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Never said the money wasn't there......I think it would be more of a Midwest value proposition where they wouldn't just throw money at the "problem." Unless season ticket sales, donations plummeted etc.....then maybe once you get a couple years out but not at $21M. Or a very large donor stepped in and paid it. I just don't see it happening.
Kirk will not get bought out, he will decide when he leaves, and he has earned that (regardless of what many would say). You brought up the appetite of the university, and 14-21 million with the current structuring of the TV contract would not be a big deal is the point.
 
Kirk will not get bought out, he will decide when he leaves, and he has earned that (regardless of what many would say). You brought up the appetite of the university, and 14-21 million with the current structuring of the TV contract would not be a big deal is the point.
Well, no he hasn't earned that and few ever have......so he goes 7-5 the next two to three years and there's $14-21M left on his buyout. He's stays or is fired?
 
Well, no he hasn't earned that and few ever have......so he goes 7-5 the next two to three years and there's $14-21M left on his buyout. He's stays or is fired?
He has absolutely earned that, and it won't get to that. he will leave on his own merit. Also, it is nearly laughable projecting anything below 8 wins next year.
 
He has absolutely earned that, and it won't get to that. he will leave on his own merit. Also, it is nearly laughable projecting anything below 8 wins next year.
So you won't answer.....got it. I'm also not projecting they will have less than 8 wins. No he hasn't earned it. And I'm not sure he'd leave on his own merit just like I don't think BF would have left on his own without first securing another job and if he couldn't do that, he would have been back
 
So you won't answer.....got it. I'm also not projecting they will have less than 8 wins. No he hasn't earned it. And I'm not sure he'd leave on his own merit just like I don't think BF would have left on his own without first securing another job and if he couldn't do that, he would have been back
Won't answer what, If he will get fired? It won't come to that, just as it was with Fry, even after he expressed interest in coaching in the 2002 season for Baylor. The question isn't worth answering, but to make the statement that the university doesn't have the appetite is wrong based on the income merely from the TV deal kicking off in 2024 after a 7 million dollar surplus without that giant tv money.
 
Kirk will not get bought out, he will decide when he leaves, and he has earned that (regardless of what many would say). You brought up the appetite of the university, and 14-21 million with the current structuring of the TV contract would not be a big deal is the point.
I absolutely hate this thought process.

Hypothetical: If Kirk goes sayyyyy 6-6, then 5-7, followed by 4-8 over the next three seasons, he absolutely should be pushed out.

He hasn’t earned the right to just keep on keepin’ on….No way.
 
I absolutely hate this thought process.

Hypothetical: If Kirk goes sayyyyy 6-6, then 5-7, followed by 4-8 over the next three seasons, he absolutely should be pushed out.

He hasn’t earned the right to just keep on keepin’ on….No way.
Barta made this decision for the program, I don't think it will take this, and you can see the beginning of the end when he had to move on from the firing of Brian.
 
Won't answer what, If he will get fired? It won't come to that, just as it was with Fry, even after he expressed interest in coaching in the 2002 season for Baylor. The question isn't worth answering, but to make the statement that the university doesn't have the appetite is wrong based on the income merely from the TV deal kicking off in 2024 after a 7 million dollar surplus without that giant tv money.
I've already said that income/money isn't the issue.....it's VALUING money that would be an issue. They still might do it but it would take a couple/few rough seasons. You talked out both sides of your mouth on it
 
I've already said that income/money isn't the issue.....it's VALUING money that would be an issue. They still might do it but it would take a couple/few rough seasons. You talked out both sides of your mouth on it
Bro, one more time, you can literally look at the first time you commented. I literally said it was 35 million for a buyout, and I would hope the AD would not have that as the key issue as to why not to move on.

You followed it up by saying, appetite, you have zero idea what the finances are of the athletic department. Firing Ferentz, and having the gumption to do it are two very different topics.
 
Financially, they may be ABLE to fire KF at some point and absorb the cost. Their WANTING to do that (their "appetite" for it) is an entirely different conversation, IMO.

