31% might be where he stays for his career--hard to predict. As to His runners...he shoots the ball way to hard off the glass. He certainly can improve there. His big issue is he can't defend/rebound his postion.
Sandfort so far this season hasn't shot consistently. He very well might stink up the court if he got more PT, but other than JBO he is the only pure shooter on the team. Given more PT and smarter shot selection, he might start making them and any PT invested in him helps the team for long run. JBO himself might start making his shots, but he is always going to be 6'1 at 2G and a guy other teams can post up or blow by and there is no upside to investing big PT in his development.
Good points. I think there is an up side with PMac, but he has to figure out who he is as a player. Fran touts that he can play multiple positions and he can, but playing them and playing them well are two different things. He gets handled by bigger bodied guys and struggles to stay in front of quicker guys. If he was a more consistent scorer, you can live with some defensive gaps, but that part of his game is still evolving.
I like that he is aggressive and looks to drive, but his shot selection is poor. I would rather see him pull up for a jumper than shoot so many off balance NBA runners / floaters. It seems like he is struggling to translate what he was able to do in high school to the college level.
