This makes no sense.
Liar, that is some profound stuff you are slinging around. Why dont you make a post to identify the lie?
Join the "Good Guys" and defend yourself from the terrorists!
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This makes no sense.
Liar, that is some profound stuff you are slinging around. Why dont you make a post to identify the lie?
Why dont you explain your position? Do you really think going back to the wild wild west days is the solution?
What do you think would happen in a dark theater if everyone was packin heat? Do you really think the shooter would have been killed without additional lives lost?
Contrary to popular belief the "Wild West" wasn't nearly as wild as movies like to portray it. From a crime standpoint it was much safer than the U.S. Is now. You want to know why criminals are so famous from that era? It's because there weren't that many of them.
Now as for your fantasy about a Samaritan killing more people in the cinema, are you dumb enough to think he wouldn't be smart enough to shoot the guy with the rifles rather than the people cowering in between the seats?
Stop basing your opinions and speculations on fictional movies and shows.
It's called abortion. Crime rates and gun ownership had virtually no correlation until the early 90's when all those aborted fetuses would have turned 18.
It's about time that you finally gave credit to Bill Clinton
"During the administration of William Jefferson Clinton, the U.S. enjoyed more peace and economic well being than at any time in its history. He was the first Democratic president since Franklin D. Roosevelt to win a second term. He could point to the lowest unemployment rate in modern times, the lowest inflation in 30 years, the highest home ownership in the country's history, dropping crime rates in many places, and reduced welfare rolls. He proposed the first balanced budget in decades and achieved a budget surplus. As part of a plan to celebrate the millennium in 2000, Clinton called for a great national initiative to end racial discrimination."
https://www.whitehouse.gov/1600/presidents/williamjclinton
You lost me at 40 rounds a minute, and grenade launcher.
Let me know when you want to have a serious discussion on this, because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A grenade launcher is a military weapon of war. You cannot buy one, nor are you allowed to possess one as a civilian.
Why do I need to kill that much? SMDH.....what kind of a question is that? And we have many gun restrictions and control laws on the books. Are you really this daft?
Um...no. You really think airlines were concerned about shoe bombs before that?
Im guessing during the wild wild west days shootings were common. You didnt hear about it due to limited media.
How in the heck would the guy pin point the shooter in a dark theater? A gun flash? Im betting once your Samaritan fired his weapon, the other people with guns would confuse him with the shooter. What if there was 10 Samaritans in the theater? You are being naive to think it would go down the way you are saying. If it was in daylight, I would agree with you, but a dark theater is a different story.
What are you basing your theory on? Personal experience?
You would be guessing wrong.
Common sense. That y'all are still trying to argue the anti-gun side of this thread is an amazing show of obtusive thinking.
Since some haven't gotten a clue yet:
"Before turning to specific examples of anarchocapitalistic institutions in the American West, it is useful to examine the legendary characterization of the "wild, wild West." The potential for chaos is a major objection to trust in the market for enforcement of rights, and many histories of the West seem to substantiate this argument. These histories describe the era and area as characterized by gunfights, horse-thievery, and general disrespect for basic human rights.
The taste for the dramatic in literature and other entertainment forms has led to concentration on the seeming disparity between the Westerners' desire for order and the prevailing disorder. If the Hollywood image of the West were not enough to taint our view, scholars of violence have contributed with quotes such as the following: "We can report with some assurance that compared to frontier days there has been a significant decrease in crimes of violence in the United States."[11]
Recently, however, more careful examinations of the conditions that existed cause one to doubt the accuracy of this perception. In his book, Frontier Violence: Another Look, W. Eugene Hollon stated that he believed "that the Western frontier was a far more civilized, more peaceful, and safer place than American society is today."[12] The legend of the "wild, wild West" lives on despite Robert Dykstra's finding that in five of the major cattle towns (Abilene, Ellsworth, Wichita, Dodge City, and Caldwell) for the years from 1870 to 1885, only 45 homicides were reported — an average of 1.5 per cattle-trading season.[13]
In Abilene, supposedly one of the wildest of the cow towns, "nobody was killed in 1869 or 1870. In fact, nobody was killed until the advent of officers of the law, employed to prevent killings."[14] Only two towns, Ellsworth in 1873 and Dodge City in 1876, ever had 5 killings in any one year.[15] Frank Prassel states in his book subtitled A Legacy of Law and Order, that "if any conclusion can be drawn from recent crime statistics, it must be that this last frontier left no significant heritage of offenses against the person, relative to other sections of the country."[16]
https://mises.org/library/not-so-wild-wild-west
"Before turning to specific examples of anarchocapitalistic institutions in the American West, it is useful to examine the legendary characterization of the "wild, wild West." The potential for chaos is a major objection to trust in the market for enforcement of rights, and many histories of the West seem to substantiate this argument. These histories describe the era and area as characterized by gunfights, horse-thievery, and general disrespect for basic human rights.