I just don't anticipate KF ever being fired, though. Not unless he starts delivering 4-8 type seasons, then maybe it starts to become a realistic topic.
 
Bro, one more time, you can literally look at the first time you commented. I literally said it was 35 million for a buyout, and I would hope the AD would not have that as the key issue as to why not to move on.

You followed it up by saying, appetite, you have zero idea what the finances are of the athletic department. Firing Ferentz, and having the gumption to do it are two very different topics.
There's plenty of reporting on the finances

You: won't let him rack up 7 win seasons and keep his job
Also You: Kirk will not get bought out, he will decide when he leaves, and he has earned that

Gotta be one of the other.....
 
Financially, they may be ABLE to fire KF at some point and absorb the cost. Their WANTING to do that (their "appetite" for it) is an entirely different conversation, IMO.

I just don't anticipate KF ever being fired, though. Not unless he starts delivering 4-8 type seasons, then maybe it starts to become a realistic topic.
Correct.
 
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Financially, they may be ABLE to fire KF at some point and absorb the cost. Their WANTING to do that (their "appetite" for it) is an entirely different conversation, IMO.

I just don't anticipate KF ever being fired, though. Not unless he starts delivering 4-8 type seasons, then maybe it starts to become a realistic topic.
100%, I don't think he will either (unless some really bad seasons take place like you said)
 
There's plenty of reporting on the finances

You: won't let him rack up 7 win seasons and keep his job
Also You: Kirk will not get bought out, he will decide when he leaves, and he has earned that

Gotta be one of the other.....
Point #1: so that makes zero sense with your "thrifty" comment

Point #2: He will be asked to leave, he will not be fired like Chryst. He has earned that. Do you feel all warm and fuzzy.
 
Point #1: so that makes zero sense with your "thrifty" comment

Point #2: He will be asked to leave, he will not be fired like Chryst. He has earned that. Do you feel all warm and fuzzy.
Haha.....ok, man. HOLY ****

deandre jordan wtf GIF
 
I don't think his contract will ever be an issue. They had a 7 million dollar surplus this year, and next year is when the massive TV deal really kicks in.

Saw that Neb brought in a record (for them) 204 million in 2023.
They had big donations for football that resulted in 50 million surplus for FB program. Overall surplus was like Iowa but we had been ahead in revenues in past.
 
Kirk will not get bought out, he will decide when he leaves, and he has earned that (regardless of what many would say). You brought up the appetite of the university, and 14-21 million with the current structuring of the TV contract would not be a big deal is the point.
KF will try to stay as long as possible for
his staff, including SIL being one of them. But I’m sure it will come down to a negotiation between KF and BG when he leaves. If he is struggling in the W/L column then he will be asked to resign with a buyout. If he is winning 8 to 10 games a year, he will want to stay on and coach many more years but he needs to turn over the reigns to someone younger sooner, rather than later.
 
I’ve heard this a few places and makes zero sense. If true what can we do? I mean seriously it’s negligent.
He is another yes man coach that has shown nothing but hindering our offense.
They talk about fundamentals before scheme and routes… isn’t catching an actual football a f’n fundamental????
Honestly, parts of the football program have been run negligently for over a decade now. Our only hope is Beth in this regard. It's obvious that fans viewpoints are only a small part of the concern. Yes, KF has had that kind of leeway under GB.

KF does some things extremely well. Caring about offense or building a strong offensive staff aren't among those things.
 
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Kirk will not get bought out, he will decide when he leaves, and he has earned that (regardless of what many would say). You brought up the appetite of the university, and 14-21 million with the current structuring of the TV contract would not be a big deal is the point.

I'm curious. When did you become the final arbiter of this? Many would disagree.
 
The one thing I've always wondered with Bud is he was hired in Feb 2023 and makes $325k a year while Philbin was hired in May 2023 and made $266k Paul Chryst was also May 2023 and made $100k last year.
So Bud was hired before both of them and also makes more money. I do wonder did KF reach out to either of them before Bud, did he really like Bud over both of them for that position or did he not even think of either.
 
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