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*****Iowa vs Michigan Game Thread*****

From that replay, I don't think you can tell whether there is foul or not on Pryce's shot. They didn't seem to have any cameras other than the 1/2 court camera which is a long way from the play.
 
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They are never calling a foul there against the home team in the Big Ten. This game was house money. 1-1, 7-2 is kind of what we thought it would be.

There’s a lot of weaknesses on this team that ranked teams will easily exploit (starting next week), but there’s a lot of heart and character. There have been more talented Fran teams that have fallen behind big on the road like that and just let themselves get thrashed.
 
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Michigan player walking off like he’s looking or waiting for the flag to be thrown.
That's a foul all game. You can't touch a shooters' elbow or body him out of bounds. The refs didn't want to decide the game. That's how it goes.
 
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The second half fight, and the shot, fall just short.

Between struggling on the glass and at the stripe, missing one of the team's best defenders and facing a top team in the Big Ten, Iowa fell by just two points after a late Pryce Sandfort heave.

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This team is shooting 66% from the free throw line this season. Excluding Payton and Dix, the rest of the team is shooting just 57%. We would be ranked 309th out of 364 on team FT%
That's straight up suckage.

Wasn't there a point in time - not entirely too long ago - that the Hawks used to average more made FTs than the their opponents even attempted?
 
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Just re-watched it, sorry but there was not a blatant foul on Pryce (IMHO) - just a really terrible off balance 'chuck'.

How was Fran not able to draw up a plan to either get it to Payton OR Josh!?!?! Were both these guys double teamed?!
Sorry, but I don't care if the entire Michigan squad - bench included - is on Dix like white on rice for that final 1.5 seconds, I still want him getting that last shot instead of either of the Sandfort brothers. 9.75 times out of 10.


How Fran doesn't run staggered screens to get JD open enough to catch and shoot - no matter where on the floor he is at the time - on that last possession is poor coaching. jmho.
 
Sorry, but I don't care if the entire Michigan squad - bench included - is on Dix like white on rice for that final 1.5 seconds, I still want him getting that last shot instead of either of the Sandfort brothers. 9.75 times out of 10.


How Fran doesn't run staggered screens to get JD open enough to catch and shoot - no matter where on the floor he is at the time - on that last possession is poor coaching. jmho.
Agree 100%
 
Here is the final play. None of the iowa players reacted like there should have been a foul so assuming it was clean.

Watched it 5 times and it's a foul. The defender thinks he's going to shoot it immediately and times his jump wrong, so he panics and keeps drifting into Pryce's body after landing. When the Michigan player walks away he isn't celebrating with any confidence like he made a great play, all you can see on his face is relief that they didn't call it.
 
Watched it 5 times and it's a foul. The defender thinks he's going to shoot it immediately and times his jump wrong, so he panics and keeps drifting into Pryce's body after landing. When the Michigan player walks away he isn't celebrating with any confidence like he made a great play, all you can see on his face is relief that they didn't call it.
it's close for sure, the ball was actually was on target to go in....
 
That's a foul all game. You can't touch a shooters' elbow or body him out of bounds. The refs didn't want to decide the game. That's how it goes.
I understand refs dont want to call a foul at the end of the game - although they HAVE against us (@ Rutgers in 2022) - but at what point do we have to draw a line?

Any more contact and it would have been a full on tackle. If the refs aren't going to call obvious shooting fouls at the end of the game, then why are they even on the court? The refs should just head back to the locker rooms when its under 10 seconds.
 
That's straight up suckage.

Wasn't there a point in time - not entirely too long ago - that the Hawks used to average more made FTs than the their opponents even attempted?
How many of those free throws are in non conf against crap teams, would be curious of the actual big ten only numbers
 
Watched it 5 times and it's a foul. The defender thinks he's going to shoot it immediately and times his jump wrong, so he panics and keeps drifting into Pryce's body after landing. When the Michigan player walks away he isn't celebrating with any confidence like he made a great play, all you can see on his face is relief that they didn't call it.
That’s what I saw.
 
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I said we got no help that isn't blame and I have a thread already discussing free throws. Thanks
So no one can mention free throws outside of your other thread? Alrighty then....


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Christmas party, so I had to watch the game late. Foul trouble made it remarkable that Iowa was in the game at halftime. Freeman continues to be careless in giving up fouls. The bench played very well. Thelwell, Pryce and Mulvey kept us in the game, along with the steady play of Dix, who still doesn't get full credit for all he does. With Freeman out, Josh played a bigger role on the boards and defended one of MI's bigs much of the game. Iowa played a really clean game (5 turnovers to 16 for MI, I think). The difference on the boards is deceptive because of the TOs. Iowa actually had more offensive boards the MI. We just needed to shoot better and get more points near the basket.

In the end, free throw shooting killed Iowa. Freeman, in particular, needs to be much better, since he will get to the line a lot. It is ridiculous that a foul wasn't called on the final play. The foul was very clear, and really not debatable. Pryce should have had 3 free throws to either win the game or send it into OT. Need to get healthy for ISU, and shoot a LOT of FTs, after wind sprints. Is there a coach who can teach Dembele to dunk?
 
Here is the final play. None of the iowa players reacted like there should have been a foul so assuming it was clean.


Oddly enough, the Michigan player looked awfully sheepish like he knew he fouled and was just lucky that the zebras wouldn't call a foul on the last shot. They would have if the situation was reversed.
 
Oddly enough, the Michigan player looked awfully sheepish like he knew he fouled and was just lucky that the zebras wouldn't call a foul on the last shot. They would have if the situation was reversed.
Yep you can see at least some contact near the waist. There was no reach by the MI player, but that is definitely a foul. If the game is not in Ann Arbor, Pryce is shooting 3.
 
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