JBo was 24 of 26 from 3 last night
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Tom, yes to this. That was my feeling as well. Will be plenty of minutes to go around for everyone. If Pemsl returns, I think you RS Murray’s and Josh O next year b/c you will have Nunge and Cordell to play post and spell the 4 and 5 position next year. I think with this lineup and those three (JBo, CJF, JW,) starting you will have JT and PMac as reserves for the guard court and the 3 position. That would leave a rotation of 9, which I like but not sure you would have enough depth in the guard position so if Ullis and Perkins are willing and able to play, I think you might try to play them in ‘20-‘21.
Besides is it possible to RS an entire class of 5 guys? !!! Probably not.
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somebody will have to as there are only 5 players allowed on the court at 1 time, the best thing is Fran will have plenty of options to work with and will be able to have multiple 3 point shooters on the floor at ALL times.
this is a good thing.
looking at it this could be Fran's calvary at the end of the game in mop up duty
FR Ulis @ the 1
FR Perkins @ the 2
FR Kris @ the 3
FR Keepan @ the 4
FR Ogundele @ the 5
the future starters
looking at as it being at the end of games to protect the lead as that is Iowa best FT shooting as a group.
for long periods of time I agree, I am thinking about FT Shooting only.
right now they are shooting 74.1 % from the FTL.
Yes, if JBo toughed it out and doesn't RS, Iowa wins a couple more B1G games this year...Nebraska road loss and PSU road loss were ripe for taking.... However next year, I think the addition of an athletic defender/shooter at guard (Perkins) and Healthy JBO, and experienced JoeT makes for possibility of a team that can compete for Final-4 in NCAA with JBO being the best 3pt shooter in college B-ball. Hopefully no one leaves, because the table is set for a once every 40 year epic run . Garza obviously is MVP and JBo is clutch closer/3pt main threat.
JO has already stated that he is NOT RS'ing and Fran can't just RS who he does or not want to RS, he can suggest and that's all.Tom, yes to this. That was my feeling as well. Will be plenty of minutes to go around for everyone. If Pemsl returns, I think you RS Murray’s and Josh O next year b/c you will have Nunge and Cordell to play post and spell the 4 and 5 position next year. I think with this lineup and those three (JBo, CJF, JW,) starting you will have JT and PMac as reserves for the guard court and the 3 position. That would leave a rotation of 9, which I like but not sure you would have enough depth in the guard position so if Ullis and Perkins are willing and able to play, I think you might try to play them in ‘20-‘21.
Besides is it possible to RS an entire class of 5 guys? !!! Probably not.
the Twins will be very old for incoming FR so them RS'ing makes no sense from their view point.
JO like I said won't RS
so the only 2 that may RS are Ulis and Perkin's. will they? I guess we will just have to wait and see,
Pemsl if he plays the rest of the season like he did vs OSU he just might come back and be a very valuable player as a 5th year SR.
with Patrick shooting this is a plus for next season, I would really like to see them use the full court pressure more and push the offensive tempo even faster to wear out the other teams.
adj D be d*****
Ralph Miller's team went undefeated in BT play and they avg over 100 ppg, and that was very exciting year to watch.
Then Toussaint goes back to being a backup, which is where he began the year before injuries forced him into a starting role. OR, as Sleeping Dog said, Bohannon (at least at the beginning of the year, while he reacclimates himself) comes off the bench, but plays high minutes and is in at the end of games. CJ is better than Bohannon straight up so not sure why he’d come off the bench for him
Thinking CJ is going to the bench is dumb.
And I really hope Fran doesn't go back to a 10 man, or more, rotation. 9 should be tops with 8 preferred.
He's been forced to play less guys the last 2 seasons because of injuries and redshirts and has the 2 best seasons of coaching at Iowa to show for it.
injuries to CJ indicates this to me.
again its all about when they play and not who starts with Fran.
way too many are hung up who starts and ignores who's on the floor at the end of the games. this is the important part of the game when games are usually won or lost at the FTL. with 4 guards they can spread the floor and make it very difficult to stop the inbound pass then figure out who to Foul,
looking at who comes back for FT shooters
JB 90%+
JW 83% +
JT 81% +
CW 78% +
CJ 78% +
even Nunge 75%+ as a FR.
LG as a SO shot 80% + this year his % is suffering maybe its because he has taken on a larger work load and he gets tired legs.
