What someone spends their money on doesn't really concern me, and no. I am and have been in favor of a mixed economy, preferably one where the insurance industry is small enough to drown in a bathtub.
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What someone spends their money on doesn't really concern me, and no. I am and have been in favor of a mixed economy, preferably one where the insurance industry is small enough to drown in a bathtub.
All pesticides are registered by an EPA issued number, and its uses are guided by a label, which is the letter of the law when it comes to application procedures. These uses are periodically reviewed, and environmental risks assessed based on ‘new’ science that becomes available.
What I’m saying is this process didn’t change during the Trump administration.
As an example, the complete revocation of the insecticide chlorpyrifos was initiated during the Trump administration. The revocation went into effect in 2021. It was then found the EPA violated some procedures and chlorpyrifos was allowed back on the market during the Biden administration while the EPA allowed for a public comment period. After that period, chlorpyrifos was allowed and will be registered on 11 crops going forward, but wont have the widespread label allowances it previously had.
Long story short, the way the EPA went about its business changed very little (at least in regards to pesticide regulation) during the Trump administration.
If RFK Jr does some of the things he’s talking about, we may see huge changes in this administration. I guess we’ll see.
Incidentally, the wife received a letter from the cousin who rents her land in Indiana. Expect the check in 2025 to be about $4000 less than last year.
According to my weekly Farm Bureau newsletter corn and soybean receipts are down $25 billion, or 9%. Corn and soybean prices are both expected to go down 5% and 7% respectively. I'm sure Trump has a plan for that.
According to my weekly Farm Bureau newsletter corn and soybean receipts are down $25 billion, or 9%. Corn and soybean prices are both expected to go down 5% and 7% respectively. I'm sure Trump has a plan for that.
Well... not really a plan... but a concept for putting together a plan 😅
They legalized the use of dozens of pesticides that were either already banned or on track to be banned. That is the very definition of de-regulation.
I don't know but given who was in charge I wouldn't consider any review process they underwent to be reliable. You are asking me details like I work there. Do you have some personal stake in this and that's why you are so defensive? Are you using these pesticides on a farm or something? You are weirdly into this topic.
Republicans giving themselves a pay raise and adding crushing debt? You guys are #Winning!
Elimination of Chevron means that a judge can overrule EPA's review processes now.
Not personal, and I don’t farm, but I live and breathe this sort of stuff for my job. But I always tell people if the EPA revoked all tolerances of pesticides I’d be a millionaire in short order. It’s relatively easy to farm and make recommendations to farmers using pesticides. Without pesticides, farmers would only have the hundreds of compounds not under the auspices of EPA regulation to utilize. Margin on those products at the retail and manufacturer level are huge. So honestly, for me personally, it would be great if the EPA did away with pesticides.
Fair enough. Just understand when you place people in leadership positions and the 2nd biggest qualification for getting that job is for you to undermine and circumvent the expertise those agencies provide then that is why it is important to not trust and to question every decision that is made while that leadership is in place.
EPA should have to justify their review processes, or expect them to be overruled...
I have no problem with that. I’m maybe the most cynical person you’d ever meet, especially when it comes to government policy decisions. My main point was that in my view I didn’t see any difference in how the EPA went about its business during the Trump administration, as compared to previous times ones.
If the discussion is about how the EPA does things, that is definitely open to criticism.
You can argue that we’ve seen govt agencies take on too much authority - that would be something you should have congress look into imo.
But there’s also such a thing as swinging the pendulum too far the other way.the EPA was created for good reasons. Reigning them in should not be the purview of judges alone.
I've got no problem with the judicial system reining in an unchecked bureaucracy,.. Bring it.
Yeah we all can see that, we just elected a confirmed sexual abuser and felon.
Except for the fact that it was never unchecked. EPA in particular has a long review process before enacting any rule changes.
SC ruled - was it last year? That agencies couldn’t assume any powers not expressly laid out by congress when they tossed out the chevron doctrine. Which sounds neat in theory - but ignores that it’s simply impossible to consider every potential situation when creating a new government agency. It’s necessary to give them some leeway to adjust for changing circumstances.
Tossing chevron is great for businesses - despite a long history of learning that unchecked businesses are bad as well, conservatives seem totally okay with that, and believe that all government is bad.
Translation: “Yee haw I’m gettin’ muh pork! Time to own some libs!”
Well, there is plenty of criticism for the way the EPA was run under the previous administration and there is no reason to think it will be different this time around. Not that it matters anymore anyway since the Supreme Court has effectively eliminated the government's ability to actually govern most things.
And they've had entirely too much leeway,.. Time to rein in the unelected bureaucracy.
You wouldn't want to elect every single position required to run an effective government, and the public would suck at doing it. Who will be appointed to leadership positions is a factor you should be considering when you make your vote for President.
Republicans won’t cut a thing. They won’t do anything but piss down our legs in an attempt to convince us it’s raining.
I'm sure I disagree with many of the cuts but they won the election so it is their privilege to do these things. Just don't blame Democrats when the services these agencies provided are suddenly no longer done and you then realize exactly what these agencies were providing. Also, don't get mad about how "government can't run anything" when these bills are actually designed to make sure government can't do anything.
I won't blame the D's if services are no longer available. Significant changes, including cuts are long overdue.
I won't be upset if they means test social security, and if I don't someday collect that someday either.
Well, we are all going to find out, that's for sure. None of these cuts are going to come anywhere close to the $2 trillion they are wanting to do though. I doubt they even reach $100 billion.
I think you’ll find that many of those services were far more important than you realize.
We are $37 trillion in debt. I'd prefer to make the changes sooner than later.
What we are doing now isn't working.
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