Just how evil do you have to be to bomb a children's hospital?
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Do you believe everything he tells you?
Putin is a bully. Bullies prey on the weak.
I believe Putin when Putin says Biden is predictable, and when he says Trump is unpredictable. Don't you?
Putin’s gotta be insanely jealous of Obama’s PR team: murder a bunch of Pakistani civilians two days after being sworn in and win a Nobel Peace Prize.
Sad thing is Russia v. Ukraine could (and should) have been avoided.
Neocons can’t make their billions when there’s peace.
Sad thing is Russia v. Ukraine could (and should) have been avoided.
Neocons can’t make their billions when there’s peace.
Soyou support voter ID to insure fair and accurate elections for citizens. Loke the vast majority of the rest of the world. Can we agree that is reasonable and should be supported by democrats?
do you have evidence we don't already have fair and accurate elections?
Lol peace meaning bending to Putin's every demand and will. Trump colludes with Russia to interfere with U.S. elections, speaks highly of Putin's "strong leadership" and generally kisses Putin's ass every chance he gets. When will you guys wake the **** up?
Agreed, I fully support fair and accurate elections. Of course, there are many ways to show ID. In Colorado for example both Republicans and Democrats support the mail-in voting system because there are checks related to ID. Works great.
I also believe every vote should count like the vast majority of the rest of the world, so the popular vote should elect the president. Can we agree that’s reasonable and should be supported by all?
Syria is where ISIS started up under Obama’s watch. Trump eliminated ISIS or severely limited them after Obama failed to act. Syria was and is a mess due to a terrible leader in Al Assad who used chemical weapons on his own people that Obama didn’t act on in taking him out as leader of Syria. This allowed Russia to come in and oppose the US going in and being there as part of their campaign against ISIS as they left Iraq to fall back into Syria once the US destroyed ISIS in Iraq. All that happened due to Obama’s failure to act and allow US troops to prevent ISIS from gaining strength and growing and killing in such inhumane and grotesque ways. You can’t say Trump and Syria without first saying Obama failed to act and created the mess that is in Syria. Al Assad should have been taken out for killing his own people with chemical weapons. Same as Hussein in Iraq for killing Iraqi Kurds with chemical weapons. There is a special place in hell for leaders of countries that use chemical weapons against their own people.
War is hell but there are rules of engagement. Bombing a children’s hospital is certainly breaking those rules. Putin should be tried for war crimes but that won’t happen, unfortunately.
Lol
He still believes in Russian interference.
What exactly is the cost of peace and no war you hate so much?
This is factually incorrect.
No, because Trump is entirely predictable. He will always bend the knee to Vlad. What planet are you living on? Trump is a Putin stooge. He's lying to you and you're eating it up.
What is this hell thing that you guys are talking about? Is that the opposite of the sky fairy we love to bash on here?
shouldn’t we want to wish something bad on Putin?
Holy crap. Trump eliminated ISIS!?! Obama should have got us in a war with Syria?!? Just fantasy land revisionist nonsense.
How did Trump collude with Russia? I've heard that many times here, but I've never really seen any evidence of that. Can you provide some? If Trump did collude with Russia, what was the cost? Was it over $100B? If Trump did collude with Russia, what did Putin gain from it? These questions are genuine. I would like to have some real basis to believe the narrative.
You mean like when people from his campaign - jr, Jared and manafort met with Russian officials with ties to Putin…at Trump tower?
- Contacts Between Trump Campaign and Russia:
- The Mueller Report documented numerous contacts between Trump campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government. These contacts included meetings, emails, and other forms of communication.
- Some of the notable contacts involved meetings with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak and the infamous Trump Tower meeting in June 2016, where Trump campaign officials met with a Russian lawyer promising damaging information on Hillary Clinton【source】【source】.
- Russian Interference:
- The report confirmed that the Russian government engaged in a comprehensive effort to interfere in the 2016 election, primarily through hacking and social media campaigns aimed at influencing public opinion and damaging Clinton’s candidacy.
- Russian entities, including the Internet Research Agency (IRA), carried out extensive social media operations to influence voters and sow discord【source】【source】.
- The Senate Intelligence Committee, in its bipartisan investigation, released a report that corroborated many of Mueller's findings and provided additional details about the extent of Russian interference and contacts with the Trump campaign.
- The report highlighted concerning connections between Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and individuals linked to Russian intelligence. Manafort shared internal campaign polling data with a Russian associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, who was assessed to have connections to Russian intelligence【source】【source】.
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Northern or Coffland14 will post something in a day or two saying it was a false flag, or the fault of Zelensky for letting kids get sick during a war and clustering them in such a large target like a hospital.
Mueller report summary released, showing no proof Trump team conspired with Russia
Attorney General William Barr on Sunday released the "principal conclusions" of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's completed Russia probe in a four-page letter to Capitol Hill lawmakers, which stated definitively that Mueller found no evidence that Trump's team had conspired with Russia.
www.foxnews.com
LOL. Again, you make no sense.Mueller report summary released, showing no proof Trump team conspired with Russia
Attorney General William Barr on Sunday released the "principal conclusions" of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's completed Russia probe in a four-page letter to Capitol Hill lawmakers, which stated definitively that Mueller found no evidence that Trump's team had conspired with Russia.www.foxnews.com
Bull . . . it wasn't like he pulled out of Crimea or eastern Ukraine when Trump was president.
The fact that he expanded the war when Biden was in office proves nothing.
I'm guessing you also think that Hitler never invaded Europe while Herbert Hoover was president.
No, you can't see through your blue tinted glasses. Biden told Putin, and the American public, that he was OK with a minor incursion into Ukraine.
"I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do."~ Joe Biden, 1/20/2022
Not sure where you see Biden saying he’s okay if russia went in to Ukraine. He’s talking about the US having to decide what to do if Russia did invade, particularly if it was less than a full-scale invasion.
What was the collusion? A meeting? Biden had multiple calls with Putin just before he issued the statement I quoted. What was the actual quid pro quo that Trump had with Putin. I'm truly interested.
The same FBI and intelligence that said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation?
The same FBI that bought into the Steele dossier that proved later to be bought by Hillary's campaign?
How can people still believe the BS and keep spouting it and defending it?
There were numerous meetings between Trump campaign officials and Russian contacts. We know that manafort shared polling data with them.
If that’s not collusion you’re going to need to provide a definition.
It’s been firmly established that our intel agencies and the senate intel committee that Russia interfered in the ‘16 election. That’s not in question.
Let me help you - "a small incursion".
I won't be answering any ore questions like that.
I believe when Putin says that Trump is unpredictable, he means easily manipulated.
It's not a question?
How did they interfere? Post something on Facebook? How many votes did Trump get based on the interference? How many did Hillary not get? If it's not a question, you should be able to answer it.
Oh, and what did Russia get in return? Permission to invade Ukraine? Some other national favors? What?
No wonder you buy into the bullshit so fully - you can't distiguish between publicly acknowledged meetings to discuss world matters between two leaders from clandestine meetings with a political candidate.
Right. Do tell how Putin has manipulated Trump, or will manipulate Trump in the future?
And if you believe Putin on that, I guess you have to believe Putin when he says he wants Biden to win, right?
And you can't answer the question. What was the quid pro quo?
You will believe anything the far right propaganda tells you.
Got Trump to believe him rather than his own advisors, for one thing.