Tom, yes to this. That was my feeling as well. Will be plenty of minutes to go around for everyone. If Pemsl returns, I think you RS Murray’s and Josh O next year b/c you will have Nunge and Cordell to play post and spell the 4 and 5 position next year. I think with this lineup and those three (JBo, CJF, JW,) starting you will have JT and PMac as reserves for the guard court and the 3 position. That would leave a rotation of 9, which I like but not sure you would have enough depth in the guard position so if Ullis and Perkins are willing and able to play, I think you might try to play them in ‘20-‘21.
Besides is it possible to RS an entire class of 5 guys? !!! Probably not.
I just can't see any of the freshman playing worthwhile minutes next year if everyone is back.
Theres a ton of 3rd, 4th and 5th year players ahead of them.
If Fran can hold this together he could be set up for a Wisconsin typ run where its primarily upperclassmen playing year after year.
Really pleased how well JT has shot from the line as a true freshman. That said JoBo + Frederick should also be a very good FT shooting combo.
Toussaint/Ulis
Fredrick/Bohannon/Perkins
Wieskamp/Murray/Murray
McCaffery/Pemsl/McCaffery
Garza/Nunge/Ogundele
That’s 14 players who could feasibly contribute next year (of course many can play multiple positions). I agree with those who believe that 9ish players is the optimal amount in a given game, but am really struggling to see how Fran gets down to that number.
Potential Offseason Stories/Moves
- Do Pemsl and/or Bohannon consider grad transferring?
- How many freshmen announce a redshirt?
- Is Pat going to be able to come back and be a contributor next year?
- We know that Connor is a more than capable contributor on the team. But does he decide that he wants to make baseball his full time focus and drop hoops? (Seems unlikely that he would want to miss out on next year, especially since he didn’t end up getting to play with Pat this year)
- Does Garza go pro?
Going to be one of the most interesting offseasons to follow in some time for the basketball team, in my opinion
Fredrick/Bohannon/Perkins
Wieskamp/Murray/Murray
McCaffery/Pemsl/McCaffery
Garza/Nunge/Ogundele
That’s 14 players who could feasibly contribute next year (of course many can play multiple positions). I agree with those who believe that 9ish players is the optimal amount in a given game, but am really struggling to see how Fran gets down to that number.
Potential Offseason Stories/Moves
- Do Pemsl and/or Bohannon consider grad transferring?
- How many freshmen announce a redshirt?
- Is Pat going to be able to come back and be a contributor next year?
- We know that Connor is a more than capable contributor on the team. But does he decide that he wants to make baseball his full time focus and drop hoops? (Seems unlikely that he would want to miss out on next year, especially since he didn’t end up getting to play with Pat this year)
- Does Garza go pro?
Going to be one of the most interesting offseasons to follow in some time for the basketball team, in my opinion
1st Fran CANNOT FORCE A PLAYER TO RS.
so its pointless to even talk or think about who will or won't RS
as for the returners off a team that as of now plays 7 scholarship players with leaving guarenteed to leave
SR Kriener
RSSR Evelyn
that leaves just the 5 starters. this team is not as deep as some are trying to make out to be
Pemsl is playing and looks to be getting it together he makes 6 players with extended playing time.
Nunge played in 3 games since he last played in March of 2018.
Patrick has yet to play sustained minutes at the College level
that makes 8 players with any kind of experience that is returning.
now for the FR
1 Ulis has a very good chance of playing as he will be JT primary back up to JB
2 Perkins right now the 3rd option at either the 1 or 2
3 Kris if and this is a very big if Patrick can play will be the 3rd option, otherwise he is the #2 option behind JW
4 Pemsl [if he returns will be the 2nd option other wise Keegan will be the 2nd option but if Pemsl returns he will be the 3rd option.
5 Nunge will be the 2nd option with Ugundele the 3rd option.
wild card being Nunge who can/will play the 4 and 5.
this team does not return that much experienced talent so some of the FR may play extended minute even in just a 10 man rotation. even other teams are playing 11 or 12 players now.
so its pointless to even talk or think about who will or won't RS
as for the returners off a team that as of now plays 7 scholarship players with leaving guarenteed to leave
SR Kriener
RSSR Evelyn
that leaves just the 5 starters. this team is not as deep as some are trying to make out to be
Pemsl is playing and looks to be getting it together he makes 6 players with extended playing time.
Nunge played in 3 games since he last played in March of 2018.
Patrick has yet to play sustained minutes at the College level
that makes 8 players with any kind of experience that is returning.
now for the FR
1 Ulis has a very good chance of playing as he will be JT primary back up to JB
2 Perkins right now the 3rd option at either the 1 or 2
3 Kris if and this is a very big if Patrick can play will be the 3rd option, otherwise he is the #2 option behind JW
4 Pemsl [if he returns will be the 2nd option other wise Keegan will be the 2nd option but if Pemsl returns he will be the 3rd option.
