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Kenneth Chesebro, alleged architect of the “fake electors” plot, has struck a plea deal with prosecutors in Fulton County, Georgia

I mean it. Democrats cry foul any time someone employs the same methods as them. It's just like I'm 2017 when Democrats protested trump winning certain states then crying when Republicans do it in the next presidential election. I'm tired of the blatant hypocrisy from both parties but the dems are 100x worse at this point.
Moving the goalposts I see.
 
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You could start by reading a history book before posting again?
Hell, I don’t have to read about it! I was with my dad that Election Day as he traveled Chicago’s southside voting all day. I think he voted 8 times that day. He took me with him into the voting booth. He wouldn’t let me mark the ballots though. It was first election!
 
You could start by reading a history book before posting again?
LOL he was raised by a social studies and history teacher extraordinaire. You would not want to try to compete with him on history.
 
As it looks Trump will certainly be guilty in this case the question that should be asked is how does this affect the ‘24 election? Will Trump serve jail time? Will Kemp pardon him? Will Republicans actually nominate him when primaries get here? Finally how is Biden losing to this guy in so many recent polls? I guess the same thing can be said about all the Republican challengers as well. Could the Presidency from 2025-29 be done on house arrest from Mara Lago?
 
I mean it. Democrats cry foul any time someone employs the same methods as them. It's just like I'm 2017 when Democrats protested trump winning certain states then crying when Republicans do it in the next presidential election. I'm tired of the blatant hypocrisy from both parties but the dems are 100x worse at this point.

Dumb de dumb de dumb de dumb.,,,,,
 
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As it looks Trump will certainly be guilty in this case the question that should be asked is how does this affect the ‘24 election? Will Trump serve jail time? Will Kemp pardon him? Will Republicans actually nominate him when primaries get here? Finally how is Biden losing to this guy in so many recent polls? I guess the same thing can be said about all the Republican challengers as well. Could the Presidency from 2025-29 be done on house arrest from Mara Lago?

You mean the polls paid for by Trump? Biden will smoke Trump next election.... Again
 
I mean it. Democrats cry foul any time someone employs the same methods as them. It's just like I'm 2017 when Democrats protested trump winning certain states then crying when Republicans do it in the next presidential election. I'm tired of the blatant hypocrisy from both parties but the dems are 100x worse at this point.
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LOL he was raised by a social studies and history teacher extraordinaire. You would not want to try to compete with him on history.
Raised by a teacher? That may explain some of the obvious problems. That's even worse (Statistically speaking) than getting raised by a priest if you know what I mean..
Scruddy: READ A HISTORY BOOK

Also Scruddy: HOW DARE YOUR HISTORY BOOKS SUGGEST BLACK PEOPLE WERE TREATED POORLY
Wtf are you even going on about?
 
The only punishment for Trump that will be effective, will be to disqualify him from running for office.
He isn't going to jail. No monetary fine will matter. He needs to be disqualified as a future potential elected official due to his past crimes.
 
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Is it legally possible for Trump to agree to a plea that includes “ I will not run for president if charges are dropped “ ?
 
The only punishment for Trump that will be effective, will be to disqualify him from running for office.
He isn't going to jail. No monetary fine will matter. He needs to be disqualified as a future potential elected official due to his past crimes.

I'd take that...he belongs in jail, but I'd take that
 
The only punishment for Trump that will be effective, will be to disqualify him from running for office.
He isn't going to jail. No monetary fine will matter. He needs to be disqualified as a future potential elected official due to his past crimes.
As much as I think trump shouldn't be eligible to be president there is no actual method to legally remove his name from the ballot with the exception of novel case law. The more the left leans into this charade the more his numbers increase. With kennedy currently going independent biden is going to be shedding votes like crazy (in addition to his terrible record driving away voters). Dangerous game the dems are playing..
 
The only punishment for Trump that will be effective, will be to disqualify him from running for office.
He isn't going to jail. No monetary fine will matter. He needs to be disqualified as a future potential elected official due to his past crimes.
I agree with this but the republicans that are afraid of their own will never go for it. The party is held hostage by the minority. From grover norquist to the tea party to the trumptards. The republican parties demise (which does hurt our country) can be tied to catering to the extremists in their party.
 
As it looks Trump will certainly be guilty in this case the question that should be asked is how does this affect the ‘24 election? Will Trump serve jail time? Will Kemp pardon him? Will Republicans actually nominate him when primaries get here? Finally how is Biden losing to this guy in so many recent polls? I guess the same thing can be said about all the Republican challengers as well. Could the Presidency from 2025-29 be done on house arrest from Mara Lago?
Biden is NOT losing to Trump in any legitimate poll, nor would he in an election.
 
