Kirk The Bar At Iowa

[2D_]

Hayden revolutionized the program, Kirk elevated it to consistent winning. Both important, but Fry comes out on top for me.



I kind of viewed our program in three steps. First, Fry turns us around with a new logo, new attitude, and new culture. Second, Kirk took that culture further and made us one of the most consistent programs in the nation. No one expects us to be a "losing program". Most everyone predicts us with 8 wins or more per year. Most programs, including little debbie, would kill for that.

And finally, our third head coach will hopefully catapult the program to elite status, up there with Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia.

 

[MAXIMUSHAWKEYE]

Evy and it’s not even close.

This is my opinion as well. Too bad he didn't stay the HC and coached into retirement age. Seems there were internal politics where the admin/academic side didn't want Iowa to be known for its FB program.

 

[MAXIMUSHAWKEYE]

Hayden revolutionized the program, Kirk elevated it to consistent winning. Both important, but Fry comes out on top for me.



I kind of viewed our program in three steps. First, Fry turns us around with a new logo, new attitude, and new culture. Second, Kirk took that culture further and made us one of the most consistent programs in the nation. No one expects us to be a "losing program". Most everyone predicts us with 8 wins or more per year. Most programs, including little debbie, would kill for that.

And finally, our third head coach will hopefully catapult the program to elite status, up there with Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia.

Debby had 9-3 records and fired the coach because it wasn't good enough.

 

[83Hawk]

Evy.

Can't argue with 2 Rose Bowl wins, 5 top 10 national rankings, and 1 National Championship.

What he did as AD is irrelevant to this conversation.

 

[BrotherHawkeye]

This is my opinion as well. Too bad he didn't stay the HC and coached into retirement age. Seems there were internal politics where the admin/academic side didn't want Iowa to be known for its FB program.

I’ve read interviews with Evy where he commented at the time that football was changing, going away from single platoon football. Maybe he wasn’t in favor of it, and foresaw the difficulty in recruiting more talent to Iowa City. Don’t really know but his comment suggested that to me. He tried to force Nagel out do he coild return as the head coach. It ended up getting him fired.

 

[pistachio1999]

Still have a fondness for Jerry Burns. Who eventually went on to be Vikings OC from 1968 to 1985. Crazy long tenure. Loved his post game pressers.

 

[BrotherHawkeye]

Still have a fondness for Jerry Burns. Who eventually went on to be Vikings OC from 1968 to 1985. Crazy long tenure. Loved his post game pressers.

He wasn't ready to be the head coach at Iowa. He's also the coach that passed on Gale Sayers, who wanted to come to Iowa. Too busy to meet Gale when he made a campus visit to Iowa City. As they say, the rest is history.

 

[hahkize]

Evy.

Can't argue with 2 Rose Bowl wins, 5 top 10 national rankings, and 1 National Championship.

What he did as AD is irrelevant to this conversation.

Add that Evy coached a total of 9 seasons @ Iowa. Winning record every year but the 1st (1952) and 4th (1955). '55 record of 3-5-1 with the 5 losses ALL being to rated teams #17 and higher. Four of the last 5 seasons, Evy ONLY lost 1 game each year except his next to last ('59).

EVERY one of Evy's teams were rated at some point #12 or higher except his first team in '52. 7 of those 8 were rated #9 or higher and 6 of those were #5 or higher w/ the LAST 5 seasons were rated #3, #3, #2, #5 and #1 at some point. Even Jerry Burns' first squad in '61 was #1 Pre-season.

Evy's teams played Notre Dame EACH season. Lost the 1st year to #3 ND. Iowa (#20) tied #1 ND in Evy's 2nd year! and knocked the Irish from the Nat'l Championship podium. (They ended #2). Iowa (#19) lost again to #4 ND in '54 and in '55 when ND was also #4. Iowa then goes 4-1 in Evy's last 5 years vs the Irish with the only loss a 20-19 game in '59.

I love JH Fry and what he did for Iowa. Bringing the air game to the 3 yds and dust Big10. Amazing!

Then there's this.... Iowa was coming off a string of 5 straight losing seasons, 8 losing yrs in 9, 10 out of 12, 15 of the previous 21. (Similar to Fry?). In Evy's 2nd year, he has Iowa rated in the top 20 and they take down #1 ND @ South Bend and end up rated #9 in the final rankings. From then on, Iowa achieves a ranking of, at least #5 every year except '55!!! Evy produced continued success UNSEEN by Iowa since the turn of the century. ( Coaches: Knipe '99-'02 - 77% wins, Chalmers, '03-'05 - 75%, Jones '16-'23 71% wins. And of course, the lone Ironmen year w/ Kinnick). Fry's success was amazing, but Evy's was monumental. Evy won 65% of his games w/ FEW cupcakes. Fry w/61% and Ferentz is currently @ 62% and they both scheduled several "easy" ones.

