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Juwan Howard in at Michigan

Don't know anything about him as a coach but the former pros rarely work out in college. If it works it could be huge though. I think Yaklich is who I would have went with. he turned that program completely around defensively the last couple years and he is a good recruiter.
 
Not good he will GET PLAYERS.......... Just look at Memphis!

Not saying he won't. But one thing Penny Hardaway had going for him was he was coaching HS and AAU ball for a few years and his AAU team was loaded with talent from the local Memphis area including one of if not the top guy in next years class.

No clue if he's a good hire but he has big shoes to fill with Beilen who I thought was the best and maybe most likeable coach in the conference. Lastly seeing a Fab 5 guy get a head coaching job makes me feel old.
 
Former college stars with an NBA history have a HUGE advantage when it comes to landing an 18 year old. They will be impressed by the stories of glory days and picturing him getting them there. 18 year old boys are irrational creatures at their core and getting to play for a guy who was a big time college star AND an NBAer carries weight.
I don't know if he can coach a lick, but I wouldn't bet against his ability to bring in high level recruits.
 
Howard will make it easy to recruit top players. To be successful, he will need to hire some top assistants with coaching experience. both on and off the court. No head coaching experience and only an assistant for Miami Heat in the pros, so his resume as a coach is pretty thin.
 
Howard will make it easy to recruit top players. To be successful, he will need to hire some top assistants with coaching experience. both on and off the court. No head coaching experience and only an assistant for Miami Heat in the pros, so his resume as a coach is pretty thin.
Assistants with the Xs and Os experience will be critical.

As recruiting is such a big part of the job, probably the most important thing, I can't really criticize the choice.

If BJ Armstrong had any interest at all in coaching Iowa I would at least want him considered for the same reasons.
 
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Many want him to bring back the 'culture' to UM. Not sure he's that type of guy anymore, but that type of culture wouldn't be good for UM or the B1G. That would be the opposite end of the spectrum compared to Beilein.
 
John B will be hard to replace as a coach.....but Howard might get it done. I had serious doubts about Fred H going to Ames with no coaching experience but he did pretty well.

Just hard to imagine anyone coaching a team up like Beilien.......just consistently high level results.
 
Many want him to bring back the 'culture' to UM. Not sure he's that type of guy anymore, but that type of culture wouldn't be good for UM or the B1G. That would be the opposite end of the spectrum compared to Beilein.

I assume you're talking about the culture that brought shame upon him, his teammates, their athletic program and the entire institution and essentially erased every win, accolade and achievement that team had during his time there as a player, correct? Yes, that would not be good long-term for Michigan's basketball success.
 
Assistants with the Xs and Os experience will be critical.

As recruiting is such a big part of the job, probably the most important thing, I can't really criticize the choice.

If BJ Armstrong had any interest at all in coaching Iowa I would at least want him considered for the same reasons.



How soon before we get to the point where the kids being recruited have no idea who BJ is (crap I'm old)? I totally get your point, and saying you played with the best ever certainly leaves an impression, but just saying.
 
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Not saying he won't. But one thing Penny Hardaway had going for him was he was coaching HS and AAU ball for a few years and his AAU team was loaded with talent from the local Memphis area including one of if not the top guy in next years class.

No clue if he's a good hire but he has big shoes to fill with Beilen who I thought was the best and maybe most likeable coach in the conference. Lastly seeing a Fab 5 guy get a head coaching job makes me feel old.

One of the other things Hardaway has going for him is Memphis’ penchant for giving large sums of money to highly ranked recruits.
 
Not so sure he is a great hire. I think he will be a very good recruiter and not so good coaching Michigan to wins. I just have never been impressed with Howard. JMO
 
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Wow. Going from Belein to Howard is shocking. A wealth of experience to almost none, and only as an assistant in the NBA. I am really curious to see how this works for them...
 
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Anyone that has ever coached with or played for Howard raves about his coaching abilities, his work ethic, and his ability to build relationships. He has done a good job developing big guys in Miami and is supposedly a very good defensive coach. It might take him a few years to adjust, but I think he will ultimately be a very good coach and a very good recruiter. He’s not likely to be as good a coach as Beilein, but no one else Michigan could have hired is either.
 
Probably a good hire, with at least some risk (there is always some risk). Basketball in college is more and more about acquiring talent, and less and less about player development and X's and O's. By the time his recruits get to Michigan, they will be ready to go.
 
Probably a good hire, with at least some risk (there is always some risk). Basketball in college is more and more about acquiring talent, and less and less about player development and X's and O's. By the time his recruits get to Michigan, they will be ready to go.
This is where my thoughts are as well. Getting talent is a significantly more important part of the equation in building a team for a deep tourney run.
It doesn't gaurantee it of course, but the odds are more favorable if your program is routinely getting top 25 players.
 