5 Nunge will be the 2nd option with Ugundele the 3rd option.
wild card being Nunge who can/will play the 4 and 5.
this team does not return that much experienced talent so some of the FR may play extended minute even in just a 10 man rotation. even other teams are playing 11 or 12 players now.
the NCAA that's who. all Fran can do is suggest it and nothing else.
same with any College BB coach can do. even KF can do is suggest, the difference is 90% of the incoming FB players already know they need at least a year or 2 before they can/will play.
Who said that Fran can force a player to redshirt?
Why do all of you guys except Herby hate the Hawkeyes?!?!?!?!?!
the way poster are saying that this player should RS or that player should RS its pretty obvious as to who is saying that Fran can force a player any player to RS.
I hope Pemsl comes back. He and Garza would be the only bigs with significant experience. If Nunge somehow = Kreiner that provides 3 bigs which is what we have this year. If one of the freshman can step up, great, but very few bigs play well (or consistently) as freshman. Frontcourt is too thin next year if Pemsl doesn't come back.
Iowa will be loaded at the wings/guard positions if PMac and Ulis are healthy and live up to the hype. Even if those two don't, Iowa's backcourt will be solid.
Iowa will be loaded at the wings/guard positions if PMac and Ulis are healthy and live up to the hype. Even if those two don't, Iowa's backcourt will be solid.
i don’t know with JBo, Connor, Joe T, Weizy, Nunge, Cordell, Patrick, and Luka coming back next year, kinda hard to play freshman beyond their game total not to redshirt some, if not all of them. Don’t have to be a dick about it.
Why do you guys all think JB will even be playing next year and even if he does why would you want him to... the point is our team is better without him . The kid can shoot sure.. but he lacks quickness, is a liability on defense and quite frankly does not have the ability to to move our offense . Next year we will have a seasoned Toussaint and basically scorers like Wiescamp, Frederick, hopefully Garza who have built a strong chemistry throughout this year . If he can play that’s fine but I really only see him as another option coming off the bench.
Once they play a second in a game, they burn a year of eligibility unless they get injured and qualify for a medical hardship.
There is no "game total" in basketball.
FFS.
Only you would say a team that is expected to return around 90% of it's production is not returning much experienced talent.
I concur.....book it.
People like to get cute. Fran's not going to put any of those guys on the bench. Nunge, Joe T, and Pat will get plenty of minutes, but they won't start.
You have to admit, its kind of funny watching the "Iowa pibolar express" fan base. A couple of months ago lots of folks on this very website were bemoaning how historically bad this recruiting class was, and now want to tie up their scholorships by keeping the entire class here for five years and not recruit better players over them.Tom, yes to this. That was my feeling as well. Will be plenty of minutes to go around for everyone. If Pemsl returns, I think you RS Murray’s and Josh O next year b/c you will have Nunge and Cordell to play post and spell the 4 and 5 position next year. I think with this lineup and those three (JBo, CJF, JW,) starting you will have JT and PMac as reserves for the guard court and the 3 position. That would leave a rotation of 9, which I like but not sure you would have enough depth in the guard position so if Ullis and Perkins are willing and able to play, I think you might try to play them in ‘20-‘21.
Besides is it possible to RS an entire class of 5 guys? !!! Probably not.
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Then how did JBo play in most, if not all of the games including vs ISU then shut it down so he didn’t lose his redshirt?
He did not get a “redshirt”, he received a “medical hardship”.
The qualifications for a medical red shirt are not the same as those required for a traditional red shirt,... two different animals, and in fact the former shouldn't even be called a "red shirt"...
Can we put to rest the ‘JBo is a defensive liability’ commentary?
Yeah, he’s not a great defender, can’t put the same pressure on a guy like Joe T. But our defense is sub par with/without JBo.
If healthy, he starts. And we hope his presence offensively offsets any defensive deficiencies.
Yeah, he’s not a great defender, can’t put the same pressure on a guy like Joe T. But our defense is sub par with/without JBo.
If healthy, he starts. And we hope his presence offensively offsets any defensive deficiencies.
This board is full of really dumb posts, but you my friend have submitted a post that ranks up near the top. JB isn’t the fastest or the best defender but if you watch a game and have an IQ over say 80 you would see that what he lacks in speed and quickness he more than makes up for in intelligence and anticipation. He is actually an above average defender and an elite offensive weapon. Yes we can find a spot for him.