Also during Evy's 9 seasons, Iowa's only Non-P2 games were Wyoming in '53, Montana '54, Hawaii '56, Utah State '57 and Air Force in '58 and the Falcons ended the year #6 in AP. Not to mention the games every year w/ the Irish. This was done during the time period when the blue bloods were establishing their pedigrees. Iowa was right there with them and then..... Idk what the politics were at that time, but it's a d*mn shame people didn't know what they had cookin' in Iowa City.

Evashevski's Iowa Record

Forest Evashevski​

Career Record: 11 Years, 63-33-6, .647 Win% (at major schools)
Bowl Record: 2 Games, 2-0, 1.000 Win% (at major schools)

Coaching Record​

Year	School	G	W	L	T	Pct	SRS	SOS	AP Pre	AP High	AP Post	Bowl	Notes
1950	Washington State	9	4	3	2	.556	0.25	0.80
1951	Washington State	10	7	3	0	.700	10.88	3.08		16	18
1952	Iowa	9	2	7	0	.222	1.29	11.17
1953	Iowa	9	5	3	1	.611	18.58	11.36		9	9
1954	Iowa	9	5	4	0	.556	15.86	13.09	11	3
1955	Iowa	9	3	5	1	.389	7.45	8.90	12	12
1956	Iowa	10	9	1	0	.900	19.50	7.90		3	3	Rose Bowl-W
1957	Iowa	9	7	1	1	.833	16.84	5.62	9	3	6
1958	Iowa	10	8	1	1	.850	24.78	12.28	13	2	2	Rose Bowl-W
1959	Iowa	9	5	4	0	.556	15.83	7.50	9	5
1960	Iowa	9	8	1	0	.889	26.51	14.95	15	1	3
11 Yrs	Overall	102	63	33	6	.647	14.34	8.79				2-0
2 Yrs	Washington State	19	11	6	2	.632	5.56	1.94				0-0
9 Yrs	Iowa	83	52	27	4	.651	16.29	10.31				2-0

 

[HawksRule73]

Heck, if we're going in the way back time machine, may as well talk about Howard Jones. Jones was probably the best football coach the university has ever had. Won 20 games in a row between 1920 and 1922. Beat the 1921 Knute Rockne led Fighting Irish who had probably their best ever team under Knute that year and we finished the year as National Champs. Only coach in Iowa history to lead the Hawks to 2 straight undisputed conference titles.

Went to USC because his wife didn't care for Iowa.....where he went on to win 5 Rose Bowls.

 

[pistachio1999]

He wasn't ready to be the head coach at Iowa. He's also the coach that passed on Gale Sayers, who wanted to come to Iowa. Too busy to meet Gale when he made a campus visit to Iowa City. As they say, the rest is history.

 

[BrotherHawkeye]

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And from another Iowa guy. What's with the Iowa men blowing up at press conferences?

 

[MAXIMUSHAWKEYE]

Add that Evy coached a total of 9 seasons @ Iowa. Winning record every year but the 1st (1952) and 4th (1955). '55 record of 3-5-1 with the 5 losses ALL being to rated teams #17 and higher. Four of the last 5 seasons, Evy ONLY lost 1 game each year except his next to last ('59).

EVERY one of Evy's teams were rated at some point #12 or higher except his first team in '52. 7 of those 8 were rated #9 or higher and 6 of those were #5 or higher w/ the LAST 5 seasons were rated #3, #3, #2, #5 and #1 at some point. Even Jerry Burns' first squad in '61 was #1 Pre-season.

Evy's teams played Notre Dame EACH season. Lost the 1st year to #3 ND. Iowa (#20) tied #1 ND in Evy's 2nd year! and knocked the Irish from the Nat'l Championship podium. (They ended #2). Iowa (#19) lost again to #4 ND in '54 and in '55 when ND was also #4. Iowa then goes 4-1 in Evy's last 5 years vs the Irish with the only loss a 20-19 game in '59.

I love JH Fry and what he did for Iowa. Bringing the air game to the 3 yds and dust Big10. Amazing!

Then there's this.... Iowa was coming off a string of 5 straight losing seasons, 8 losing yrs in 9, 10 out of 12, 15 of the previous 21. (Similar to Fry?). In Evy's 2nd year, he has Iowa rated in the top 20 and they take down #1 ND @ South Bend and end up rated #9 in the final rankings. From then on, Iowa achieves a ranking of, at least #5 every year except '55!!! Evy produced continued success UNSEEN by Iowa since the turn of the century. ( Coaches: Knipe '99-'02 - 77% wins, Chalmers, '03-'05 - 75%, Jones '16-'23 71% wins. And of course, the lone Ironmen year w/ Kinnick). Fry's success was amazing, but Evy's was monumental. Evy won 65% of his games w/ FEW cupcakes. Fry w/61% and Ferentz is currently @ 62% and they both scheduled several "easy" ones.

