If that isn't hyperbole, then either you're not so old, or aren't observant.
Kirk’s Entire Inept and Pussy philosophy encapsulated in :01 before halftime
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Most programs would do the same. As far a nameless fan calling KF a pussy, that tells us all we need to know about you
Wrong. I have. I have never seen anyone as conservative as Kirk but I will look forward to Fleck taking a knee in the last 90 seconds of a half. I will let you know when I see it. Or passing up a Hail Mary at the end of the half.
Then you never watch anybody other than Iowa or you see what you want to see
I gave you an example that should at least somewhat date me. Show me how I am wrong. I gave some examples of very conservative play. Feel free to match those examples with someone else. Don't say Woody or Bo, because they could play smashmouth football all game long with better players. If it makes you feel better and want me to say since 1999, then I can switch to that. Kirk is ridiculously conservative and I, again, don't watch other coaches doing the same thing, repeatedly. His conservativeness keeps shitty teams in games against Iowa that the Hawkeyes should beat the hell out of.
And yet as awful as he is, he is one of the best coaches in big ten history. Wild huh
This is quite the claim. Ferentz is 123-85 in the BIG. For comparative purposes, Urban Meyer was 54-4.
Woody and Bo were more conservative then than Kirk is now. Hayden may have run a trick play every game, but his strategy was conservative by today's standards, especially early in his tenure. His 1981 B1G champion team was managed very conservatively. More recently, maybe you've forgotten Barry Alvarez and Jim Tressel. Maybe you don't watch the SEC. Just sticking to the 21st century, Nick Saban wasn't much different from Kirk until his last few years. Mark Stoops still isn't much different from Kirk.
Conservative play is conservative play, regardless of the quality of players.
Kentucky hasn't scored a td in the last two games, and Saban historically stated they "Will not run a ball-control offense. " I think the game has changed quite a bit from the early 2000s, and maybe this is what keeps Kirk winning. However, looking at the offense that Bert has over at Illinois with less talent, makes me envious as a hawk. Times are changing.
Kentucky's offense hasn't scored a touchdown in eight quarters. Here are the problems
Kentucky's offense hasn't scored a touchdown in back-to-back games. What problems are plaguing the unit? And what are some potential solutions?
www.courier-journal.com
Saban rants against media, new camp rules
Alabama coach Nick Saban went on a rant after a reporter implied that the Crimson Tide are going to run a ball-control offense next season.
It felt good at the time and the backfire is on purpose.
You all should be thanking me.
I saw nothing wrong with the play calling at the end of the half. There WERE 2 pass plays after all. No reason to try a Hail Mary with 1 second left.
It’s the same shit every year. Call it Ferentz Fatigue or whatever. It’s just not entertaining.
Ragnar is a flea on the butt of an elephant and the elephant is about to sit down.
Yeah, ya know, context does matter. Not with the people you're trying to inform though. Winningest, losingest, KF is, or will be, statistically both in the B1G. He is going to be the the record holder for both sides due to longevity. It's not debatable.
Good bye, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
I really don't get the vitriol you're receiving. If others haven't been frustrated to this level at some point recently, I don't get it. We've all had moments like this over the past 3-4 years and anyone saying differently is lying to themselves.
A lot of Iowa fans are funny. They are so petrified of change they will defend the tribe at all costs provided Iowa wins against a shit team. But when Iowa plays an actual quality opponent and gets embarrassed because the Iowa offense is still so god awful, then they will high five me.
I said my piece. I am done venting about the staleness of Iowa football. If this many Kirk fanboys want to thump their chests about their self righteous fandom, so be it. They just better not complain when the rest of the country roasts Iowa for their commitment to being the fake ID of college football the next time Iowa gets run off the field by an opponent worth a shit.
Self-righteous? Psychologists would call that projection. Any fair-minded person would see that the offense is improved this year, but I’m not seeing anyone say it’s good enough at this point. Not even your favorite whipping boy, Kirk. in fact, Kirk himself just said that the team needs more downfield passing.
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Because 26 seasons. How many championships? When was the last one?
Hayden was only conservative against teams he thought were better. I told you that you don’t get to pull Woody and Bo, from the 60s and 70s into the conversation. Nick Saban started opening it up more the older he got. Kirk refuses. I guarantee I watch and have watched as much college football as you have. You call out names of coaches but are not giving examples of them doing ridiculously conservative things. Again, I don’t see them ever not taking a shot at midfield with the last snap of the first half.
Hell, USC was throwing out of their own end zone with under a minute in the half. Having said that, I would do what Kirk would do there to be fair.
Comrade Ragnar vents the frustration felt by many of us in the Hawk fanbase.
It is of course good to see that we can at least run the ball this year.
It is of course good to see that we can at least run the ball this year.
These are his words.
"Until Kirk steps down or is forced out, I’m out. Enjoy the rest of the game and season, fellas. This is boring, lame, sissy ball. GTFO Kirk."
So why is he back posting 36 hours later? I'll give you one guess.
"Until Kirk steps down or is forced out, I’m out. Enjoy the rest of the game and season, fellas. This is boring, lame, sissy ball. GTFO Kirk."
So why is he back posting 36 hours later? I'll give you one guess.
I bet you hate that he will have the most wins in big 10 history. Really sucks to have the top running back in the country. I have Ragnar fatigue.
Paterno comes to mind. That's how Kirk was able to have such a good record against him. Joe had higher rated players, but he also had a very high level of conservative play. KF certainly does maddening things often enough, though.
Ragner and all his dumbass buddies fatigue.
You don't get to tell me what I can and can't do.
In the OSU game you mentioned previously, Tressel had the same strategy as Kirk - play for OT. You're wrong about Hayden early in his career at Iowa. In 1981, for example, he played it conservatively against everyone, relying on his defense and punter to win field position. Hell, the Hawks even kicked off to start both halves in a game or two, choosing to take the wind over receiving.
I mentioned Mark Stoops. If you want to see examples of conservative play, go to the ESPN web site and check out the play-by-play for the recent Kentucky-Georgia game (UGA also played very conservatively) or the 2022 Iowa-UK bowl game. I'm sure you can watch video for both as well. Regarding Alvarez, ESPN has Wisconsin games going back to 2003.
Let's be clear. I'm not offering a defense of Kirk's consistently (and arguably overly) conservative approach. Sometimes I agree with it and sometimes not, and apparently you do the same. I agree that Kirk should open it up more.
Where we disagree is your claim that Kirk is singularly conservative.
Yes, I though about Joe as well. He was extremely conservative in his approach, but loosened up somewhat late in his career regarding the playbook.
KFz is #73 all time winning % in the Big Ten. He certainly gets the longevity aware, only Amos Alonzo Stagg coached more games.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/coaches.html
That's a whole different thing from Kirk's armadillo ball. Hayden called surprise punts a few times when his program was in its early struggles to hopefully gain some field position. It wasn't something he did regularly.
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Most people on here truly think Kirk runs the Dick Tighe Power-I and punts inside the opponents 40 frequently and has never ever tried to put together a 2 minute drive before half if past their own 30.
Then don’t watch,
Then don’t watch, take a walk , go bowling, read a book, whatever.
Your lack of knowledge about football is embarrassing.
Come on man ! Are you and Rags the same person ? So you think you know who the best players are rather than the coaches who see them every day in practice. You have to be kidding, right ?
Read up on Ragnar.
We do NOT want to rile him up.
He conquered Britain!!!
(Disclaimer: I agree with MUCH of what Ragnar says.)
