Republicans run on the precept that "government cannot do anything right", and if you elect them into office, they'll prove it.
Johnson faces brewing GOP rebellion after farm aid deal collapses
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Republicans run on the precept that "government cannot do anything right", and if you elect them into office, they'll prove it.
Changes for the sake of changes rarely works out well either.
If you’re going to cut services x y or z, be sure of the downstream impact before just cutting it.
I don’t disagree, I think cuts are necessary. But republicans aren’t looking at this from the deficit perspective. They have a major tax cut they have to pay for coming.
You must be a pretty crappy teacher. No cuts have been made, and you're already going over the deep end.
Not sure why an attack on my former profession is needed there.
Republicans have openly stated they want to cut trillions from the budget. If they’re anywhere close to that, you don’t think that’s going to cause significant pain to millions of Americans unnecessarily?
No. I believe there will be pain. And it will be necessary.
Joe and the D's have had the past 4 years, and they haven't made an honest effort in cutting costs. In fact, the work-from-home union contract they recently signed does the opposite. As does selling the border fence, that's now being sold for cents on the dollar.
If we cut something that becomes sorely missed,.. it can put it back.
We could have slashed the deficit/debt by making people go into the office and selling border fence pieces for full price? How are we just now hearing about this silver bullet to our problems?
The whole border fence thing was just a political marketing tool aimed towards the gullible (and there are a lot of these people) members of the public who are unable to think critically.
Maybe we should put thought into that ahead of time?
We will see. I expect to see the D party crying over the next several months.
Sort of like what you've been doing on this board.
Exactly. Joe and the crew could have been making cuts right along, and chose not to.
Scruffy... your typical weakassed attempt at deflection when presented with the FACTS. Still trying to cover for the convicted felon and found sexual abuser. I guess you hate facts and prefer the cult's "alternate facts". 🤣🤣
Yep, and a moron and a felon and found to have sexually abused a woman. Still going to be those. Those character faults dont change no matter what job the criminal holds. Glad we agree. Still... so sad for our country
Well, almost. Major tax cut for those making over $1 million. Anyone below that will be getting a tax raise to help pay for their tax cut. Remember, you all voted for this.
Scruffy with one more weakassed attempt at deflection. That's all you seem to have anymore dude. 🤣 I guess when the truth and facts aren't on your side you'll grasp at about any straw, no matter how embarrassing for you. Bonespurs... accused, admitted, tried, found to have committed the heinous act by a unanimous jury in about 30 minutes, find five and a half MILLION $$ for sexually abusing the woman. Man, he's the lowest of the low isn't he? I mean really, now a found sexual abuser. Wow. So sad he's becoming the paper president. Is he legally required to stay 100 yards away from schools now?
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You is the low intelligent, deplorable, gullible maga cult. You know, 30% of the eligible voters in the United States. That's why he's the paper president.
Wow, you're first sentence is a really odd statement and makes zero sense. You lose all credibility when you make crazy statements like that.
What’s hilarious is I’ve had to deal with several posters attacking for my teacher credentials (I’m not a teacher anymore and have said so NUMEROUS times) just this week. Then there have been a few who I’ve reported to mods due to personal attacks that certain posters have made this week, hopefully something comes of that.
One I put on the ignore list, which I rarely do.
1. For comparison, when the Ds controlled the House in the 116th (with Rs in control of the Senate and WH) and in the 117th (D control of Senate and WH) we negotiated and passed full appropriations bills. So it’s not a divided gov’t issue. It’s just House GOP incompetence.
2. To be clear, they have brought partial appropriations bills to the floor. Some of passed the House. All were DOA in the Senate because they were so loaded with culture war nonsense and just plain meanness. Those bills came about in part because of deep animosity within the House GOP caucus.
3. But it was also because - when McCarthy was failing to win his speakership - he made a bunch of concessions to his wing-nut faction to give the wing nuts seats on the rules committee that controls what and how bills get to the floor.
4. By putting a nihilistic minority in charge of the floor, he made it hard, if not impossible for bills supported by the majority of the House to get to the floor. When the House GOP finally voted for McCarthy, they also approved those concessions. E.g., they made this bed, eyes wide open.
5. For better or for worse, you can bypass the rules committee by bringing bills to the floor under “suspension” of the rules, but those bills can only pass with super majorities. McCarthy & Johnson have had to rely on that to keep gov’t open because of their choice to elevate their nihilist wing.
6. But since the nihilists oppose functioning government, that means that the supermajority vote requirement has had to be cobbled together with a minority of the Rs and virtually all of the Ds. E.g., majority dem support on the floor.
7. And so, for the last two years, the Rs have controlled what comes to the floor, but Ds have controlled what leaves the floor. Hakeem and Dem leadership deserve a lot of credit for the way they’ve played that hand. But House Rs dealt the cards.
8. At a macro level, this means that for the entirety of the McCarthy/Johnson era, funding levels have been maintained at levels set by the House Dems under Pelosi leadership. The world has changed in 2 years, so that shouldn’t be seen as partisan - it’s just incompetence on their part. BUT…
9. Every time they pass a CR, the R wingnut faction complains that they are being forced to fund dem priorities. Well, yeah. Because you misplayed a strong hand. But then they throw temper tantrums. Sometimes they even evict their speaker out of pique. Which is how we got to yesterday.
10. Johnson has never been a strong speaker. Neither respected nor feared, he’s got no real power but it’s not clear there are any Rs who could manage this ungovernable caucus. His greatest strength - like McCarthy’s - may simply be that he’s dumb enough to think he can do the job.
11. And so now, with gov’t running out of $ Friday, and him wanting to get his caucus to support him for Speaker in the next Congress a few weeks later, he’s again got to choose between acting as the speaker of the full house & keeping the gov’t or pandering to the wing nuts by shutting it down.
12. To his credit, he tried to go through door 1, continuing what we’ve done for the last 2 years. But then Musk & Trump (who are both cut from fine wing nut cloth) weighed in, making his future speakership incompatible with governance.
13. He had a choice at that point to show strength and bring a bill to the floor that would have passed. Instead, he folded like a Montgomery chair. He managed to simultaneously show fealty to Trump and demonstrate an utter fear of leadership. Right out of the Kevin McCarthy playbook.
14. I don’t know how today will play out. But I do know that there is no one in the House GOP who (a) wants government to work, consistent with the will of the majority and (b) has the leadership skills to make sure it does, even when that’s opposed by their own caucus.
15. Earlier this term, I referred to the House GOP as a collection of cowards, led by morons. That’s not only still true, but getting truer. The party of Lincoln - and more broadly, the American people - deserve so much better. /fin
Small postscript: the deal negotiated with Biden and McCarthy over the debt ceiling did allow the passage of funding bills that weren't CRs. But the constraints on that effectively set priorities at D levels, daring the GOP to legislate. They didnt.
We have all seen the do nothing House put forth zero meaningful legislation and governing for the past two years. Hell... the McCarthy leadership fiasco was just the tip of their incompetent governance. They couldn't wipe their own ass correctly. And now they've got the paper president trying to tell them which direction to go, which is like the blind leading the blind. Talk about a shit show.
It's just one of the GOP buzz ideas these cult followers believe in. All teachers are evil. The funny thing is, not one of them could last a day in a classroom. They couldn't even handle having their kids home with them during covid, they were too stupid to help their kids with classes and they really didn't want to deal with their own idiot kids. So rather than look in the mirror, they did the GOP method of blame others.
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