At +750 behind Tshiebwe (+105) of Kentucky, Kofi(+400) and Davis(+600) The B1G has 3 of the top 4 players in the country. Here's to Keegan kicking ass the rest of the way and carrying the Hawks to a great finish starting tonight.
Keegan at 4th best odds to win NPOY
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in your opinion, has Kofi taken over the lead for B1G POY?
Ie, are the top 3 right now:
1. Kofi, Illinois
2. Davis, Wisconsin
3, Keegan, IOWA
IMO, it's been his to lose since the year began just like Luka last year. I don't know that they're so far apart that any one of those 3 couldn't win it depending on what happens the rest of the year. I think it might just depend on how the 3 teams finish.
Clearly the NPOY has a lot to do with where the team is performing. If Luka had the same kind of season last year but Iowa finished in the bottom third of the league then he's not getting the award. There's a minimum threshold for team performance.
I'd say Kofi has the best combo of 1. buzz from prior year's performance 2. individual stats 3. team performance. Davis gets a slight nod over Keegan due to wisky higher in the standings.
I'd say Kofi has the best combo of 1. buzz from prior year's performance 2. individual stats 3. team performance. Davis gets a slight nod over Keegan due to wisky higher in the standings.
Keegan has better stats all around. He's the superior player by almost any metric. Even Davis has had terrible games, I think he only scored 4 in one game, Keegan has none of those. He's the most consistent, best overall player in the big ten. If Iowa wins out the season and has an impressive showing in the big ten tournament it would be criminal if he didn't at least win big ten player of the year. Cock-burn doesn't deserve it, he's incredibly one dimensional, at least Luka could shoot. Murray, Davis, and probably Ivey are all better candidates in my eyes.
Keegan, at this stage, is the POY based on performance. His basketball skills are so far beyond Kofi's that there is simply no comparison. Davis is a versatile player, but if he's rated above Keegan it's only because Wisky is higher in the standings than Iowa, which is a debatable criterion.
Kofi, as I've said before, isn't even a basketball player, so how the hell he can be a POY candidate escapes me. He's a giant who lives in the lane and scores from as far out as five feet on rare occasions. He travels, he carries the ball, and if the rules were enforced, he'd foul out in five minutes every game. Now if we're talking rugby POY, Kofi wins easily. As you may be able to tell, I have no respect for his game whatsoever. Kofi couldn't carry Luka's shoes and shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath.
Kofi, as I've said before, isn't even a basketball player, so how the hell he can be a POY candidate escapes me. He's a giant who lives in the lane and scores from as far out as five feet on rare occasions. He travels, he carries the ball, and if the rules were enforced, he'd foul out in five minutes every game. Now if we're talking rugby POY, Kofi wins easily. As you may be able to tell, I have no respect for his game whatsoever. Kofi couldn't carry Luka's shoes and shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath.
Keegan probably should win it, but I don’t see it happening. Could you imagine Iowa with the POY 2 years in a row?!? That would kill espins narrative.(just assuming espin still hates Iowa, I never actually watch that shit!)
Idk about POY, but the all-big ten first team on paper looks like the best 5 guy lineup I’ve seen in years.
Keegan’s bad games highly correlated to being locked away in Fran’s 2 Foul Jail…
The age-old question of "if you had to start a team with one guy, who do you take?" could apply. I think Kofi is the 3rd of the 3, as Keegan and Davis bring far more versatility.
Such a monumental play you don't even remember who it was against?
I'm 50 and was drinking at the time.... what do you want?
Correct. Sucks we couldn’t pull it out in 2 OT. That one might work against us come Selection Sunday. Hope we keep winning so it becomes a non factor.
If they’d call fouls in the paint Kofi would foul out of 75% of the games.
It'll depend on their respective teams NCAA tourney showing. Assuming all 3 play well it will come down to who makes a deep run.
That TV narrative of "X carrying his team to a deep run" is powerful.
How can a projected top 5 pick be under valued? Maybe under valued by crappy media talent ?
Eh, Kofi has excellent footwork. He’s a traditional old school banger center with a baby hook, which the 80’s kid in me can appreciate. He’s a good kid too.
Sure, he doesn’t rain 3’s like the rest of the basketball world nowadays after Steph changed the game. But by your methodology you would not consider Shaq a good basketball player. (He’s universally considered top 20 all time).
Balls he can't rebound he back tips. He gives Illinois so many extra chances that he doesn't get credit for.
It's a tough call to say who you would pick first for your team, it depends on what you value. I'm sure every Illini fan is going to say Kofi and Iowa fans will say Keegan.
I have intentionally not watched a KY game this year. Can Keegan get NPOY, even if Kofi or Davis get B1G POY? Would be a nice result.
Sure would be great if the Murray family would decide that Keegan could come back and lead Iowa to a regular season B1G championship with Kris. Keegan is as good as it gets.
One was B1G and National Player of the Year.
The other should be.
The other should be.
I'd love that but it's most likely not happening. Let's hope Kris comes back and elevates his game. The team could be salty next year as well.
I am aware, just dreaming and hoping that family ties and positive feelings for Iowa somehow make it possible.
Johnny Davis 3 for 19 tonight. First Team…yes. Player of the Year…no.
Definitely should not have been unanimous. WTF is wrong with the Iowa voter.
He was not the unanimous player of the year. He was the consensus player of the year. Media and Coaches’ selection.
I bet if Iowa had beat Wisconsin or at least not lost by 20, Keegan would have been conference poy
Davis won the award early in the season when he had that big game to beat Purdue the first time. The rest of the season didn’t matter. His stats in comparison to Keegan are trash.
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