I feel like Bull and Austin will always be part of the program and for good reasons!
Kemdawg
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And he was a great example of how the next evolution of the program should be.
Solid recruit from Pennsylvania out of a club we need to keep connections with.
Versatile "modern" style.
Tremendous strength and conditioning progress and understanding.
HIGH intelligence.
You're delusional. That's a great example of how poor leaders running poor programs and organizations think.
Delusional? Good grief you're insufferable sometimes.
We better hope Spencer doesn't retire from competition and want to get into coaching anytime soon... you know since apparently there's nothing we'd be able to do to keep him in the program.
Spooner being Spooner. It is what it is…
riiiiiight. Cuz that's what Carl is doing, right? running a "poor" program?
What are you talking about? Where did I even so much as give the impression that nothing can be done to keep people? Iowa has kept people and that will only continue--too often for my taste, for the record.
You said good organizations keep good people. They do. But they don't keep all the good people. Believing otherwise is delusional yet you keep doubling down. Thus...you're delusional.
Why I have to explain this, I don't know. But here we are, I guess.
Deangelo Vickers must think so, because even the great Cael Sanderson doesn't keep everyone. I guess he's just not creative enough. LOL
Again, you're the one projecting the "keep all of them" and "keep everyone" in this, no one else is. I don't want us to keep everyone. I want us to keep/hire the really good ones and a lot of people think MK is just that. Minnesota obviously does as well.
You gotta type it slower so Spooner can keep up.
I will remind you of the initial post, and your response:
To which I replied:
And it's still funny you cite PSU here when even they aren't able to keep everyone in the program. But Iowa can? Please...so ridiculous.
Per the Vickers theory, this should be the Iowa/HWC coaching/admin staff:
Tom Brands
Terry Brands
Ryan Morningstar
Bobby Telford
Brent Metcalf
Derek St. John
Kevin Dresser
Tony Ramos
Thomas Gilman
Bill Zadick
Tom Ryan
Doug Schwab
Barry Davis
Tony Ersland
Ty Eustace
Tony Cassioppi
Dan Dennis
Chad Beatty
Mike Kemerer
And probably a bunch more I didn't think to include. No excuse for these guys not being at Iowa. None. They should have just figured it out, you guys.
Tom Brands
Terry Brands
Ryan Morningstar
Bobby Telford
Brent Metcalf
Derek St. John
Kevin Dresser
Tony Ramos
Thomas Gilman
Bill Zadick
Tom Ryan
Doug Schwab
Barry Davis
Tony Ersland
Ty Eustace
Tony Cassioppi
Dan Dennis
Chad Beatty
Mike Kemerer
And probably a bunch more I didn't think to include. No excuse for these guys not being at Iowa. None. They should have just figured it out, you guys.
Heart felt congratulations thread for Michael Kemerer turns p!$$!ing contest between a few posters regarding how many good people can be kept and how good is good enough to be better than what the Hawkeyes currently have.
Classic cesspool.
Classic cesspool.
Thanks for doing the legwork to post these. Not surprisingly you don't see how clearly it proves my point. YOU are the only one saying "keep them all"! Dumbass.
Never have I said that. You said it at the beginning. My point is literally the opposite--you can't keep everyone.
Do I really need to link your own post for the 4th time? You said it very plainly--good organizations figure out how to keep good people.
Perhaps that's the disconnect--you don't think most of these are good people?
Seems like understandable wrestling talk to me. The Cesspool resides in Pennsylvania now.
What else do we have to talk about? Deangelo and I are providing free entertainment.
Jfc, you've accused me of saying that in nearly every post, when I never suggested anything close to that. Good grief dude.
Goodness. Do you not know how a message board works? It’s right there for everyone to see. I don’t know how you can keep acting like I’m making it up.
Probably my favorite Hawkeye match of recent memory other than Spencer's NCAA wins. Kemerer gets launched 10 feet in the air in the first few seconds but then he slowly and methodically starts to outwrestle Hall and by the end Hall has basically given up. You can hear Gibbons, no great fan of the program, grow in his respect of what MK accomplished that night.
He picked Mark Hall apart as that match went on. A thing of beauty to watch in person!
I was sitting right in front of Ironside and gave him the hardest high hive of my life after Kem won that match. That is the loudest I have ever heard Carver, even louder than when Ramos beat Oliver.
MK is a smart guy, and knows building a resume is essential to eventually landing one of the few great head coaching gigs. Would absolutely love to see him back at some point.