The taste for the dramatic in literature and other entertainment forms has led to concentration on the seeming disparity between the Westerners' desire for order and the prevailing disorder. If the Hollywood image of the West were not enough to taint our view, scholars of violence have contributed with quotes such as the following: "We can report with some assurance that compared to frontier days there has been a significant decrease in crimes of violence in the United States."[11]
Recently, however, more careful examinations of the conditions that existed cause one to doubt the accuracy of this perception. In his book, Frontier Violence: Another Look, W. Eugene Hollon stated that he believed "that the Western frontier was a far more civilized, more peaceful, and safer place than American society is today."[12] The legend of the "wild, wild West" lives on despite Robert Dykstra's finding that in five of the major cattle towns (Abilene, Ellsworth, Wichita, Dodge City, and Caldwell) for the years from 1870 to 1885, only 45 homicides were reported — an average of 1.5 per cattle-trading season.[13]
In Abilene, supposedly one of the wildest of the cow towns, "nobody was killed in 1869 or 1870. In fact, nobody was killed until the advent of officers of the law, employed to prevent killings."[14] Only two towns, Ellsworth in 1873 and Dodge City in 1876, ever had 5 killings in any one year.[15] Frank Prassel states in his book subtitled A Legacy of Law and Order, that "if any conclusion can be drawn from recent crime statistics, it must be that this last frontier left no significant heritage of offenses against the person, relative to other sections of the country."[16]
https://mises.org/library/not-so-wild-wild-west
Here is their website. It says they don't pay and you have to commit to 6 months.
http://thelionsofrojava.com/index.php/join/
no way then...if it was like $250,000 tax free, plus food and stuff....maybe...maybe two years...come back and be debt free, write a book about the experience...coast through the rest of life
Lets arm everyone and let them figure it out when a shooting happens? Is this really your answer?
My comments about the theater are correct. It would be mass hysteria and more lives would have been lost.
Buddy, I could have 18 felonies right now, and I could make three or four calls and have a gun by tonight if I wanted. You are never going to stop people from having guns if they want one.
When you have more guns than people in this country, I have little doubt that you can easily get your hands on one. That's kind of my point. That there are far too many guns.
This is so incorrect. You identify threat and shoot. It's not like the CCW civilian has an ar15 in his pocket. It would bea 9 mm with 10 rounds to shoot. And I guarantee you there would be less blood shed. It takes me 5 secs to pull gun get bullet in chamber and shoot. Hope I never have to use it but like a Boy Scout be prepared.
And how do you stop it? By creating a black market and causing even more crime and death?
Edit: How about imprisonment, because it's not like our prison aren't already overflowing with non-violent criminals.
Darkies, and their slightly lighter skinned cousins. People won't admit it but in the extreme fringe of the pro gun movement their is a crossover with white supremacist groups. One or two guns for any individual is fine. A hunting rifle or shotgun, and a hand gun is all any American should need. The freaks with double digit assault rifles are just itching to shoot another human. The rational gun owner fears the day they may be forced to use a gun to defend themselves.
For me it is a 1 gun situation like the one in Norway. Picking off kids like ducks in a pond and no one can stop it.
You don't think they are really "closing" 200+ Walmart stores do you?