Also during Evy's 9 seasons, Iowa's only Non-P2 games were Wyoming in '53, Montana '54, Hawaii '56, Utah State '57 and Air Force in '58 and the Falcons ended the year #6 in AP. Not to mention the games every year w/ the Irish. This was done during the time period when the blue bloods were establishing their pedigrees. Iowa was right there with them and then..... Idk what the politics were at that time, but it's a d*mn shame people didn't know what they had cookin' in Iowa City.

Evashevski's Iowa Record

Forest Evashevski​

Career Record: 11 Years, 63-33-6, .647 Win% (at major schools)
Bowl Record: 2 Games, 2-0, 1.000 Win% (at major schools)

Coaching Record​

Year	School	G	W	L	T	Pct	SRS	SOS	AP Pre	AP High	AP Post	Bowl	Notes
1950	Washington State	9	4	3	2	.556	0.25	0.80
1951	Washington State	10	7	3	0	.700	10.88	3.08		16	18
1952	Iowa	9	2	7	0	.222	1.29	11.17
1953	Iowa	9	5	3	1	.611	18.58	11.36		9	9
1954	Iowa	9	5	4	0	.556	15.86	13.09	11	3
1955	Iowa	9	3	5	1	.389	7.45	8.90	12	12
1956	Iowa	10	9	1	0	.900	19.50	7.90		3	3	Rose Bowl-W
1957	Iowa	9	7	1	1	.833	16.84	5.62	9	3	6
1958	Iowa	10	8	1	1	.850	24.78	12.28	13	2	2	Rose Bowl-W
1959	Iowa	9	5	4	0	.556	15.83	7.50	9	5
1960	Iowa	9	8	1	0	.889	26.51	14.95	15	1	3
11 Yrs	Overall	102	63	33	6	.647	14.34	8.79				2-0
2 Yrs	Washington State	19	11	6	2	.632	5.56	1.94				0-0
9 Yrs	Iowa	83	52	27	4	.651	16.29	10.31				2-0

Yeah, this was before the Big dynasties. Hard to beleive how good Minnie was back in the day. All I can remember watching on TV was Okie,Nebby,Bama,Irish,USC when I was a kid.

 

[Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo]

This is all well and good.

But more importantly, who wants to jump in and invest in Doodle's new Iowa City drinking establishment concept....Kirk: The Bar.

 

[SolarHawk]

Fry slight edge over Kirk. Evy won it all, but I don’t think his body of work exceeds either.

 

[hahkize]

This is all well and good.

But more importantly, who wants to jump in and invest in Doodle's new Iowa City drinking establishment concept....Kirk: The Bar.

Did I hear you say "Drinks on the House" after every Iowa win???

 

[Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo]

Did I hear you say "Drinks on the House" after every Iowa win???

You misunderstood. It was "Drinks at your house" after every Iowa win. 😎

 

[hahkize]

Come On-A My House​

 

[luvmyhawks]

You misunderstood. It was "Drinks at your house" after every Iowa win. 😎

I think you still misunderstood. It’s “drinks at your mom’s house. But get there early, the line is long.”

 

[Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo]

I think you still misunderstood. It’s “drinks at your mom’s house. But get there early, the line is long.”

The line's not THAT long.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

This is all well and good.

But more importantly, who wants to jump in and invest in Doodle's new Iowa City drinking establishment concept....Kirk: The Bar.

Most boring drinks and crowd in pub history....but the bouncers are absolutely top-notch.

 

[PlutoDroid]

This is all well and good.

But more importantly, who wants to jump in and invest in Doodle's new Iowa City drinking establishment concept....Kirk: The Bar.

I prefer Friday Night Terrors with Kirk telling scary stories of Petras seeing ghosts whenever he went to throw a pass. Or how some phantom calls cost them a B1G Title in '09. He better have some good stuff at reasonable prices though.

 

[BlackNGoldWings]

Would be if he didn't try destroying it after he quit as coach.

Howard Jones

 

[Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo]

Most boring drinks and crowd in pub history....but the bouncers are absolutely top-notch.

Only available dessert......vanilla ice cream. 😁

 

[pistachio1999]

This is all well and good.

But more importantly, who wants to jump in and invest in Doodle's new Iowa City drinking establishment concept....Kirk: The Bar.

Is it all Mich Ultra type drinks?

One brew would have to be called "That's football".

 

[shrinkhawk]

Skimming forum titles and I thought this thread was a story about Kirk being at the bar in Iowa. That was disappointing.

what would be Kirk:The Bar's signature drink?

Only available dessert......vanilla ice cream. 😁

Kirk: the BAR signature drink: "Captain n KOK"

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Hayden was John Wayne. Whenever I traveled back then when I told people where I was from almost always the first comment was about Hayden Fry.

Was second comment about John Wayne from just up the road?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Did anyone else read the thread title and think there was a new bar opening in Iowa City named Kirk (the Bar)?...............