I'd take that...he belongs in jail, but I'd take that
I wouldn't...if free he would need to do 1000 hours of community service in various cities, standing on street corners with a sign that says, "I'm a loser."
 
I'm SO glad I have him on ignore. I couldn't take it.

It's a razor's edge. There has to be some adversary conversation to trigger debate. Somehow, sometimes worthy things filter through. I actually left the Off Topic board at one point b/c I couldn't stand the nonsense. And that was before the internet conspiracy theory nutcases took over but in Limbaugh's heyday.
 
Democrats have also used alternate electors in the past. It's just (D)ifferent (as always) with these hypocrites.
 
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Is it legally possible for Trump to agree to a plea that includes “ I will not run for president if charges are dropped “ ?
It is definitely legal for Georgia to make a deal for Trump to agree to be taken off the ballot in Georgia. Essentially it would be Trump's choice to make a deal to accept a punishment different than the punishment prescribed by law. It's doubtful Trump would take such a deal. As far as agreeing to be taken off the ballot in other states, I'm not sure if that would be legally enforceable.
 
As it looks Trump will certainly be guilty in this case the question that should be asked is how does this affect the ‘24 election? Will Trump serve jail time? Will Kemp pardon him? Will Republicans actually nominate him when primaries get here? Finally how is Biden losing to this guy in so many recent polls? I guess the same thing can be said about all the Republican challengers as well. Could the Presidency from 2025-29 be done on house arrest from Mara Lago?
Kemp doesn’t have the authority to pardon. Georgia has a board that makes pardon decisions.
 
As it looks Trump will certainly be guilty in this case the question that should be asked is how does this affect the ‘24 election? Will Trump serve jail time? Will Kemp pardon him? Will Republicans actually nominate him when primaries get here? Finally how is Biden losing to this guy in so many recent polls? I guess the same thing can be said about all the Republican challengers as well. Could the Presidency from 2025-29 be done on house arrest from Mara Lago?
Kemp can’t Pardon him
 
My comparison in 2016 was that democrats disputed state votes in the official congressional count. My reference to alternate electors was to 1960 Nixon v kennedy in the state of Hawaii. In general though, I think their distinction of "alternate electors" vs "faithless electors" is quite flimsy all the same.
 
It is simple to see: the financial and corporate US interests, the true money pulling strings, have finally awoken to the danger of Trump and MAGA and are going to gut him like a fish. I think the Russian ties to MAGA that showed up in the universal desire to defund Ukraine and the then subsequent attack on Israel, Russia and Iran helped pull the strings, on broke the camels back.

It is time to unite.
 
Donald Trump lawyers vs. Donal Trump is a growing club.

Eastman is probably too stubborn to turn.

Giuliani is in way too deep now and just praying for a fatal event before prison.

I agree that Ellis is most eligible for admission to the club.
Not that I am hoping for it, but my guess is Rudy literally is hoping on the icy embrace of death in his bed, or a mental deficiency defense. Eastman is a moron. I thought Powell was a moron, and Cheese Bro, too, but they flipped. Maybe Eastman does, too.
I am surprised Ellis has not flipped. She had a future on Newsmax, but I guess she either doesn't have much that Willis wants, or she is too stupid legally to see that the train is starting to chug it's way out of the station without her.
 
As it looks Trump will certainly be guilty in this case the question that should be asked is how does this affect the ‘24 election? Will Trump serve jail time? Will Kemp pardon him? Will Republicans actually nominate him when primaries get here? Finally how is Biden losing to this guy in so many recent polls? I guess the same thing can be said about all the Republican challengers as well. Could the Presidency from 2025-29 be done on house arrest from Mara Lago?
Dig up polls from 2010. The bulk of them had Obama desperately under water. Polls are meaningless at this stage when you do not have a set opponent, and real ramifications of a vote are not at stake. The best hope for Republicans is that someone like DeSantis or Haley keeps limping along and can be there when Trump has a grabber.
 
I like was Cohen is saying, but he’s a scumbag too.
He is open about being a scum bag, and you can't say he didn't warn people about how alluring it can be to be in Trump's orbit, and how he draws people in to do illegal things for him. In his first book he details how he looks for people who are corruptible (Like him), and starts small with "favors".
 
He is open about being a scum bag, and you can't say he didn't warn people about how alluring it can be to be in Trump's orbit, and how he draws people in to do illegal things for him. In his first book he details how he looks for people who are corruptible (Like him), and starts small with "favors".
Did you buy and read his book?
 
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