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I thought the Fab 5 were persona non grata at Ann Arbor. Quite the change from Beilein.
 
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Not so sure he is a great hire. I think he will be a very good recruiter and not so good coaching Michigan to wins. I just have never been impressed with Howard. JMO
And so why weren’t you impressed with him? All American? Just curious
 
He and a buddy of his sat directly behind us at Wrigley for Clemens/Wood tilt in '02 or '03? Same game He Sop Choi hit his head on infield around third base. Scott Padgett was down our row with his mom, kind of surreal as they both ended up playing for Houston in the next season or two as I recall.

Anyway, he was a really nice guy and that's all I know about him.

You're welcome.
 
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How soon before we get to the point where the kids being recruited have no idea who BJ is (crap I'm old)? I totally get your point, and saying you played with the best ever certainly leaves an impression, but just saying.

We are so already there

This year's HS Graduates were all born after BJ retired from the NBA. BJ has his 30 year Iowa reunion this year.

Find your HS graduation year, subtract 30 years then check out that Iowa roster. You think any of those guys would've swayed where you went to college.
 
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Wow. Going from Belein to Howard is shocking. A wealth of experience to almost none, and only as an assistant in the NBA. I am really curious to see how this works for them...
He was interviewed for the Timberwolves head coaching position a couple weeks ago, so he has a good reputation in the NBA.
 
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He was interviewed for the Timberwolves head coaching position a couple weeks ago, so he has a good reputation in the NBA.
Still, he may have a good reputation but he lacks any D1 coaching experience. Not saying he won't be successful, it just seems like a huge risk on MI's part.
 
He could be really damn good, and if he gets compared to Beilein, people will probably be disappointed. Are people forgetting what the guy that was there two weeks ago did? Their last coach was incredible.

Bring the culture back? What exactly is wrong with the current culture?

Totally agree. Another thing I find odd is people talking about how being a former NBA guy, from Chicago, an alum etc that he could be bringing in a lot of talent. Thing is Beilen has already been bringing in some top talent lately. Has had multiple guys drafted and more than one guy leaving this year early for the draft including freshman of the year Brazdekies (sp?). Not saying Howard won't be good but I thought Beilen was the best coach in the conference and has set the bar pretty high. I thought whoever they were bringing in would be a step down from Beilen. Question is how big of a step and with Howard a lot of unknowns with him never coaching in college.

2 other cases like him that come to mind coaching alma mater with former NBA guys are Chris Mullin at St Johns who resigned this spring with just ok results and Ewing at Georgetown who so far is an unknown after taking over 2 years ago and inheriting a bad roster.
 
Still, he may have a good reputation but he lacks any D1 coaching experience. Not saying he won't be successful, it just seems like a huge risk on MI's part.

Fred Hoiberg had zero experience before the ISU job ... worked out (while he was there). Clyde Drexler had zero experience before Houston job .. was a disaster. This will be interesting.
 
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Fred Hoiberg had zero experience before the ISU job ... worked out (while he was there). Clyde Drexler had zero experience before Houston job .. was a disaster. This will be interesting.
I wonder what the success rate is for former players who had no D1 coaching experience coming back as head coach of their alma mater. I would think that Hoiberg is more the exception than the rule.
 
Fred Hoiberg had zero experience before the ISU job ... worked out (while he was there). Clyde Drexler had zero experience before Houston job .. was a disaster. This will be interesting.

Hoiberg really is the exception to the rule for this. I've also found the culture arguments to be odd. The fallout from the Fab 5/Chris Webber stuff put Michigan in basketball purgatory for a decade, and it took Beilein to dig them out. I wasn't aware that Michigan hoops needed a culture overhaul.

He might well turn out to be a good coach, only time will tell. But Michigan is a top 10 program currently, there wasn't a high-profile, proven coach they could have gotten?
 
I wonder what the success rate is for former players who had no D1 coaching experience coming back as head coach of their alma mater. I would think that Hoiberg is more the exception than the rule.

As someone mentioned earlier, add Mullin (St. John's) and Ewing (Georgetown) in the mix as well. Probably, a mix of results there. Some of what they are looking for is a little flash/excitement. Howard is a well-respected NBA assistant (as was Ewing). It will be interesting to see who he hires as assistants.
 
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Hoiberg really is the exception to the rule for this. I've also found the culture arguments to be odd. The fallout from the Fab 5/Chris Webber stuff put Michigan in basketball purgatory for a decade, and it took Beilein to dig them out. I wasn't aware that Michigan hoops needed a culture overhaul.

He might well turn out to be a good coach, only time will tell. But Michigan is a top 10 program currently, there wasn't a high-profile, proven coach they could have gotten?

The other coach they had interviewed recently was Ed Cooley (Providence). He ended up staying put and getting a raise. Tough timing for getting a higher profile coach ... most of the movement in coaching had already happened. Pitino was out there. :)
 
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